Deleting comments -- ResMod Accountability

While trying to follow the thread Linden Lab banned Anshe Chung, it was moved from Land and the Economy to Second Life Answers by Steve Steed. A post was made by Steve and there it remained, until it was moved to the proper forum 'Notices and Well Wishes' where many threads similar to that one have been placed in the past. It was moved there by Kelly Linden.

At this time, for whatever reason, Steve Steed decided to delete his post discussing the moving of the thread where later when Kelly, deciding he did not wish to be involved with moderation of threads tonight, moved it back to Second Life Answers. At that time he said 'Because someone moved it' -- because, lo and behold, Steve's post was not there to be found. However, ResMods and other moderators are capable of seeing that the post was indeed made and deleted at whatever time and they can click to view it.

So ignoring the fact that the thread is now in a forum that an actual Linden as well as others felt it belonged in instead of a forum a *Resident* felt it belonged in, they've also deleted their post leaving not a trace of it being written at all.

If LL is going to bother with this program, behavior like this should not be encouraged to ResMods. If they make a decision to close, move or otherwise disrupt the thread, they're 'on the clock' and their processes should be just as transparent as they are with Lindens, even if their decisions are later overturned.

Couldn't agree more. It was a questionable decision to move it in the first place and an even wussier one to delete the explanation for that move. Just shouldn't be how the process works.

It didn't belong in "Notices and Well Wishes" at ALL. Oh wait - you are thinking, "Notice to residents that Anshe Chung will be out of pocket for the unforseeable future."

Well, I didn't grasp that as the intent of her post in the first place. Given her intent, it was put in the right forum in the first place.

coco

I'm pointing at the sky and you're looking at my hand.

Anyway, the second exact copy of that thread got put in Notices as well by another ResMod, just like a Linden put it there. Has to do with the fact it's an announcement but not quite an ad, yada, yada. That's the closest thing it fits into. But that's not really the point of why this thread is here...

Should ResMods delete comments of what they've done to a thread thus making it look like they had no part in what has been done at all if something changed? I don't think they should.

Well pardon me for trying to understand! Or for making some comments that perhaps you hadn't decided I could make.

Good God. I'll be glad when these forums just burn up to a crisp. You can't even have a conversation in them.

And to add to what I have been trying to understand, I was also unaware that they had actually moved TWO such threads.

As for what you said, yes, I agree that resmods shouldn't delete their comments. Happy?

coco

I thought they had rules against conversations here.

Shut up.




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Stuck here....forever

Busted!

You know, this is crazed.

I just looked at this thread I'd looked at earlier where this girl was all upset over the April Fool's joke about the taxes.

Now it's closed, with several parts of the TOS being cited as to why it was closed (at least for the time being).

I dunno. To me, all the reasons being given are losing their power, because they are all given all the time for all kinds of things. And in that thread, I'm not really sure how ANY of those reasons applied to that basically harmless thread.

I agree with whoever said earlier somewhere that it would be better to err on the side of caution rather than jump in to control every little thing.

I realize this perhaps doesn't belong in this particular thread, but not every one of my little musings is worthy of a thread all its own (and in fact, hardly any ever are), so I tend to put them in wherever a similar conversation is going on.

I think somebody should just wake me when all this nuttiness is over.

coco

ResMod accountability is actually a joke.

Think about it.

Screw it up and you just get "replaced" in two weeks when they roll in new ResMods. Do a good job (which is nigh on impossible IMHO) and you might get to be a ResMod again sometimes - but no one will really understand that that is why you get to do it again --- they'll generally assume that either you are FIC/favored, or you were just too stupid and volunteered for a thankless job yet again (or were the only one who volunteered who hasn't really f*'d up so badly you needed to be replaced).

So... there is no such thing as accountability. The Lindens move, ignore and close threads on their own whims. They overrule ResMod decisions on an irregular and apparently arbitrary basis.

And apparently there is no set of specific rules to actually hold ResMods accountable for enforcing anything anyway.

Accountability of or by ResMods? ROFLMAO.

Sorry.. I forgot. It IS April Fools Day.

I will make it crystal clear that the reasons for moving a thread should not be deleted. It's important to leave them there for reasons of transparency, as noted earlier, in order to facilitate better communication. As in, "Yes, we know the thread was moved, and here's WHY."

Threads do not move themselves.

Even if an action was incorrect, the benefit is much learning can take place if the error is left in plain view. There is no shame in that. I've made mistakes, I've been in some of those situations myself, and of course, posted afterwards to say what I learned--and again, my reasons WHY.

I will repeatedly be encouraging this to ResMods; and beyond words, I am sure further actions will happen to reinforce this into the collective forum consciousness.

Yes that post got Deleted after it got moved by a Linden. It got Deleted do to I Thought I made a error in moving it to the forum I moved it to and I did not what to confus ppl with a post that says I was moving it to SL Life Answers do to it was now not in SL Life Answers. I do see it got moved back to SL Life Answers by a Linden.
So from now on I will not delete and let it go the ay it is.
It is for the best.

I am very Sorry.


Have a very good day.

Steve

Awesome, thank you, Torley and thank you Steve for speaking up as well.

Glad to see the ResMod program is working so well.

So you're all for editing your reason for closing posts then?