| 
                     Drake Bacon 
                    Linux is Furry 
                    
                    Join date: 13 Jul 2005 
                    
                    Posts: 443 
                 | 
                
                    
                    
                    
                    
                        
                         08-07-2007 08:11 
                        Tofu, have you been following the JIRA lately?  More specificaly bugs VWR-1516 and VWR-210.  VWR-1516 has some info from Vivox saying "We're working on Linux, but timing is up to the Lindens."
  If I remember correctly, you said you were waiting on Vivox to give you the binary daemon.  Alot of us think "As soon as they give it to us, we'll push it out to you."
  What's the deal?  You have it, or is Vivox still delaying? 
                        
                            _____________________ 
                            Drake Bacon/Drake Winger Home: Custom AMD X2 (65nm) 5000+, 4 Gig RAM, Gentoo amd64, NVidia GeForce 8600GT PCIe Mobile: Dell Inspiron E1505 (Core Duo 1.6GHz, 1 gig RAM, Gentoo x86, NVidia GeForce Go 7300 PCIe) Backup:  iMac (Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 4 gig RAM, ATI Radeon HD 2400, MacOS X Leopard) Don't Ask: Asus EeePC 900A (Atom 1.6Ghz, 1 gig RAM, Intel graphics, Gentoo x86) 
                         
                    
                 | 
            
        
            
                | 
                     Tofu Linden 
                    Linden Lab Employee 
                    
                    Join date: 29 Aug 2006 
                    
                    Posts: 471 
                 | 
                
                    
                    
                    
                    
                        
                         08-10-2007 08:56 
                        We don't have it yet - with the recent bugfixing run-up to voice launch and adjusting for subsequent feedback everyone's time has been crushed, but our stance has not changed so there's nothing new to add; we want this to happen and have no reason to doubt that it will. 
                        
                    
                 | 
            
        
            
                | 
                     Tofu Linden 
                    Linden Lab Employee 
                    
                    Join date: 29 Aug 2006 
                    
                    Posts: 471 
                 | 
                
                    
                    
                    
                    
                        
                         08-10-2007 09:33 
                        From: Drake Bacon Alot of us think "As soon as they give it to us, we'll push it out to you." It's not quite that simple given that a deliverable would still have to pass internal QA before we ship it to residents, and realistically I can't imagine that a first-drop is going to be without issues - but essentially this is still correct.  
                        
                    
                 | 
            
        
            
                | 
                     Corax Homewood 
                    Linux Bird 
                    
                    Join date: 10 Mar 2007 
                    
                    Posts: 59 
                 | 
                
                    
                    
                    
                    
                        
                         08-11-2007 22:55 
                        But isn't this the very reason why we like to use open source solutions?  Because with open source, you don't have to wait for someone to provide the solution, you can move ahead and work it out yourself if you need to.   Even if LL developers are too busy, the community could be working on it.  We'd have something by now.  Which is why it makes no sense that we're waiting on Vivox.  Isn't there any open solution that could be used instead?  This is very frustrating. 
                        
                    
                 | 
            
        
            
                | 
                     Osgeld Barmy 
                    Registered User 
                    
                    Join date: 22 Mar 2005 
                    
                    Posts: 3,336 
                 | 
                
                    
                    
                    
                    
                        
                         08-12-2007 00:20 
                        From: Tofu Linden It's not quite that simple given that a deliverable would still have to pass internal QA before we ship it to residents, and realistically I can't imagine that a first-drop is going to be without issues - but essentially this is still correct. the other lindens have no issues what so ever passing off never or barley tested client software, whereas the linux client would be the one place i would expect it since  A its friggin linux, you have to be a developer to get it to work half the time and  B its always dragging behind now i know theres the open client source floating around out there, but its not the linux client and it seems silly to redo all the fixes that are currently in place for this OS what are the possibility's of getting a copy of "where your at now with the linux client" for ppl to tinker with ps: tofu, btw man linden labs never releases anything the first time without issues, were accustom to it    
                        
                    
                 | 
            
        
            
                | 
                     Drake Bacon 
                    Linux is Furry 
                    
                    Join date: 13 Jul 2005 
                    
                    Posts: 443 
                 | 
                
                    
                    
                    
                    
                        
                         08-12-2007 18:36 
                        From: Osgeld Barmy ps: tofu, btw man linden labs never releases anything the first time without issues, were accustom to it   QA only goes so far, and there will always be bugs afterwards because of how badly variable the hardware is.  
                        
                            _____________________ 
                            Drake Bacon/Drake Winger Home: Custom AMD X2 (65nm) 5000+, 4 Gig RAM, Gentoo amd64, NVidia GeForce 8600GT PCIe Mobile: Dell Inspiron E1505 (Core Duo 1.6GHz, 1 gig RAM, Gentoo x86, NVidia GeForce Go 7300 PCIe) Backup:  iMac (Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 4 gig RAM, ATI Radeon HD 2400, MacOS X Leopard) Don't Ask: Asus EeePC 900A (Atom 1.6Ghz, 1 gig RAM, Intel graphics, Gentoo x86) 
                         
                    
                 | 
            
        
            
                | 
                     Osgeld Barmy 
                    Registered User 
                    
                    Join date: 22 Mar 2005 
                    
                    Posts: 3,336 
                 | 
                
                    
                    
                    
                    
                        
                         08-13-2007 00:02 
                        From: Drake Bacon QA only goes so far, and there will always be bugs afterwards because of how badly variable the hardware is. yea its true altho alot of game/entertainment developers manage to squash this problem within a few months of new hardware being released, most of their bugs have to do with cheats around doors and such  
                        
                    
                 |