Mobility 7500

Forum Members -

I would like to be able to play SL on my ATI Mobility 7500 based laptop. I do have direct rendering enabled and it seems to be working fine. A glxinfo | grep render indicated that direct rendering is enabled. DRI is provided by the open source 'radeon' driver. When I try to start the game I get the errors that are listed below. From reading the forum it seems that quite a few people are having similar issues, but after trying to implement some of the suggestions that have worked for others I am still getting the same results. So I guess that my question boils down to this, is there a way to get SL working in linux on Mobility 7500 video card? Will I have better results if I use Wine?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions that you may have.
Rainmak


2006-03-11T13:30:06Z WARNING: OSMessageBox: Window creation error
2006-03-11T13:30:06Z INFO: Unloading all GL symbols...
2006-03-11T13:30:06Z WARNING: LLWindowManager::create() : Error creating window.
2006-03-11T13:30:06Z WARNING: Unable to create window, be sure screen is set at 32-bit color in Control Panels->Display->Settings
2006-03-11T13:30:06Z INFO: remove_marker_file()

Look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
or /etc/X11/XF86Config

for the line DefaultDepth and make sure it is set to 24 (24 bit = 32 bit in some kind of confusing way.. perhaps someone could explain this to me?).. If it is set lower, it will not work.

Theora -

I just checked my Xorg.conf file and my depth is currently set to 24. Do you have any other suggestions?

Thanks,
James

How did you uncompress the file? use tar xzf on the command line rather than automated tools, as lots of people have had trouble with the file not having all directories correctly populated when auto-uncompressing.

Theora -

Yes I downloaded the tarball, and then expanded it using tar -zxvf. I have actually tried deleting my ~/secondlife directory and re-expanding the tarball, but stil get the same error.

Anything else? I'm pretty sure it is a problem with the X.org config or driver, I just can't figure out what it is.

Thanks,
James

What does xdpyinfo report for screen#0?
For me it's something like:
screen #0:
print screen: no
dimensions: 1600x1200 pixels (363x272 millimeters)
resolution: 112x112 dots per inch
depths (7): 24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
root window id: 0x116
depth of root window: 24 planes
number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1
default colormap: 0x20
default number of colormap cells: 256
preallocated pixels: black 0, white 16777215
options: backing-store NO, save-unders NO
largest cursor: 64x64
current input event mask: 0xfa4031

Of course the most important bit of info right now is "depth of root window"

Also, are you 100% sure OpenGL is working properly: do other 3D accelerated games work OK? What fps do you get with glxgears? Could we have a bit more of the output of the failed startup?

It seems like ATI's mobility 7500 is unsupported:

http://secondlife.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=System+Requirements

It's not very nice though that this is stated only in the tiki and not the main system requirements page:

http://secondlife.com/corporate/sysreqs.php

Shouldn't this two resources be unified?
If someone manages to make it work, please post (of course!)

Here in the forums, I've read of people running SL on Linux in hardware that is supposedly unsupported (for the windows version at least)

Theora, I am getting ~1000 fps with glxgears. Below is the full output of from when I try to run secondlife:

2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z WARNING: LLDir_Linux not fully implemented!
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Checking marker file for lock...
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Marker file isn't locked.
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Checking marker file for lock...
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Marker file created.
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Removing message.log
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Exiting init_marker_file().
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Opening debug file /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/logs/debug_info.log
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Second Life version 1.8.4
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Local time: 2006-03-12T14:15:19 EST
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: CPU info:
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 2.20GHz stepping : 7 cpu MHz : 2193.138 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips : 4391.97
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Memory info:
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z MemTotal: 515156 kB MemFree: 252592 kB Buffers: 9872 kB Cached: 147856 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 155500 kB Inactive: 82660 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree: 0 kB LowTotal: 515156 kB LowFree: 252592 kB SwapTotal: 522072 kB SwapFree: 522072 kB Dirty: 76 kB Writeback: 0 kB Mapped: 144540 kB Slab: 12636 kB CommitLimit: 779648 kB Committed_AS: 138692 kB PageTables: 1100 kB VmallocTotal: 516056 kB VmallocUsed: 4808 kB VmallocChunk: 510420 kB
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: OS info: Linux 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 #4 PREEMPT Fri Mar 10 22:52:06 EST 2006 i686
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Loading feature tables.
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Using configuration file /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/user_settings/settings.ini
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: LLControlGroup::loadFromFile unable to open.
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: LLControlGroup::loadFromFile unable to open.
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Loading art table from viewerart.ini
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Loading base colors from colors_base.ini
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Loading user colors from colors.ini
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Default vfs data file not present, found /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/cache/.
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Old salt: 1
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z WARNING: Bad or missing vfx index file /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/cache/index.db2.x.1
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z WARNING: Removing old vfs data file /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/cache/.
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Renaming /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/cache/. to /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/cache/data.db2.x.175863119
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Renaming /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/cache/index.db2.x.1 to /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/cache/index.db2.x.175863119
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Pre-sized VFS data file to 524288000 bytes
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: VFS: Using index file /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/cache/index.db2.x.175863119 and data file /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/SecondLife/cache/data.db2.x.175863119
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: VFS: Using index file /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/app_settings/static_index.db2 and data file /home/jcolby/SecondLife_1_8_4_7/app_settings/static_data.db2
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Initializing window...
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: createContext: creating window 800x600x32
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: createContext: window creation failure. SDL: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Unloading all GL symbols...
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z WARNING: OSMessageBox: Window creation error
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: Unloading all GL symbols...
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z WARNING: LLWindowManager::create() : Error creating window.
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z WARNING: Unable to create window, be sure screen is set at 32-bit color in Control Panels->Display->Settings
2006-03-12T19:15:19Z INFO: remove_marker_file()

furahivszuri Zeluco -

My xdpyinfo shows that my depth of root window is set to 16. How can I change this? Is it a setting in my Xorg.conf file? My xdpyinfo is below:

screen #0:
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (292x212 millimeters)
resolution: 89x92 dots per inch
depths (7): 16, 1, 4, 8, 15, 24, 32
root window id: 0x48
depth of root window: 16 planes
number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1
default colormap: 0x20
default number of colormap cells: 64
preallocated pixels: black 0, white 65535
options: backing-store NO, save-unders NO
largest cursor: 64x64

All -

Thanks for all of your help so far. I just wanted to post another message saying that the game does run in windows on the same laptop. I'm not really sure if that means anything though.

Thank for everything,
James

post your xorg.conf file, and I will try to say if I can see something wrong with it. Here is the relevant excerpt from mine:

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "geforce"
Monitor "monitor"
DefaultDepth 24

# Subsection "Display"
# Depth 8
# Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
# ViewPort 0 0
# EndSubsection
# Subsection "Display"
# Depth 16
# Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
# ViewPort 0 0
# EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

You see I have commented out every depth except for 24. This is not really necessary, but it means that if it cannot start at depth 24, it fails instead of trying 16 etc.

Also I am using an nvidia card and I know that ATI and linux is often more problematic, but I am sure you will get there eventually.

Could I also point out that the above error message is exactly the same as the one that people are getting who have not uncompressed the directory properly. Do you have read/write permissions to the full secondlife directory? Did you uncompress the file with tar xzf as the same user (not root) that you are using to try to run the program?