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Ubuntu 7.10 & SL 1.18.4.3 Issues

Atheist Newchurch
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Join date: 20 Feb 2006
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11-07-2007 18:31
General observations.

Are movies supposed to play again? Doesn't with Gutsy. It does play fine outside SL client, so Gstreamer is working.

Sound quality went down. It pops now. I think this is a Gutsy and ALSA issue.
Update: SL is using OSS. Forcing ALSA use results in no sound. Installing esound and starting esd fixes sound.

Between last SL 1.18.4.2 Test version and 1.18.4.3 graphic performance dropped down again.
Yuukie Onmura
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Join date: 3 Jan 2007
Posts: 145
11-07-2007 23:07
From: Atheist Newchurch
Sound quality went down. It pops now. I think this is a Gutsy and ALSA issue.
Update: SL is using OSS. Forcing ALSA use results in no sound. Installing esound and starting esd fixes sound.



that has been the case since... ages?
yevka Laws
Commander Eva "Yevka" Law
Join date: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 32
Ubuntu Studio SL and the 18.4.3 client
11-09-2007 05:04
Totally unstable.

The studio add in deals with the audio issues, but the thing is dumping crash dumps all over the place.

Staying with the previous version. It wasn't easy to fly or walk with it, but at least it doesn't dump me three times every 15 minutes.

:-(
Hades Zenovka
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Join date: 15 Jun 2007
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With Ubuntu 7.10 and 1.18.4.3 linux frozen
11-09-2007 05:28
I had the same problem with 1.18.3.x... with 1.18.2.x runs fine.

Screen turns off and I only can turn off laptop.
Ceemore Paine
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Join date: 23 Jun 2007
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11-09-2007 05:54
Since yesterdays restart I am crashing every 15 min with both the new 4.3 release and even when I went back to 3.5. This is happening on two different machines. I agree, totally unstable at this point and pretty much unplayable.
Atheist Newchurch
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Join date: 20 Feb 2006
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11-09-2007 17:11
I guess I'm a little disappointed this time around. It seemed to be working pretty well for me lately, so it raised my exceptions.
Studley Raymaker
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Join date: 1 Aug 2007
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gutsy and sl
11-10-2007 07:48
sl worked fine with fiesty with the exception of voice ive had nothing but trouble with gutsy
Abel Undercity
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Join date: 19 Aug 2006
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11-10-2007 09:19
Streaming video seems to work fine for me in Gutsy, but I'm experiencing the same crashing problem of late. I'm thinking it's not so much to do with Gutsy so much as it is to do with the client and some obscure change made during the last SL restart.
Zoe Compton
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11-10-2007 12:11
Hm. I'm using Gutsy as well, and just downloaded the latest SL cilent (4_3). My experience is that it's actually more stable than the previous version I was running (3_5 -- yes, I know I missed a couple :P), and there's less lag. Streaming audio works now. I haven't tried streaming video yet, mostly because I don't know yet where to find any.
Fluf Fredriksson
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11-10-2007 12:13
/me nods and hates to agree but ...

Am using a fairly well kept up to date Debian testing here, and I seem to get quite a few library errors / signal faults these days. I did try compiling the source with my own up to date headers but not only does it not seem to help much, it doesn't report the crashes to SL (the way I built it anyway).

I get the feeling it might be connected to whatever weird and wonderful version of Linux they are compiling SL on. From the logs it's pretty obvious SL isn't being compiled on a very up to date system:
INFO: ll_try_gtk_init: - Compiled against GTK version 2.4.14
INFO: ll_try_gtk_init: - Running against GTK version 2.12.1
INFO: createContext: Compiled against SDL 1.2.5
INFO: createContext: Running against SDL 1.2.12

More recently SL has started using the c-ares libraries as well. I don't know enough about it for an informed comment, but it does seem more Linux users are reporting crashes since around that time, and I know c-ares isn't a pre-packaged debian installation. (Could be a coincidence...)

If the dear Linden's could either try the code on a more current version, or publish what versions of the relevant libraries they are compiling against, it might help a tad. Maybe. Not that I particularly want to go downgrading various libraries I have installed.
Atheist Newchurch
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11-10-2007 16:36
Video started working today. Go figure.
Nerek Skall
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Works for me - gutsy, Intel embedded GMA X3100
11-10-2007 18:18
I had no expectation this would work at all, given that the requirements are hot nvidia or ati cards. But it is working just fine for me on a System 76 "darter 2" with Intel embedded GMA X3100 running gutsy. I may not know all the things to try, but seems fine so far....
Atheist Newchurch
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11-11-2007 16:52
Ubuntu Gutsy

Okay, I'm trying to figure this out via this thread.

ESD running = SL client not staring 1/2 the time, but when it does I have smooth audio, and video works.

ESD not running = Sound is choppy and video no longer works. In Feisty sound was fine and video worked for me (except for video support was temporarily removed last version).
Fluf Fredriksson
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11-12-2007 02:17
From: Atheist Newchurch
ESD running = SL client not staring 1/2 the time, but when it does I have smooth audio, and video works.

ESD not running = Sound is choppy and video no longer works. In Feisty sound was fine and video worked for me (except for video support was temporarily removed last version).

In the first part, it sounds like ESD isn't getting control of the sound system some of the time. Since I don't know what your running normally, I'm not sure I can help much. In KDE you can reduce the time it hogs the sound system to zero seconds in the control panel which might help.

The second part sounds like you need to check which g-streamer plug-ins you have installed and check your alsa or OSS (?) configuration is using the right duplex, has a long enough sound buffer or is converting to the right frequency for your sound card.
Morgaine Dinova
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No video on 64-bit because no 32-bit gstreamer libs supplied
11-12-2007 07:08
From: Atheist Newchurch
Video started working today. Go figure.
Not on 64-bit machines, it didn't.

The same problem still exists in 1.18.4.3 as in the last release of the Linux alpha client, namely that the download package does not include 32-bit gstreamer libraries and therefore the client does not have gstreamer functionality when run on a 64-bit Linux under 32-bit emulation. A 64-bit Linux has only 64-bit native gstreamer libraries installed, and since there is no such thing as an ia32 emulation version of gstreamer in any distro, our 32-bit alpha client is simply not able to load the 3 required gstreamer libs.

This problem has been pointed out in numerous other related threads, but unless I've missed it, there is still no comment about the issue from Linden devs. I was expecting the 3 libraries to appear in the 1.18.4.3 download, given that video streaming had been acknowledged as not working in 1.18.3.5, but no such luck.

64-bit users *really* need those 32-bit gstreamer libs. Gstreamer is great, but its use without supplying the necessary libraries has for the first time placed 64-bit users at a disadvantage versus 32-bit users.

Of course, even nicer would be a proper native 64-bit release. :) However, in the interim, at least supply us with the libs that will make video streaming work under 32-bit emulation. Please. ;)

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Wolfpaw Milo
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Join date: 1 Nov 2007
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11-13-2007 04:13
Uhhhm I dont know where the problems are....Compiz, SL, Amarok, Pidgin and FIrefox are running stable together without any sound or grafical issues....and I am running Ubuntu Studio 7.10.

For me it works actually pretty fine. I just had to deactivate esd in the sl-script.

I am using as soundcard a Creative Audigy 2 ZS and have absolutely no problems =)
Fluf Fredriksson
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11-14-2007 01:57
Ah ha. Upgraded to Nvidia's 100.14.19 driver the other day, and it does seem to be more stable now. Or is saying that tempting fate?
Bjarne Halberd
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11-27-2007 13:00
I dont even have sound at all using latest client on 7.10, even though the console output tells me that alsa was properly initialized.
I really hope there is a solution to this problems soon...