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Paul Matterhorn

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Join date: 8 Nov 2006

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03-11-2007 14:24

Hi,

I'm trying to run Second Life on a Thinkpad T60, with Ubuntu 6.10, and a Intel 945GM graphics adapter. I know that the videocard is not really great, but I would like to run it on this machine. I can log-in, but it will crash when I enter the world after a few seconds or so, when rendering the world.

Does anyone know / have of a solution for this?

Thanks,
Paul Matterhorn

Paul Matterhorn

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Solution found

03-11-2007 15:15

Ok,

found the solution in LL_GL_BLACKLIST, and then disabling J. That gives me at least a workable Second Life. Seems a lot slower though than on Windows on the same machine.

Drake Bacon

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Join date: 13 Jul 2005

Posts: 443

03-14-2007 03:32

It's the Intel graphics card in your laptop. Intel's kinda slacking with the 3D performance. Hopefully they'll jack it back up.

I doubt you can swap the card out for a better one like on the Dell Inspiron E1505.

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Natality Hax

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Join date: 11 Feb 2007

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i also have I945GM problems

03-14-2007 06:37

I've got i945GM too. I get to run around in sl for approximately 0-1 minutes before not only sl crashes, but i get stuck in black X windows and have to ssh in to reboot the machine.

running xorg7.1 on linuxfromscratch.org

i get some kind of error code 11<?> in the logfile -- don't know what that's all about.

anyone have a clue?

Tofu Linden

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Join date: 29 Aug 2006

Posts: 471

03-14-2007 06:44

A near-future update (though probably not this week's) will disable this problematic GL extension by default to avoid the fatalities with Intel 915/945 chipset users. (That also disables shiny by default, but people read the client's README file, right, so they'll know how to turn it on again...

)

During the beta phase we'll assemble a proper Linux GL blacklist so that 'everyone' gets the best set of features according to their card/drivers, instead of this lowest common denominator by default.

Natality Hax

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03-15-2007 04:32

LL_GL_BLACKLIST=j

it works!

Tofu Linden

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03-15-2007 04:41

Cool... that does make me feel a lot better about making that option the default.

Lolabella Despres

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Join date: 29 Apr 2007

Posts: 9

Novice Here! Need help!

01-04-2008 14:35

From: Paul Matterhorn

Ok,

found the solution in LL_GL_BLACKLIST, and then disabling J. That gives me at least a workable Second Life. Seems a lot slower though than on Windows on the same machine.

_________________________

What exactly do you need to do? If anyone has step by step I would appreciate it!

Jy Blackthorne

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Join date: 20 Apr 2007

Posts: 3

Ll_gl_blacklist

01-08-2008 18:10

Edit the secondlife file (the one you click to run it).
Right-click the secondlife launch file & open with whatever editor you like, & change the line '#export LL_GL_BLACKLIST=abcd....' to 'export LL_GL_BLACKLIST=j'

Lolabella Despres

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Join date: 29 Apr 2007

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Thank you JY for your post!

01-09-2008 06:16

Tried to do what you said and to no avail

I found that the start up script is a .dll extension, which also noted that the name ext. .exe was changed to .dll it is an icon that is clicked on to start SL, and although I was able to paste the information onto notepad, it was unreadable, even attempted to change the font as well. When I right click on the icon to start SL, the only options that come up are: OPEN, Run as... Scan with AVG, Add to archive..., Add to "SecondLife.rar", Compress and email...,Compress to "SecondLife.rar" and email, Pin to Start menu, Sent To, Cut, Copy, Create Shortcut, Delete, Rename, Properties. No "open with" option.
I have sent notecards out to my friends hoping they can also assist and/or shed some light on this. I dropped you one as well. Here are the specs on the T61:
6465CTO CTO THINKPAD T61 WIDESCREEN-1Y

42V8191 SBBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO T7500

46P4166 VBB MICROSOFT WINXP PROFESSION

42V8376 SBB MS WIN XP PROF.US ENG.

42V8287 SBB 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT

42X0817 SBB INT GMAX3100 GM965W

41W2063 VBB 2GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 2DIMM

42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH

42V8297 SBB UN(TRCKP TOUCHPAD)FINGERRE

42V8169 SBB 100GB HDD,7200RPM

42V8171 SBB CD-RW/DVD-R24X24X24X8XUB-S

42X0806 VBB PC CARDSLOT SM CARDSLOT

41W1501 SBB INTELPRO/WL3945ABGUSCNLAAP

62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN

39T4822 VBB WWAN

42V9334 SBB WAN:CINGULAR

39T6651 SBB 9 CELL LI-ION BATTERY

41W1787 SBB CPK NORTH AMERICA

42V8302 SBB LANGPACK US ENGLISH

42X1233 SBB NEWINTELLAB_DUALCORE/CEDUO

42V9665 SBB FCC, LABEL

42X1482 SBB BLUETOOTH W/ ANTENNA

42X1483 SBB BLUETOOTH SCREW

42X1996 SBB UNSELECTED FEATURE ATTCH

39T6440 SBB 56K V.92 DESIGNED MODEM

42V8678 SBB CINGULAR OPTION

42V8656 SBB CL.PLATE T61WL BT WWAN

41W1749 SBB GEO LABEL US WLAN BT

41W2300 SBB LOGO PLATE

42X0826 SBB INT WWAN ANT:15.4 "VOD/CIN

93P7250 SBB THINKPAD LOGOPLATET-SERIES

42X0838 SBB INTEL GMA960W/WWAN,W/AMT

42V8229 SBB MS LABEL (XP)

42X0884 SBB MT 6465 SYSTEM LABEL

42X0850 SBB MECH MISC PARTS

42W7002 SBB FCC-ID/LABEL FOR WWAN

42V8601 SBB NO UWB ANTENNA

42V8238 SBB ODD SW CD-RW/DVD-ROMCOMBO

42X0996 SBB PC CARD SLOT SMART CSLOT

42V8251 SBB SIM CARD VOD

42V8612 SBB ST LCD COVER/BEZEL 15.4"

42V8300 SBB 1GB PC2-5300 DDR2 667MHZ

42T6638 SBB PACK. US, 15.4"

41C9167 THKPLUS TP 2YR IOR 9X5 NBD
Mfg part #: 41C9167

40Y9135 THINKPLUS TS AND CS

WiLLuMPJuH Gausman

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Posts: 69

01-09-2008 06:36

From: Lolabella Despres

Tried to do what you said and to no avail

I found that the start up script is a .dll extension, which also noted that the name ext. .exe was changed to .dll it is an icon that is clicked on to start SL, and although I was able to paste the information onto notepad.. yadiyaddah ..

Err.. this is the LINUX CLIENT ALPHA TESTERS forum.. Not Windows and *.dll and *.exe and notepad and Start --> Run and stuff...

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'//iLLuMPJuH Gausman

Lolabella Despres

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Join date: 29 Apr 2007

Posts: 9

Oops!

01-09-2008 06:47

Thanks for letting me know

...will post to correct thread.

Second Life crashes upon log-in
Paul Matterhorn Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 2	03-11-2007 14:24 Hi, I'm trying to run Second Life on a Thinkpad T60, with Ubuntu 6.10, and a Intel 945GM graphics adapter. I know that the videocard is not really great, but I would like to run it on this machine. I can log-in, but it will crash when I enter the world after a few seconds or so, when rendering the world. Does anyone know / have of a solution for this? Thanks, Paul Matterhorn
Paul Matterhorn Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 2	Solution found 03-11-2007 15:15 Ok, found the solution in LL_GL_BLACKLIST, and then disabling J. That gives me at least a workable Second Life. Seems a lot slower though than on Windows on the same machine.
Drake Bacon Linux is Furry Join date: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 443	03-14-2007 03:32 It's the Intel graphics card in your laptop. Intel's kinda slacking with the 3D performance. Hopefully they'll jack it back up. I doubt you can swap the card out for a better one like on the Dell Inspiron E1505. _____________________ Drake Bacon/Drake Winger Home: Custom AMD X2 (65nm) 5000+, 4 Gig RAM, Gentoo amd64, NVidia GeForce 8600GT PCIe Mobile: Dell Inspiron E1505 (Core Duo 1.6GHz, 1 gig RAM, Gentoo x86, NVidia GeForce Go 7300 PCIe) Backup: iMac (Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 4 gig RAM, ATI Radeon HD 2400, MacOS X Leopard) Don't Ask: Asus EeePC 900A (Atom 1.6Ghz, 1 gig RAM, Intel graphics, Gentoo x86)
Natality Hax Registered User Join date: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 11	i also have I945GM problems 03-14-2007 06:37 I've got i945GM too. I get to run around in sl for approximately 0-1 minutes before not only sl crashes, but i get stuck in black X windows and have to ssh in to reboot the machine. running xorg7.1 on linuxfromscratch.org i get some kind of error code 11<?> in the logfile -- don't know what that's all about. anyone have a clue?
Tofu Linden Linden Lab Employee Join date: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 471	03-14-2007 06:44 A near-future update (though probably not this week's) will disable this problematic GL extension by default to avoid the fatalities with Intel 915/945 chipset users. (That also disables shiny by default, but people read the client's README file, right, so they'll know how to turn it on again... ) During the beta phase we'll assemble a proper Linux GL blacklist so that 'everyone' gets the best set of features according to their card/drivers, instead of this lowest common denominator by default.
Natality Hax Registered User Join date: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 11	03-15-2007 04:32 LL_GL_BLACKLIST=j it works!
Tofu Linden Linden Lab Employee Join date: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 471	03-15-2007 04:41 Cool... that does make me feel a lot better about making that option the default.
Lolabella Despres Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9	Novice Here! Need help! 01-04-2008 14:35 From: Paul Matterhorn Ok, found the solution in LL_GL_BLACKLIST, and then disabling J. That gives me at least a workable Second Life. Seems a lot slower though than on Windows on the same machine. _________________________ What exactly do you need to do? If anyone has step by step I would appreciate it!
Jy Blackthorne Registered User Join date: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 3	Ll_gl_blacklist 01-08-2008 18:10 Edit the secondlife file (the one you click to run it). Right-click the secondlife launch file & open with whatever editor you like, & change the line '#export LL_GL_BLACKLIST=abcd....' to 'export LL_GL_BLACKLIST=j'
Lolabella Despres Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9	Thank you JY for your post! 01-09-2008 06:16 Tried to do what you said and to no avail I found that the start up script is a .dll extension, which also noted that the name ext. .exe was changed to .dll it is an icon that is clicked on to start SL, and although I was able to paste the information onto notepad, it was unreadable, even attempted to change the font as well. When I right click on the icon to start SL, the only options that come up are: OPEN, Run as... Scan with AVG, Add to archive..., Add to "SecondLife.rar", Compress and email...,Compress to "SecondLife.rar" and email, Pin to Start menu, Sent To, Cut, Copy, Create Shortcut, Delete, Rename, Properties. No "open with" option. I have sent notecards out to my friends hoping they can also assist and/or shed some light on this. I dropped you one as well. Here are the specs on the T61: 6465CTO CTO THINKPAD T61 WIDESCREEN-1Y 42V8191 SBBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO T7500 46P4166 VBB MICROSOFT WINXP PROFESSION 42V8376 SBB MS WIN XP PROF.US ENG. 42V8287 SBB 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT 42X0817 SBB INT GMAX3100 GM965W 41W2063 VBB 2GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 2DIMM 42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH 42V8297 SBB UN(TRCKP TOUCHPAD)FINGERRE 42V8169 SBB 100GB HDD,7200RPM 42V8171 SBB CD-RW/DVD-R24X24X24X8XUB-S 42X0806 VBB PC CARDSLOT SM CARDSLOT 41W1501 SBB INTELPRO/WL3945ABGUSCNLAAP 62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN 39T4822 VBB WWAN 42V9334 SBB WAN:CINGULAR 39T6651 SBB 9 CELL LI-ION BATTERY 41W1787 SBB CPK NORTH AMERICA 42V8302 SBB LANGPACK US ENGLISH 42X1233 SBB NEWINTELLAB_DUALCORE/CEDUO 42V9665 SBB FCC, LABEL 42X1482 SBB BLUETOOTH W/ ANTENNA 42X1483 SBB BLUETOOTH SCREW 42X1996 SBB UNSELECTED FEATURE ATTCH 39T6440 SBB 56K V.92 DESIGNED MODEM 42V8678 SBB CINGULAR OPTION 42V8656 SBB CL.PLATE T61WL BT WWAN 41W1749 SBB GEO LABEL US WLAN BT 41W2300 SBB LOGO PLATE 42X0826 SBB INT WWAN ANT:15.4 "VOD/CIN 93P7250 SBB THINKPAD LOGOPLATET-SERIES 42X0838 SBB INTEL GMA960W/WWAN,W/AMT 42V8229 SBB MS LABEL (XP) 42X0884 SBB MT 6465 SYSTEM LABEL 42X0850 SBB MECH MISC PARTS 42W7002 SBB FCC-ID/LABEL FOR WWAN 42V8601 SBB NO UWB ANTENNA 42V8238 SBB ODD SW CD-RW/DVD-ROMCOMBO 42X0996 SBB PC CARD SLOT SMART CSLOT 42V8251 SBB SIM CARD VOD 42V8612 SBB ST LCD COVER/BEZEL 15.4" 42V8300 SBB 1GB PC2-5300 DDR2 667MHZ 42T6638 SBB PACK. US, 15.4" 41C9167 THKPLUS TP 2YR IOR 9X5 NBD Mfg part #: 41C9167 40Y9135 THINKPLUS TS AND CS
WiLLuMPJuH Gausman Debianishly Dorkish ;P Join date: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 69	01-09-2008 06:36 From: Lolabella Despres Tried to do what you said and to no avail I found that the start up script is a .dll extension, which also noted that the name ext. .exe was changed to .dll it is an icon that is clicked on to start SL, and although I was able to paste the information onto notepad.. yadiyaddah .. Err.. this is the LINUX CLIENT ALPHA TESTERS forum.. Not Windows and .dll and .exe and notepad and Start --> Run and stuff... _____________________ '//iLLuMPJuH Gausman
Lolabella Despres Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9	Oops! 01-09-2008 06:47 Thanks for letting me know ...will post to correct thread.

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