Voice in the Linux client - is this a cruel hoax?
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Johanna Hyacinth
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08-02-2007 16:23
When logging in with the latest viewer, it took me through voice configuration - yet voice doesn't seem to be working; I don't see any dot over my head, and I can't hear anyone talking.
Is there some special configuration I need to go through to get voice working under Linux, or is the actual voice functionality still missing?
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Chrysocolla Rau
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Join date: 16 Feb 2007
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likewise for me
08-02-2007 16:29
it seems the client can't connect to... something. Not sure what, but I see this in the console when I turn on voice: 2007-08-02T23:15:17Z INFO: LLVoiceClient:  etState: entering state stateDaemonLaunched 2007-08-02T23:15:18Z WARNING: ll_apr_warn_status: APR: Connection refused ... (until I disable voice, then: 2007-08-02T23:15:21Z INFO: LLVoiceClient:  tateMachine: Disabling voice before connection to daemon, terminating.
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Drake Bacon
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08-02-2007 16:30
The logs are looking for a "<SLBINDIR>/SLVoice" program to connect to, and it's not working.
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Moy Loon
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08-02-2007 16:37
D: same is happening to me...something similar with the connection refused happened long ago while it was still beta grid only...but i changed accounts and it worked...i changed accounts now...and it doesnt...
so close to voice on linux...and it does this D:...oh well...ive waited this long...i can wait until they fix this =p
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Creem Pye
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08-02-2007 16:51
I have the same problem as the previous posters. I'm wondering if voice isn't ready yet, since I wasn't even able to choose the audio devices to use. If you look at the changelog, the only mention of Linux is streaming video support (using gstreamer).
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Antonius Misfit
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The SLVoice daemon...
08-02-2007 17:44
From: Creem Pye I have the same problem as the previous posters. I'm wondering if voice isn't ready yet, since I wasn't even able to choose the audio devices to use. If you look at the changelog, the only mention of Linux is streaming video support (using gstreamer). The SLVoice daemon is probably the "binary blob" that Tofu is waiting for. IIRC, he <b>did</b> say that all the code was ready except for the blob. I think this is exactly what he was talking about.
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Johanna Hyacinth
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08-02-2007 17:53
From: Antonius Misfit The SLVoice daemon is probably the "binary blob" that Tofu is waiting for. IIRC, he <b>did</b> say that all the code was ready except for the biob. I think this is exactly what he was talking about. It probably is - but previous Linux clients have never even given us the voice setup wizard. I thought maybe Vivox had finally gotten their thumbs out and finished porting it. I've installed the latest gstreamer, but when I click on the "play" button for parcel video (Quicktime .mov, Sorenson 3 codec), I just get: INFO: convertImageAndLoadUrl: MEDIA> unable to load Is there something we need to do to enable it?
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Antonius Misfit
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Check the GStreamer plugins
08-02-2007 18:10
From: Johanna Hyacinth It probably is - but previous Linux clients have never even given us the voice setup wizard. I thought maybe Vivox had finally gotten their thumbs out and finished porting it. I've installed the latest gstreamer, but when I click on the "play" button for parcel video (Quicktime .mov, Sorenson 3 codec), I just get: INFO: convertImageAndLoadUrl: MEDIA> unable to load Is there something we need to do to enable it?Check with your package manager to see which gstreamer plugins you have installed. On Ubuntu, the packages are "gstreamer0.10-plugins-*" where "*" is good, bad, and ugly. Once you have those packages(and their dependencies) installed, you should be able to get video streaming. But there are two in-world things you need to be aware of: first, you need a FreeView TV(or equivalent) object on your land, and that you might not get sound from the movies. But anyways it's a good step away from external streaming 
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Johanna Hyacinth
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08-02-2007 18:21
From: Antonius Misfit Check with your package manager to see which gstreamer plugins you have installed. On Ubuntu, the packages are "gstreamer0.10-plugins-*" where "*" is good, bad, and ugly. Once you have those packages(and their dependencies) installed, you should be able to get video streaming. But there are two in-world things you need to be aware of: first, you need a FreeView TV(or equivalent) object on your land, and that you might not get sound from the movies. But anyways it's a good step away from external streaming  I've got all the packages with "gstreamer0.10" in the name installed, even the dev libraries. All the plugins as well - base, good, bad and ugly. And a Windows-using friend says the object with the parcel media texture is playing it fine for her. I'm using Debian Etch, if that makes a difference.
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Antonius Misfit
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It *should* work on Debian...
08-02-2007 19:06
From: Johanna Hyacinth I've got all the packages with "gstreamer0.10" in the name installed, even the dev libraries. All the plugins as well - base, good, bad and ugly. And a Windows-using friend says the object with the parcel media texture is playing it fine for her. I'm using Debian Etch, if that makes a difference. I'm using Ubuntu Feisty, so there shouldn't be too much of a difference. Are you able to play Quicktime movies in Totem Movie Player? If so, then it should work. And I'm pretty sure you don't need the dev libraries, unless you're planning on building your own GStreamer plugins or applications.
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Johanna Hyacinth
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08-02-2007 19:12
From: Antonius Misfit I'm using Ubuntu Feisty, so there shouldn't be too much of a difference. Are you able to play Quicktime movies in Totem Movie Player? If so, then it should work. And I'm pretty sure you don't need the dev libraries, unless you're planning on building your own GStreamer plugins or applications. Not only can I play them in Totem, I can use gstreamer itself to play the very same URLs that are giving me "unable to load" messages with: gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=(url) I even made symbolic links for all of the gst-* applications without the -0.10 (e.g. gst-launch, gst-visualise, etc.), but that doesn't seem to have made a difference to SL. Installing the dev libraries was just pure desperation, since nothing else seemed to be working...
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Tofu Linden
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08-03-2007 02:54
From: Antonius Misfit The SLVoice daemon is probably the "binary blob" that Tofu is waiting for. IIRC, he <b>did</b> say that all the code was ready except for the biob. I think this is exactly what he was talking about. Right, we're still waiting on the completion of a component which will allow voice to function under Linux.
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Birkoff Enoch
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08-03-2007 03:02
From: Tofu Linden Right, we're still waiting on the completion of a component which will allow voice to function under Linux. Thanks Tofu for video... im downloading it now, hope it works, long time i want to see videos on SL! Gstreamer integration is awesome... Am i wrong, or with that the Linux client is MORE powerfull for videos than the Windows client? Because i guess gstreamer can open more video types than quicktime, correct? Well, abou the Voice thing... I am very courious about it too... In the release blog post, it says "voice is open-source" Is it or isnt it? Looks like, for what Im reading here, that it is closed, not open...
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Tofu Linden
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08-03-2007 04:04
From: Birkoff Enoch Am i wrong, or with that the Linux client is MORE powerfull for videos than the Windows client? Because i guess gstreamer can open more video types than quicktime, correct? Correct, if you have the right plugins installed.
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Johanna Hyacinth
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08-03-2007 04:51
From: Tofu Linden Right, we're still waiting on the completion of a component which will allow voice to function under Linux. Tofu, the SL Blog entry about the new voice viewer says: Does this mean the Linux programmers in our community can jump in and help speed up the creation of the voice component?
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Tofu Linden
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08-03-2007 07:36
From: Johanna Hyacinth Does this mean the Linux programmers in our community can jump in and help speed up the creation of the voice component? Not really - though anyone interested can discuss the matter at greater length on SLDev.
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TaraLi Jie
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08-03-2007 09:02
From: Tofu Linden Not really - though anyone interested can discuss the matter at greater length on SLDev. So I'm presuming that we really will have to wait for 1.19 to get voice in the Linux client? Everything in the release notes for this version gave me the strong impression that it would be working for Linux. Considering the vocal (pun intended) opposition to Voice in the first place, couldn't the release of the feature waited until all clients were supported?
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Benru Pera
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08-03-2007 11:43
I hope the voice is ready for linux soon. Everything in SL is smoother when run from linux than from the windows partition  regards, Benru
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Drake Bacon
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08-03-2007 15:56
It could also mean we could replace the voice component, if it runs as a daemon.
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Cow Taurog
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08-04-2007 01:57
This was a prety cruel hoax, but good to know that voice in linux has actually been worked on, even though it's still technically in alpha. From: someone So I'm presuming that we really will have to wait for 1.19 to get voice in the Linux client? -Seems to be that way, but i get the impression that the next release ins't gonna be for a bit to give LL a chance to catch their breath, probably for windlight. The download page for the first look viewer is actually empty for once, which says to me the next release isn't going to be until something even shinier comes out.
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Corax Homewood
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08-11-2007 18:14
How appropriate, when you go through voice setup you get to the level control slider and it says "Please Wait". I'm waiting! And waiting, and waiting and waiting..... In fact, I've been waiting for months now for that "blob", and I wish someone would tell us who to holler at to get off their duff and do something!
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Drake Bacon
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08-11-2007 20:21
Vivox. Point 'em to this and the "Squaking at Tofu" thread, and tell 'em the timing excuse doesn't work.
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Tao Lyne
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02-26-2008 22:35
The 1.19 RC4 release of linux SL client seems to have voice working. Check it out at http://secondlife.com/community/downloads-optional.php
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