Beta Client 1.16.0.1 ????

It was really lousy timing putting a mandatory upgrade of the Beta grid right before SL downtime yesterday, and inviting everyone to try out the Beta grid *without* providing a client for Linux users. But now there's a link on the beta-client page again for Linux... and it's to 1.16.0.0, which won't work.

Are we going to get a client for the beta grid?

Strangely the source for 1.16.01 is there for one day already.
You could compile the source itself by checking it out with:
svn co http://svn.secondlife.com/svn/linden/branches/2007/sculpties2

-Asriazh

Yeah, but trying to compile it only gives me problems, as who knows how many of the required components are not present at the required release on my system.

Would it be okay if Linux users were permitted onto the Beta grid again? Please? We won't do whatever it was that got us kicked off of it... Just give us back the client!!

WTF!
"Why don't we just stick an old beta grid version that won't connect onto the download page. That will keep 'em busy."

Can't do much with that I'm afraid.

F the source. I'm not a dev, just a simple linux user. And I just wanna DO something.
Could only manage a few minutes on BG before, and still can't get on at all now.

*shuffles off to wait under rock again*

1.16.0.2 has now been posted, Windows and MacOS only. The Linux download still links to version 1.16.0.0.

Is it even possible to compile it yourself? If it were, you'd think that Linden Labs would have done it already. This sounds to me like someone made changes which broke the Linux viewer, and they're not ready to admit it yet.

I'm close to making a compile attempt myself, even though my computer isn't ideal for compiling such a large application.

I just compiled the source for the 1.15.1.3 (?)current)) release last night. I am not a programmer but by following the instructions and reading the error messages when it crashed to find the missing libraries I got it after a few false starts and the third night of letting it run to compile. Using Debian etch/Kde I read the error message about what it couldn't find and did a package search for that library. Most of my errors came from not having the devel libraries which were easy enough to find and install using Kpackage.

As for power I did it on a Dell Inspirion 5150 laptop 2.6ghz Intel Pentium4 mobile and 1 gig of ram. One thing I did do is after the first long compile attempt and realized it would take three to fours to compile I took my laptop apart and cleaned out the dust good to lower the temperature. Another task I had been putting off for a while.

Look, it isn't about whether or not we can compile the thing (in point of fact, I can't). Would the Windows users be satisfied with source code they might be able to make work after an upgrade? And if it's so simple to compile, why can't someone do it and put it up for download?

This is a serious issue, it is a *blocker* for the entire Linux community wrt the beta grid. (you can't get more serious than not having the program). Where's the right place to report and escalate this enough so it gets attention? I'd think Lindens read this forum now and then, and I have already entered in a ticket on JIRA. But so far not a post here saying "oops, gimme a couple of hours to get the compile going" or a even post saying "oops, screw you, I really don't care if you have to wait a week for beta-grid access, just sit there and wait, we'll get to it." (Or "don't bother waiting, we're giving up" Just *some* official answer, aside from the intellectually insulting link to the *wrong* program on the website, as though it's supposed to mean something.

The newest source available is 1.16.0.0.

The newest Tarball source is 1.16.0.0. The one from the SVN is 1.16.01.
Still, i cant see either why it's not available as precompiled binary when the sourcecode is there...

If you like you can check which versions are available and which are the latest here:
http://svn.secondlife.com/trac/linden/browser

-Asriazh

Now the beta version for Windows and Macintosh is 1.16.0.2; Linux is unchanged.

Linux users are now stuck with a beta client two versions behind those available for other systems, several days after having been promised 1.16.0.1. What is going on here?

I wouldn't mind being two revisions behind if it *worked*.

Please vote at https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-129 and try to escalate this issue so they'll do something about it.

Yay, looks like the issue has been assigned. So at least there's some acknowledgment. That counts.

Be on the lookout for Tofu. He will probably be wearing a wig and sunglasses.

"Linux Users: An updated Linux viewer is not available yet. We’ll have that available ASAP tomorrow morning."

Hmmmm
silly me assumed that was tomorrow morning earth time

silence from the Lindens is a bit worrying

Yeah, I wondered (and wonder) about that too. It does count that they assigned the issue, it means some acknowledgment of its existence, and they've removed the ridiculous link to the wrong software from the download page. But the "ASAP tomorrow morning" was a few yesterdays ago, and it is preposterous to consider the issue of "normal" priority when there is no workaround short of installing a different OS.

And does this mean when the main grid gets updated that they won't have a viewer for Linux then either?

Update! The Linux viewer is up and it works! I was even able to put my flexiprims back on!

Second Life 1.16.0 (4) May 21 2007 17:10:30

You are at 254607.6, 255606.1, 40.8 in Sandbox Island located at sim16.aditi.lindenlab.com (72.5.15.209:12035)

CPU: Can't get terse CPU information
Memory: 504 MB
OS Version: Linux 2.6.11.12-lfs-1 #3 Wed Jan 11 21:04:40 EST 2006 i686
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE
OpenGL Version: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.84
LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.10_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 56/22147 (0.3%)
Viewer Digest: dff31f2a-8feb-382f-164e-b7daf7f12ed1

If I'm going to post to kvetch, it's only fair that I post to compliment as well. Thanks to LL for getting the Linux beta client up to date.

Yes, me too: excellent! Thanks for fixing this.

The only drama we get and it was so short lived. You miss so much running Linux.

Maybe not.. here it is, a day later, and, as Peter Noone once said, "Second verse, same as the first." Windows and Mac betas are up to 1.16.0.105, and the Linux beta 1.16.0.4 can't run on the beta grid.

Aaargh!