need help please for music sound if possible?
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xXmetaphorXx Pearl
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09-18-2009 09:49
hi there i know it prolly can't be done but i wanta hear music...???? a. here is my stats wat would i need to do in oder to hear it? b. is there a work around? From: someone Second Life 1.23.4 (12390  Jun 11 2009 15:37:14 (Second Life Release) Release Notes Built with GCC version 40102 You are at 266108.6, 301790.4, 22.4 in Dance Island located at sim5183.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.48.184:13002) Second Life Server 1.27.2.129782 Release Notes CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) 9750 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 4893 MB OS Version: Linux 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 19:25:34 UTC 2009 x86_64 Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 3.0.0 NVIDIA 180.44 libcurl Version: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.7c zlib/1.2.3.3 c-ares/1.4.0 J2C Decoder Version: KDU Audio Driver Version: OpenAL, version 1.1 / OpenAL Community / OpenAL Soft: ALSA Software on default LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.26945 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.18_0000000000) Packets Lost: 0/15736 (0.0%) note....i can heat voices and voice animations just not music here is some additional pc stats From: someone CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) 9750 Quad-Core Processor GPU: nVidia Corporation GeForce 9800 GTX (rev a2) Audio: HDA ATI SB () Audio: HDA ATI SB (ALC883 Analog) Audio: HDA ATI SB (ALC883 Digital)
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xXmetaphorXx Pearl
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09-18-2009 10:24
wouldnt work in this post so here the link http://secondlife-64bit.blogspot.com/
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Katheryne Helendale
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09-18-2009 11:27
You are running a 64-bit system. Although the newer viewers should have detected this and implemented the workaround automatically, it does not appear to be the case here. As of viewer 1.22.17 and newer, the viewer uses gstreamer for streaming music. ALL viewers use gstreamer for streaming video. The problem is, the viewer cannot make use of 64-bit gstreamer libraries, and the usual fix of using ia64 does not work. When you attempt to listen to music, nothing will happen. When you attempt to view streaming media (video), your viewer will crash with SIGSEGV. Although you will never be able to get video working, you can get music working again by opening the secondlife shell script in a text editor and looking for the following lines: From: someone ## - Avoids using any OpenAL audio driver. #export LL_BAD_OPENAL_DRIVER=x ## - Avoids using any FMOD audio driver. #export LL_BAD_FMOD_DRIVER=x REMOVE the pound sign (#) from the beginning of the line "export LL_BAD_OPENAL_DRIVER=x". It should now look like this: From: someone ## - Avoids using any OpenAL audio driver. export LL_BAD_OPENAL_DRIVER=x ## - Avoids using any FMOD audio driver. #export LL_BAD_FMOD_DRIVER=x Save your changes and relaunch the viewer. Note: The path to your secondlife shell script depends on where you installed the Second Life folder. In my case, it is ~/SecondLife-i686-1.23.4.123908/secondlife. For others, it may be in /usr/share/SecondLife....
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xXmetaphorXx Pearl
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thank you for the quick reply....
09-18-2009 20:17
ty for the reply.. but that didnt work doing what u suggested kill all the sound which is a real shame as i wanta hear tunes. I just find it weird that i can hear peeps talking and doin voices emote but cant hear music...
Could it be that i am missing a lib somewhere...?
also could it be that my pc uses either HDA ati sb / pulseaudio ?
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xXmetaphorXx Pearl
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did some testing...
09-18-2009 23:19
okay, I did some testing i noticed it doesnt work on my laptop either... i have come to the conculsion that it is a issue with the 64bit os's out there, laptop is running winxp-64bit and i was wondering is there any1 out there that uses winxp-64bit has the same issue or is this a issue with my sound card... ?
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Katheryne Helendale
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09-19-2009 21:31
This is a serious long shot, but try going to this site and see if you can play any of the streams there: http://www.977music.com/Something tells me either your router is somehow blocking ports commonly used by Shoutcast and other music streams, or you might be missing a codec needed to decode the stream. You can play MP3s just fine, right? One other possibility: You mentioned that switching to FMOD killed all of your SL sounds. That is *not* normal. Go back to your secondlife script and make sure that you did not uncomment "export LL_BAD_FMOD_DRIVER=x" (make sure there's still a # in front of it). Beyond that, it sounds like Pulseaudio might be missing or misconfigured. Edit: You mentioned the same exact problem with your WinXP system.... Assuming these are two separate computers, this strongly suggests a network issue.
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Boroondas Gupte
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09-21-2009 06:21
Try the following: * See if the Advanced menu is visible in the main (top) menu bar of the SL window. ** If not, toggle it with Ctrl-Alt-Shift-D (letter d, not delete). * Enable menu Advanced > View Admin Options. * Go to menu World > About Land .... ** Go to the media tab. ** Select and Copy ( Ctrl-C) the audio stream URL. * in a terminal, run: gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=http://whatever.example.com/you/copied/above # (replace the URI by the URL copied above, of course!) This will try to playback the audio stream directly with gstreamer. If this doesn't work, you're probably missing some gst-plugin(s) for the required codec(s). (Watch gst-launch's error messages, in this case.) If this does work, you'll have to see how you can teach SL to access gstreamer. Easiest is probably to use the 64bit binaries provided by third parties, e.g. http://omvviewer.byteme.org.uk/
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Ronnie Tomorrow
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09-29-2009 11:20
From: Katheryne Helendale you will never be able to get video working Seriously? It's not possible to run video in SL with 64-bit Linux? Could you explain this a bit more. It seems like a major bug. Is there a JIRA open on it?
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Gabby Handrick
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09-30-2009 07:28
From: Boroondas Gupte Try the following: * See if the Advanced menu is visible in the main (top) menu bar of the SL window. ** If not, toggle it with Ctrl-Alt-Shift-D (letter d, not delete). * Enable menu Advanced > View Admin Options. * Go to menu World > About Land .... ** Go to the media tab. ** Select and Copy ( Ctrl-C) the audio stream URL. * in a terminal, run: gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=http://whatever.example.com/you/copied/above # (replace the URI by the URL copied above, of course!) This will try to playback the audio stream directly with gstreamer. If this doesn't work, you're probably missing some gst-plugin(s) for the required codec(s). (Watch gst-launch's error messages, in this case.) If this does work, you'll have to see how you can teach SL to access gstreamer. Easiest is probably to use the 64bit binaries provided by third parties, e.g. http://omvviewer.byteme.org.uk/I seem to be running into the same issue using the Greenlife viewer, following the instructions in this post I can play the stream using the "gst-launch" command above but if I try to run it while SecondLife is running it says it can't open the audio device, if I run it without SecondLife running it works. I have tried commenting out the line in the secondlife shell script as indicated in an earlier post and as others have mentioned the only result is I lose all sound completely. Are there any other ideas about how to get this to work?
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Gabby Handrick
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09-30-2009 07:32
I tried editing my last post to add this but for some reason the forum software will not let me edit my post, anyway I'm putting my edit here instead...
I just noticed the link to omviewer.byteme.org.uk above, when I get back from work tonight I may investigate if I can use that to get this working, I'll report back later.
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09-30-2009 21:52
I was able to get streaming radio stations to work by building and installing a 64-bit version of the client, this is something I should have tried ages ago. Thank you Boroondas Gupte for the suggestion.
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Honor Denimore
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09-30-2009 21:55
From: someone Seriously? It's not possible to run video in SL with 64-bit Linux? Umm. That is not true. I'm currently running 64bit sabayon linux. I compiled the greenlife viewer using techwolf overlay. I can watch most video streams that I have found. There are a couple that will crash the viewer for some reason but video and audio streams work if you have the appropriate codecs and compile the viewer for 64bit use. The reason a lot of people say streams don't work is incompatiblity between the pre-built 32bit clients and 64bit gstreamer. So, if you compile your viewer against all your 64bit libraries it should work fine.
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Gabriell Anatra
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10-03-2009 00:09
I fled the sound mess that is Ubuntu 9.04 to Mepis only to run into this problem.
Sound works in everything else I've tried, Amarok, the system sounds, the streaming radio site mentioned above, Flash in Firefox, and Xmms all work well. The SL client refuses. The UI sounds work but no music.
I've tried aoss. It worked on Kubuntu 9.04, for about 5 minutes or so at least, until it crashed the client. It does nothing on Mepis.
I'm running an all 32-bit system as getting sound and video working on Linux is tough enough here without trying 64-bit stuff.
So far the only distro I've ever gotten to work is Kubuntu 7.04. I'd go back to it but it's longer supported.
After this I plan on trying Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, then Fedora, and Windows 2000, in that order.
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Gabriell Anatra
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10-03-2009 01:04
From: Katheryne Helendale You are running a 64-bit system. Although the newer viewers should have detected this and implemented the workaround automatically, it does not appear to be the case here. As of viewer 1.22.17 and newer, the viewer uses gstreamer for streaming music. ALL viewers use gstreamer for streaming video. The problem is, the viewer cannot make use of 64-bit gstreamer libraries, and the usual fix of using ia64 does not work. When you attempt to listen to music, nothing will happen. When you attempt to view streaming media (video), your viewer will crash with SIGSEGV. Although you will never be able to get video working, you can get music working again by opening the secondlife shell script in a text editor and looking for the following lines:REMOVE the pound sign (#) from the beginning of the line "export LL_BAD_OPENAL_DRIVER=x". It should now look like this  ave your changes and relaunch the viewer. Note: The path to your secondlife shell script depends on where you installed the Second Life folder. In my case, it is ~/SecondLife-i686-1.23.4.123908/secondlife. For others, it may be in /usr/share/SecondLife.... Oddly enough this did get sound working with the aoss wrapper on my system. Well, at least for about 5-10 seconds until the predictable, repeated crash behavior that is so characteristic of that method kills it.
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Katheryne Helendale
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10-05-2009 01:34
From: Honor Denimore Umm. That is not true. I'm currently running 64bit sabayon linux. I compiled the greenlife viewer using techwolf overlay. I can watch most video streams that I have found. There are a couple that will crash the viewer for some reason but video and audio streams work if you have the appropriate codecs and compile the viewer for 64bit use.
The reason a lot of people say streams don't work is incompatiblity between the pre-built 32bit clients and 64bit gstreamer. So, if you compile your viewer against all your 64bit libraries it should work fine. This is indeed good news! I knew that the problem with streaming video (streaming audio works just fine when OpenAL is disabled and FMOD is enabled) on a 64-bit system was due to incompatibilities between what the 32-bit viewer expected to find and the 64-bit gstreamer libraries present on the system. I just didn't think compiling a 64-bit viewer was possible because of dependency issues. Does your 64-bit build work exactly as the 32-bit viewers do? Or is there missing functionality (JPEG2000 and voice support, for example)?
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Katheryne Helendale
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10-05-2009 01:42
From: Gabriell Anatra Oddly enough this did get sound working with the aoss wrapper on my system. Well, at least for about 5-10 seconds until the predictable, repeated crash behavior that is so characteristic of that method kills it. You shouldn't need an aoss wrapper, or *any* kind of wrapper. If you're running Ubuntu 9.04 32-bit, SL should have worked for you right out of the box, so to speak. Are you running GTK-based Ubuntu? If so, do you have Pulseaudio installed and enabled? Do you have pulseaudio-esound-compat installed? Have you somehow configured SL to use OSS instead of ALSA? The aoss wrapper trick used to only be required to get voice to work on older (<1.22.0  viewers. Are you running KDE-based Kubuntu? Do you have Phonon installed and enabled? Unfortunately, I'm not familiar enough with KDE's sound system to go any further than that.
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Gabriell Anatra
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10-05-2009 10:06
It works in standard Ubuntu? That's good news. Even ignoring sound issues Kubuntu is almost unusable for stability issues. Kwin crashes about twice daily. I'll go back and try the standard Ubuntu and see.
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Honor Denimore
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10-05-2009 16:53
From: Katheryne Helendale This is indeed good news! I knew that the problem with streaming video (streaming audio works just fine when OpenAL is disabled and FMOD is enabled) on a 64-bit system was due to incompatibilities between what the 32-bit viewer expected to find and the 64-bit gstreamer libraries present on the system. I just didn't think compiling a 64-bit viewer was possible because of dependency issues. Does your 64-bit build work exactly as the 32-bit viewers do? Or is there missing functionality (JPEG2000 and voice support, for example)? As for missing functionality; I have not noticed any. I don't use voice so, I don't know about that. As for JPEG2000; "openjpeg-1.3"  an open source jpeg2000 codec) and "jpeg-6b" are used.
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