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Michel Mortal

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02-01-2006 19:11

1st i would like to congratulate, and thank you, for the linux client ! obviously, word will spread quickly of this great news...my question is just how quickly does linden labs want the linux masses to jump on this ? in other words, do you mind if we post the download page url to other forums (gentoo, wine, slashdot [!]) ? i will abide by your wishes . if you are ok with rapid adoption, a bittorent link on the download page might ease your bandwidth burden a bit . thanks again - michel

Nathan Stewart

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02-01-2006 19:40

Personally i wouldnt just yet, just because its an alpha, bringing in new users to an unstable client may prove difficult, especially as they wouldnt know what the working behaviour is compared to a bug, I think all linux users in sl should definately be made aware of it though

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02-01-2006 19:58

Gee, I don't know, kinda a toughy. I know if if was a company looking deperately to go big time, I'd probably target Linux in order to capture 1% of the potential market that I already have. Also as the modal Linux user has the tools, time, and inclination to reverse engineer the SL protocol, I can't think of a single reason why they should be at all concerned about publicization within the most well connected group of geeks (in the groovy sense of the word) in the world.

I'll be way surprised if the alpha isn't slashdottted by morning regardless of what anyone does.

Lum Kuhr

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02-02-2006 14:47

Google already knows about it. I found it in about 10 seconds once I was aware of it's existance.

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02-02-2006 14:48

From: Lum Kuhr

Google already knows about it. I found it in about 10 seconds once I was aware of it's existance.

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Gwyneth Llewelyn

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02-03-2006 02:05

Oops, perhaps I should have read this thread before posting an announcement on the MMORPG.org forums?

Ouch. Well, I gave no links, since they aren't "public", to the best of my knowledge. But the cat is definitely out of the bag now, the purpose was just to raise awareness...

I'll be refraining from posting on several forums where I do also participate until there is an official reply from LL on their policy. Still, I think that the sooner they officially release the alpha client, even with triple disclaimers, and lots of blinking, red tags saying Warning! This is Alpha Software! It may break your SL experience! We cannot guarantee anything if you use this client! Caveat utilitor — I guess that the Linux community, accustomed over a decade to half-working applications, will be more than tolerant — happily accepting what works and dismissing what doesn't, and still enjoy the experience...

As for having Linux hackers cracking the client... or the protocol... ah well... if they were so afraid of that, I guess LL shouldn't have released the Linux client on the first place

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Zonax Delorean

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02-03-2006 02:17

From: Gwyneth Llewelyn

Oops, perhaps I should have read this thread before posting an announcement on the MMORPG.org forums?

Yes, maybe people would come, download the client (IF they can open the website, that is), only to find out that 'cannot connect to server - service is down'

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Second time down in 2 days

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Alan Kiesler

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02-03-2006 03:09

Gah, good timing for me being busy again I suppose.

But from my own hard-fought experience, datacenters that experience any shutdown after a long period of uptime will 'sudden death' some of the hardware. In particular if it was on the verge of going (but not yet flagging enough to alert people). Its worse in their case because the original problem was sudden and not planned.

Give it a little more time, it'll be 'stable' again.

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02-03-2006 04:58

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Oops, perhaps I should have read this thread before posting an announcement on the MMORPG.org forums?

Nope this is old news even for /. Cory was demoing up and down Linux street in early January. Fret not.

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lindens: should we not publicize this ?
Michel Mortal Registered User Join date: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 6	02-01-2006 19:11 1st i would like to congratulate, and thank you, for the linux client ! obviously, word will spread quickly of this great news...my question is just how quickly does linden labs want the linux masses to jump on this ? in other words, do you mind if we post the download page url to other forums (gentoo, wine, slashdot [!]) ? i will abide by your wishes . if you are ok with rapid adoption, a bittorent link on the download page might ease your bandwidth burden a bit . thanks again - michel
Nathan Stewart Registered User Join date: 2 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,039	02-01-2006 19:40 Personally i wouldnt just yet, just because its an alpha, bringing in new users to an unstable client may prove difficult, especially as they wouldnt know what the working behaviour is compared to a bug, I think all linux users in sl should definately be made aware of it though _____________________
Introvert Petunia over 2 billion posts Join date: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,065	02-01-2006 19:58 Gee, I don't know, kinda a toughy. I know if if was a company looking deperately to go big time, I'd probably target Linux in order to capture 1% of the potential market that I already have. Also as the modal Linux user has the tools, time, and inclination to reverse engineer the SL protocol, I can't think of a single reason why they should be at all concerned about publicization within the most well connected group of geeks (in the groovy sense of the word) in the world. I'll be way surprised if the alpha isn't slashdottted by morning regardless of what anyone does.
Lum Kuhr Registered User Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 93	02-02-2006 14:47 Google already knows about it. I found it in about 10 seconds once I was aware of it's existance.
Woxie Moxie Registered User Join date: 5 Dec 2005 Posts: 4	02-02-2006 14:48 From: Lum Kuhr Google already knows about it. I found it in about 10 seconds once I was aware of it's existance. The Great Eye of GoOgle is everwatchful. shivers hehe -- Wox
Gwyneth Llewelyn Winking Loudmouth Join date: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 1,336	02-03-2006 02:05 Oops, perhaps I should have read this thread before posting an announcement on the MMORPG.org forums? Ouch. Well, I gave no links, since they aren't "public", to the best of my knowledge. But the cat is definitely out of the bag now, the purpose was just to raise awareness... I'll be refraining from posting on several forums where I do also participate until there is an official reply from LL on their policy. Still, I think that the sooner they officially release the alpha client, even with triple disclaimers, and lots of blinking, red tags saying Warning! This is Alpha Software! It may break your SL experience! We cannot guarantee anything if you use this client! Caveat utilitor — I guess that the Linux community, accustomed over a decade to half-working applications, will be more than tolerant — happily accepting what works and dismissing what doesn't, and still enjoy the experience... As for having Linux hackers cracking the client... or the protocol... ah well... if they were so afraid of that, I guess LL shouldn't have released the Linux client on the first place _____________________
Zonax Delorean Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 767	02-03-2006 02:17 From: Gwyneth Llewelyn Oops, perhaps I should have read this thread before posting an announcement on the MMORPG.org forums? Yes, maybe people would come, download the client (IF they can open the website, that is), only to find out that 'cannot connect to server - service is down' ( Second time down in 2 days _____________________
Alan Kiesler Retired Resident Join date: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 354	02-03-2006 03:09 Gah, good timing for me being busy again I suppose. But from my own hard-fought experience, datacenters that experience any shutdown after a long period of uptime will 'sudden death' some of the hardware. In particular if it was on the verge of going (but not yet flagging enough to alert people). Its worse in their case because the original problem was sudden and not planned. Give it a little more time, it'll be 'stable' again. _____________________ Timothy S. Kimball (RL) -- aka 'Alan Kiesler' The Kind Healer -- http://sungak.net No ending is EVER written; Communities will continue on their own.
Introvert Petunia over 2 billion posts Join date: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,065	02-03-2006 04:58 From: someone Oops, perhaps I should have read this thread before posting an announcement on the MMORPG.org forums? Nope this is old news even for /. Cory was demoing up and down Linux street in early January. Fret not.