[16:33] Carl Metropolitan: Jesse--that's bullshit and you know it. How does putting classes that people are no longer going to teach on a tab provide more value for us.
[16:33] Claire Glitterbuck: I've had ENOUGH.
[16:33] Theodora Duke: I agree Contessa
[16:33] Kitty Rich: My classes are so basic anyone over 3 mths leaves
[16:33] You: On the blog say about the teir prices
[16:33] Contessa Marquez: And now the Islands will go to 300 RL?????
[16:33] You: and all those that have the island do not go up
[16:33] Claire Glitterbuck: I am NOT going to help LL generate new content creators when they don't value the ones they already have.
[16:33] Contessa Marquez: and what are you doing with this money??
[16:33] You: you should refer to the blog about this
[16:33] Jesse Linden: Carl, we are opening the way for now models to emerge
[16:34] Cube Linden is Offline
[16:34] You: new ones will be going up not existing
[16:34] Indy Turner: Funny Jesse, why is linden labs cutting pay for teachers? 10,000 new people join a day and they are looking for help. You will see fewer teachers in SL. Why is the game going commercial and cutting many valued user ties?
[16:34] Jesse Linden: and allowing you to decide who you want to have as an instructor
[16:34] Contessa Marquez: Claire I agree with you why should we teach for free now?
[16:34] Jesse Linden: and which classes you want to teach
[16:34] First Page: because it is what you love contessa
[16:34] Contessa Marquez: We did this before
[16:34] Kitty Rich: each class is a 2 hour investment in time
[16:34] Xenon Darrow: so, Jesse, what happens to the Instructor group?
[16:34] Compulov Weeks: heck, I can't say I'm happy with the decision, but if linden is insistent for putting the cost of paying a teacher on the student, the least they can do is offer some sort of compensation to the students so they can take some classes
[16:34] Contessa Marquez: we taught what we wanted to as long as it was PG
[16:34] Kitty Rich: agreed Comp
[16:35] Jesse Linden: Xenon, the Instructor Group will likely remain
[16:35] Jesse Linden: either as a resident run group
[16:35] Jesse Linden: or under the direction
[16:35] Contessa Marquez: and how will they be added?
[16:35] Jesse Linden: of pathfinder
[16:35] Jesse Linden: who is coordinating all our volunteer programs
[16:35] Jesse Linden: for the time being
[16:35] Jesse Linden: Pathfinder has worked with the RL education community
[16:35] Xenon Darrow: so you are still accepting volunteers, just not paying them?
[16:35] Jesse Linden: and we've talked about this extensively
[16:35] Selaras Partridge: I have to say this decision doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. With more new residents, we would need more and better teachers, and a way to support that.
[16:35] Carl Metropolitan: At least be honest with us. If LL needs to maximize their revenue by selling those L$ on the Lindex that they were using for classes, tell us that. I will understand. But don't give me bullshit about "helping new models to emerge".
[16:36] Contessa Marquez: Well I love teaching but I pay a HUGE tier for my island
[16:36] Kitty Rich: so have a lot of us
[16:36] Compulov Weeks: I like the ideas of making it easier to find classes, heck, when I was new if I hadn't had a friend from RL in world I'd have been lost myself
[16:36] Carl Metropolitan: I am okay with a business having to cut costs.
[16:36] Jesse Linden: Carl, I'm being honest
[16:36] Contessa Marquez: so where is the money going to???
[16:36] Jesse Linden: believe me I thought about all this stuff
[16:36] Indy Turner: The game is beginning to become over run by commercial Anshe chungs "I have nothing wrong with her." The small community feel that these teachers bring is going to be lost without teachers being paid because many people will not teach anymore.
[16:36] Carl Metropolitan: No--that's the problem. You guys are _not_ being honest.
[16:36] Jesse Linden: a lot over the past several months
[16:36] Chadrick Linden is Offline
[16:36] Claire Glitterbuck: Here here, Carl
[16:36] Carl Metropolitan: If you can't afford the class support, cool
[16:36] Contessa Marquez: Well sure hope she can teach for free then
[16:36] Jesse Linden: and I truly believe the current system is unhealthy in the long run
[16:36] Jesse Linden: both for you
[16:36] Carl Metropolitan: None of us want LL to close
[16:36] Jesse Linden: and for you LL
[16:36] Radslns Hutchence: I agree Jesse
[16:37] Jesse Linden: we can always throw more admin support at the problem
[16:37] Radslns Hutchence: until someone pays you for something, you have no idea how much its worth
[16:37] Carl Metropolitan: I know the support is a small part of the overall costs of LL, but I am okay with that.
[16:37] Kitty Rich: its about the *commercially astute residents jealous that we can actually make a difference and teach people how not to get ripped off
[16:37] Jesse Linden: but that’s not a very forward thinking or sensible solution
[16:37] Theodora Duke: Yes Kitty
[16:37] Claire Glitterbuck: You're complaining now that it takes up too much LL resources - now you're saying that you'll throw more support at it. Which is it?
[16:37] nimrod Yaffle: You guys hear about the new CFO? About all the scams and ripoff he did with Housevalues.com before he sold? Isn't it ironic prices we up when he came?
[16:37] Contessa Marquez: So in 30 days when noobs have questions we are ALL to say IM live help???
[16:37] Jesse Linden: I will say this
[16:37] Jesse Linden: that the payouts
[16:37] nimrod Yaffle: Live help doesn't respond now as it is :-/
[16:38] Contessa Marquez: Yep that will be my new slogan looks like
[16:38] Jesse Linden: are not good for the economy
[16:38] John Horner: pardon me for the comment but the epic was called "sold"
[16:38] Kitty Rich: they are good for the game!!
[16:38] Claire Glitterbuck: And this is not good for the residents - who, btw, are your CUSTOMERS.
[16:38] Jesse Linden: in the past I have said this represents a substantial administrative investment
[16:38] Carl Metropolitan: Will LL be cutting LL sales on Lindex to help the economy, too?
[16:38] Kitty Rich: Education is what makes strong, aware citizens
[16:38] Jesse Linden: just ask Lucy here
[16:38] Contessa Marquez: where is all our money going to then our RL money we send you???
[16:38] You: Yes contessa do that
[16:38] Carl Metropolitan: Or will you just be honest with us.
[16:38] Radslns Hutchence: not all residents ARE customers
[16:38] Jesse Linden: but that is not the central issue at all
[16:38] You: Send them to Livhelp
[16:38] Radslns Hutchence: only those who PAY are customers
[16:39] Theodora Duke: All residents SHOULD be customers
[16:39] Stillpink Sandgrain: well excuse me but ugly big flexed moving prim boxes are not good for SL period!!!! Teaching is the most important thing you can do here in SL and should be rewarded completely!
[16:39] Claire Glitterbuck: Well now they're really not going to pay if they can't learn how to make anything to sell.
[16:39] You: do you have any questions for me about where to send them or how to
[16:39] Contessa Marquez: And they will get no help
[16:39] Jesse Linden: like I said before I think we can provide much more value to YOU
[16:39] Indy Turner: Nor is a real estate monopoly held Anshe Chung. But, nothing had been done to shop that Jesse. No, instead LL says paying teachers is unhealthy. Land inflammation even worse yet no one dare try and stop that problem.
[16:39] Carl Metropolitan: I'm not pissed that LL has to cut costs. I'm pissed that you are treating us like idiot children.
[16:39] Kitty Rich: Live help has a response time of over 5 mins between 2am and 10 am as it is
[16:39] nimrod Yaffle: LIVE HELP doesn't respond even within 15 minutes as it is, that's not a reasonable answer
[16:39] Jesse Linden: the residents through development programs
[16:39] Contessa Marquez: How???
[16:39] Jesse Linden: for education
[16:39] Indy Turner: stop*
[16:39] Contessa Marquez: Yea totally FREE education
[16:39] Contessa Marquez: from us not LL
[16:39] You: we are revamping livehelp current
[16:39] Contessa Marquez: That’s crazy
[16:39] nimrod Yaffle: Just like Havoc, Lucy?