Welcome package

Hello everyone. I've been asked by Jeska to post an update on the progress of the "welcome kits for newbies" project. So far I am compiling a list of people that willing to donate. Anyone else that wishes to donate or has the name of anyone that wishes to donate , please send me your name here or IM me in world.
We are trying to deside what donation method(s) will best work out. Some type of coupon has been mentioned several times, but one of the problems that has been pointed out with that is different time zones and being on at the same time(s) as the new player. In the next post, with Snakekiss Noir's permission, I am going to post some of the suggestions that he/she came up with. Please add your ideas to that post. I have decided to make a seperate post for the conversation for your conveniance.

Snakekiss Noir: if i make it no copy no mod.. how will u be able to give it out to new people?
Snakekiss Noir: do i make u a copy u can give out or what
Michael Fairplay: yewell you have a point
Snakekiss Noir: how do new people get this vouxher in the first contact?
Michael Fairplay: we will be giving it to them
Snakekiss Noir: im eager to help
Michael Fairplay: as the greeters
Michael Fairplay: Go ahead and make it copyable
Michael Fairplay: just so we can give it to the newb ies and you won't have to keep giving us copies
Snakekiss Noir: id have to give u a full perms item, you would have to give away a no copy no transfer version
Michael Fairplay: yes
Snakekiss Noir: thats the only way such a system can work unless i set up a script in my vendors to allow under 30 days to get a discount in same way as a money treee
Michael Fairplay: I think the first one would be easier for you
Snakekiss Noir: the main thing is my store is a physical store not vendors , its full of real things
Snakekiss Noir: ok so if i give u a voucher worth say..... 50 or 75 lindens... how does the person use it to buy stuff
Michael Fairplay: We s till need to work out some logistics on that part
Snakekiss Noir: they give to me and i give them cash.. or they give to me AFTER they select an item and i need give them that item
Michael Fairplay: That is what we need to work out what if they aren't on the same time as you
Michael Fairplay: so we need to think about this
Snakekiss Noir: the main problems seem to be... one i get a voucher, i give a newbie cash he or she goes and doesnt use that cash to buy in my store
Snakekiss Noir: so im giving them free money
Michael Fairplay: YesI see your point
Snakekiss Noir: two they have to go to my store but then they have to contact me, state item wanted, i have to get item, meet them, send and give that
Snakekiss Noir: i can see that work being too much for many donators
Michael Fairplay: yes
Snakekiss Noir: what u really need is a scripter to make a voucher that effectively is worth cash
Michael Fairplay: Yes that may be the route we have to go.
Snakekiss Noir: in effect a CREDIT which is linked to products with one sellers KEY
Snakekiss Noir: this is used in multi creayor vendors to assign the credit to a sale to different creators
Snakekiss Noir: u have to create a special thing which is acceptabel by various makers as cash
Michael Fairplay: yes I'll get with people and try to fig ure this all out
Snakekiss Noir: what u need to do is create a Credit card for newbies which can be topped up and work for various products
Snakekiss Noir: and then add subscribers keys who allow their products to be used
Snakekiss Noir: like a StarterCard
Michael Fairplay: I'll make a note of that and see if anyone can come up with it
Snakekiss Noir: it shuld have a system which allowa a newbie one purchase with anyone whos got that key to a value defined
Snakekiss Noir: i cant see may makers bothering to meet every newbie and give them free stuff
Snakekiss Noir: so ur idea may fail if it makes work for donators
Michael Fairplay: yes we need this to be the least amount of stress possible
Snakekiss Noir: yes i tried think how this can work ive been trying to create myself a customer Loyalty card
Snakekiss Noir: ill chat to my company scripter
Michael Fairplay: cool
Snakekiss Noir: hes solved all sorts of such problems for me
Snakekiss Noir: the problem is how NOT to end up giving money
Michael Fairplay: yes
Snakekiss Noir: or ull end up like a people version of a money tree
Snakekiss Noir: u need to give goods
Michael Fairplay: Exactly
Snakekiss Noir: it may be that NO money is needed
Michael Fairplay: That could be
Snakekiss Noir: it might be that u need a script that says ' if person has a Newbie Card number give item for free and only once'
Snakekiss Noir: cos that wuld check a persons ID look for a special code and then give a free item and then count names and say sorry only 1 item
Michael Fairplay: So you're sug gesting like a card keep track?
Snakekiss Noir: that already sorta works on Money Treees
Snakekiss Noir: a money tree looks at the AV name, works out if ur under 30 days join, looks to see if u have had $25 dollars and if so says sorry no more, and if not allows u to have up to ?25 if theres that much in tree
Snakekiss Noir: that is sorta like what u want
Snakekiss Noir: u want to give a newbie card which contains maybe lots of AV makers keys who ahev agreed to sponsot
Michael Fairplay: So have an ID for each sponser?
Snakekiss Noir: it says...are u trying to buy an item from a person whose key is allowed.. yes... then ok have u already had an item from this key.. no, then ok u can buy this for $0
Snakekiss Noir: if not it says sorry u have already used ur newbie vouher from this maker
Michael Fairplay: I'm just not su re how that would be done because I know absolutely nothing ab out scripting
Snakekiss Noir: now that is something a scripter ca make
Snakekiss Noir: NOR do i
Snakekiss Noir: but i know how scritping works
Snakekiss Noir: and i know how my money tree works
Michael Fairplay: Maybe if you discuss it with FlipperPAPerigrine they may be able to help you think of a way to impl iment this?
Snakekiss Noir: Saphire Bombay makes the money trees
Snakekiss Noir: copy this chat text
Snakekiss Noir: and contact him
Michael Fairplay: OK
Snakekiss Noir: its kinda similar idea
Snakekiss Noir: all works off AV keys
Snakekiss Noir: and date stamped for newbies
Snakekiss Noir: he may like the idea of ur project
Snakekiss Noir: tell him i advised u seek him out
Michael Fairplay: Ok I will do that
Snakekiss Noir: im sure what u want is possible
Snakekiss Noir: u need a 'Newbie Card'
Snakekiss Noir: which grants a discount
Michael Fairplay: BRB I'm gonna cut and paste this or try
Snakekiss Noir: what u can also do to make the idea worthwile is make each newbie pay say... $5 for the card and donate the $5 to VERTU charity
Snakekiss Noir: that way everyone has an interest to provide and also its ot seen as a total gift
Michael Fairplay: Yes
Snakekiss Noir: this thinking is what im using in the Neo Japan Club Card ide
Snakekiss Noir: it gives discounts only to members of a club
Snakekiss Noir: my customers
Snakekiss Noir: but also benefits a charity
Snakekiss Noir: another person who may help is the scripter who makes rentomatics
Michael Fairplay: *nods* should I give them a copy of this text too?
Snakekiss Noir: id be interested in helping ur project
Snakekiss Noir: im very interested in the newbie experience
Michael Fairplay: Any help is v ery much appreciated
Michael Fairplay: Any help is v ery much appreciated
Snakekiss Noir: ok stay in touch
Snakekiss Noir: im sure all this is out there inside scripts already in SL
Snakekiss Noir: just needs organising
Snakekiss Noir: i will help co ordinate this if u want
Michael Fairplay: I will definitely keep in touch

Michael

Why not pile together all the free stuff and sort them to hand out to newbies. fazzbinder pub/castle has done a similar thing and to be honest had I found that as a newbie would have cut my "freebie" search down from two weeks of search, organize, and delte doubles to two weeks of play.

talk to me in game sometime, i have some freebies i distribute through my store, i certainly wouldnt mind if you handed them out too.