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What do you do when alts grief you??

Lara Coorara
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04-10-2008 15:35
Hi all,
Im Lara, an avid content creator, and an SL Mentor...
Well, I had a quick question for you all...if a Linden could respond that would be great...but if I could get any sorta input that would be fantastic...
So heres my question/problem/situation:
I have a dear friend of mine, I have known him since my rezday in 2006, the last several months however, he has been telling me that several people within SL (namely his "ex-gf";) are after him, creating alts and harrassing him beyond belief. Now, I wouldnt think twice about this kind of thing, but this kind of paranoia is starting to scare me, and as a good friend, I cant simply let him believe things like this actually are happening to him. I have spoken with the people he has said are causing him grief, and they all deny it and call him a loon.
I am wondering, can Linden Labs do anything about this kind of grief? He owns the sim I run my business on, so he cant just up and leave and create a new character...
What can I do to help him?
(I can provide names if you IM me in world at Lara Coorara)
Thanks!!
Lara
Lara Coorara
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04-10-2008 15:41
Id also like to add, that he has also called the "feds" apparently and claims that LL is supporting - as he says- the war on terror, against him...
Wildefire Walcott
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04-10-2008 16:02
From: Lara Coorara
Id also like to add, that he has also called the "feds" apparently and claims that LL is supporting - as he says- the war on terror, against him...

Your friend and anyone else who is affected by or observes these attacks needs to file an abuse report (Help > Abuse Report) on each of the offenders. The more people who file reports, the more likely LL takes a look at it.
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Lara Coorara
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04-10-2008 16:14
I am pretty sure he has done this...
However, he also thinks LL is part of this "reign of terror" because he called the FBI about RP sims allowing drugs, rape, and underage sexual content being allowed.
This is truly baffling for me....I have tried to reason with him, but no sense or logic seems to get through. I think the only thing it will take is a Linden to send him an email and tell him he's crazy lol.
Chris Norse
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04-10-2008 18:48
From: Lara Coorara
I am pretty sure he has done this...
However, he also thinks LL is part of this "reign of terror" because he called the FBI about RP sims allowing drugs, rape, and underage sexual content being allowed.
This is truly baffling for me....I have tried to reason with him, but no sense or logic seems to get through. I think the only thing it will take is a Linden to send him an email and tell him he's crazy lol.


He called the FBI over pretend drugs and consensual rape? Has he had his meds adjusted recently?
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Colette Meiji
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04-10-2008 20:50
From: Chris Norse
He called the FBI over pretend drugs and consensual rape? Has he had his meds adjusted recently?


The sadder thing is the FBI probably took the call seriously.
Wildefire Walcott
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04-11-2008 09:32
From: Lara Coorara
I am pretty sure he has done this...
However, he also thinks LL is part of this "reign of terror" because he called the FBI about RP sims allowing drugs, rape, and underage sexual content being allowed.
This is truly baffling for me....I have tried to reason with him, but no sense or logic seems to get through. I think the only thing it will take is a Linden to send him an email and tell him he's crazy lol.

Your friend is crazy and I recommend you mute him, change your name, and enter the avatar protection program.
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Wildefire Walcott
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04-11-2008 09:36
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The sadder thing is the FBI probably took the call seriously.

Well there was mention of Second Life as a possible meeting place for international terrorists at last week's congressional hearing on virtual worlds. (I'm not kidding.)

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=165604&title=avatar-heroes
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04-11-2008 11:17
From: Wildefire Walcott
Well there was mention of Second Life as a possible meeting place for international terrorists at last week's congressional hearing on virtual worlds. (I'm not kidding.)

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=165604&title=avatar-heroes

Someone is going to have to buy those cheap sims
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Lindal Kidd
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04-11-2008 11:56
Well, it IS possible for people to create alts, and to grief someone. I've seen it, and I know that one of my friends was driven out of SL because of similar tactics employed by an ex-girlfreind and her buddies.

But your friend sounds like he's, uh, gone pretty far around the bend. Encourage him to seek RL counseling.
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Lara Coorara
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04-11-2008 12:03
I spoke with him over google talk today, and tried to be logical. I also spoke with Lexie Linden regarding this issue he is supposedly having.
He claims that he has written AR after AR reporting these people, to no avail. I spoke with one of the people he is accusing last night, and the guy said he hasnt ever really had contact with my friend, and doesnt see why he would spend his money outfitting his alts with skins, hair, shoes, and clothing just to harrass someone he barely -if at all- knows.

"*******: I found a bunch of them late one night in my pool on the mountain top in alua a pg sim. taking pics of one of my clones in a native costume giving head. they all poofed when i showed up and they saw me thats how i got those two names, so I go to [the accuseds name] flicker page for evidence. they only posted an artistic pic of it and the posts laughing about where they were now since they know i saw them, they used noobs on the airfield [the sim he owns]. Thats why I sent the thing off to the feds and the IDW. I did have a case number with them and forwarded it to LL. Then they started burning my charactors at the stake and even [****] from OD decided to place one of the burning crosses on the dance floor at od as some sick joke. thats why I picked up at od that one night and never went back [since I] cannot prove it but Its obvious"


This is a direct quote from him speaking to me in google talk earlier today.
Me and my business partner have tried talking sense to him, infact we have both told him he is a paranoid schizophrenic...he REALLY and truly believes this is happening to him.
Has anyone else encountered anything like this before?
Nika Talaj
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04-11-2008 12:07
I think SL is not a great place for people who incline to paranoia; the anonymity just plays into any conspiracy fears they may harbor.

If LL were to spend time verifying who's alt belongs to which resident for other residents, then THEY would be crazy. It would be an invasion of privacy, and an endless time sink.

edit: hon, I really do think it is unfair to post his IM dialogs here in the forum, even though you haven't divulged his name (DON'T!). I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate it, though you are trying to help.

We all encounter disturbed folks regularly in SL. Sadly, all we can do is support them as friends, and give them honest feedback when they voice thought disorders. We can't really help them ... as Lindal said, your friend sounds like he may need RL help.
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Lara Coorara
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04-11-2008 12:07
From: Lindal Kidd
Well, it IS possible for people to create alts, and to grief someone. I've seen it, and I know that one of my friends was driven out of SL because of similar tactics employed by an ex-girlfreind and her buddies.

But your friend sounds like he's, uh, gone pretty far around the bend. Encourage him to seek RL counseling.


Well he believes the girl he was seeing several months ago, that he dumped, is trying to get back at him. So similar situation I suppose. He believes she is the root of it all. When I asked him if he has spoken to her about this issue, he says no, since it would make it obvious to "them" that they are getting to him.
Ordinal Malaprop
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04-11-2008 12:09
He sounds, to be quite frank, as if he has some Issues. I would not pander to them if I were you. (Probably calling him a paranoid schizophrenic was not the best idea, mind you, even if he were one.)
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Lara Coorara
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04-11-2008 12:17
Well...I dont think he is clinically a paranoid schizophrenic. He was fine until a few months ago. Paranoid schizophrenia in men usually gets diagnosed in late teens, early 20's. He is in his mid-40's.
I just think he is bored tbh, and he gets caught up with this. I also think he might have a RL reading comprehension problem in that Ive had conversations with him, and he totally gets the wrong jist of the conversation, and fills in gaps with elaborate conjectures.

Grr.. I might just buy an island with my business partner (and RL sis) and try to distance ourselves from him until he gets some help. He IS a nice guy...just Im not sure where all this bizarre behavior is stemming from.
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Arua Rotaru
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04-11-2008 15:45
sounds like this guy needs more help then you can give him
he is taking things way beyond what they need to and making more out of things then he should

he has no proof the griefers are the people he is accusing
id be more concerned why he needs an alt dressed up in native costuming giving head while he is on another character but to each their own i guess
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