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Jennifer McLuhan
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Join date: 22 Aug 2005
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03-27-2006 15:34
Here is your chance to help us lowly PC users. :) I have gotten several new MAC users asking at Help Island or in-world, when I TP them from the WA to my home, how to do”….” on a MAC.

Would someone write up the basic key strokes that correspond to PC keys and post it? I and anybody else who needs it could then C&P it into a notecard.

I have been asked questions like, “How do I right click with a single button mouse?” Or, “How can I fly when I don’t have Page Up or Page Down keys?” I told them about the F key and Fly button but, that seems to be an all or nothing method.

There were some others but I don’t remember them, this at the moment.

Jen
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03-27-2006 15:39
Thank you for posting this! I have been asked these questions a few times..
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Laukosargas Svarog
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Join date: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 1,304
03-27-2006 16:43
All keys on Mac are the same as PC.

Except I believe where on the PC, CTL is used you can optionally use CMD instead on the Mac. ( I use CTL for SL menu commands even on the Mac because CMD+M for example will minimise the SL window but CTL+M works properly )

Page up/down can be substituted with E and C

arrows can be substituted with A,D,W,S

If anyone mentions a single button mouse... laugh.

( i jest )

tell them to CMD + click to simulate the right button.
and then strongly urge them to invest a few cents on a 2 button mouse !!

:)

[edit]
LL have not followed the Apple GUI guidelines anywhere, so it's not surprising CTL+click doesn't work for the mouse but CMD+click does! ( the opposite of what any Mac user would expect! )
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Salazar Jack
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Join date: 12 Feb 2004
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03-27-2006 17:02
From: Laukosargas Svarog
mmm, ctl+click might not work! I just tried it with my 4 button mouse. Mac users with a single button mouse might be a little screwed... enlighten me other mac users ...
so maybe laughing might be the best way to embarrass a Mac user into buying a proper mouse ! ;) ;)


And even more difficult with no mouse and balancing your laptop on one thigh!

On a Mac with a single button mouse, one can make a right-click by holding down the Command (Apple) key while clicking. Same goes for the laptop... hold down the Command key while clicking the trackpad button.
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Laukosargas Svarog
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03-27-2006 17:05
ah yes, just discovered that too, caught me cross editing ;)
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Laukosargas Svarog
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03-27-2006 17:09
I think it really pays to use a mouse in SL with a powerbook if at all possible. I use a PB and found the trackpad painful after a while so I just plug in the mouse nowadays. I guess the same would apply to a PC notebook too.

Another great hint for Powerbook/iBook users is to get hold of a driver called SideTrack
this replaces the trackpad driver with a better one that lets you define areas for scrolling and right clicking etc.
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Salazar Jack
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03-27-2006 17:15
From: Laukosargas Svarog
I think it really pays to use a mouse in SL with a powerbook if at all possible. I use a PB and found the trackpad painful after a while so I just plug in the mouse nowadays. I guess the same would apply to a PC notebook too.

Another great hint for Powerbook/iBook users is to get hold of a driver called "SideTrack"
this replaces the trackpad driver with a better one that lets you define areas for scrolling and right clicking etc.


I totally agree! But it's fun sometimes, when you just have your Powerbook propped up on your lap, to go mouseless.
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Blazen Glass
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Join date: 15 Feb 2006
Posts: 14
Pg up/Pg dn keys
04-12-2006 13:29
Read in the previous message that you need touse E & C for flying/jumping etc...do u hit any other key with it? can't seem to get it to work....Help...keeps me low flying arghhhh
Seraph Nephilim
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Join date: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 255
PowerBook/iBook Page Up/Down
04-12-2006 14:37
On either a PowerBook or an iBook, Page Up and Page Down are available by holding down the "fn" key and pressing the Up Arrow or Down Arrow keys, respectively. (In fact, on my keyboard, they are labeled "page ^" and "page v".) Note that there are a couple of places where they don't respond when they should, and you have to use the "E" and "C" keys. (No, unfortunately I don't remember where.)

Actually, LL breaks *a lot* of Human Interface guidelines, not just the use of Cmd-Click instead of Ctrl-Click for a right-click. When you double click a word, it selects the entire line -- it should just select the word you just double-clicked on. Option+left/right arrow should move a word at a time, not Command+arrow. (Command+arrow should move to beginning or end of line.) I could go on, but I won't. Don't know if this should be considered a rant or a bug report, though. :-)
frank Foley
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Join date: 5 Feb 2006
Posts: 45
04-14-2006 14:40
you can also encourage mac users to join the Macintosh Users Group, and tell them they can ask questions to the group in IM. This group is very friendly and always answers questions quickly.
Martin Mounier
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Join date: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 24
Mac FAQ
05-05-2006 16:54
I started to work on a Mac SL FAQ. Looking for Team Partners.
Seraph Nephilim
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Join date: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 255
05-06-2006 06:48
From: Martin Mounier
I started to work on a Mac SL FAQ. Looking for Team Partners.
You could put it up on the wiki, so that anyone one of us could help/update it, as needed.
Toy LaFollette
I eat paintchips
Join date: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 2,359
05-06-2006 07:13
Second Life and the Mac

(scroll down to the Troubleshooting section for diagnosing and fixing problems)

First off, forget Ctrl-Clicking? in Second Life! Cmd-Click? (Apple-Click) is how it's done here, and note that the Mac Option key is equal to a PC Alt key. If you have a two button mouse you'll find SL a lot easier!

To find a Mac user group, click the Find button then the Groups tab. Type in Mac and hit Search. You can join the group from that window. Other Mac users will be happy to help you out :-)

Based on experience, it seems the lowest Mac configuration that is acceptable for Second Life is a Powerbook G4/iBook G4 1GHZ with 768MB RAM and a 64MB Video card. If you have a G5 with 128 MB of video RAM, some of these modifications may not be necessary. My advice is to start here, and turn things up as long as you don't crash.

Under this configuration and similar configurations the following settings are advisable in Preferences:

Graphics Tab > Performance Options: uncheck all settings except Shiny Objects.

Graphics Tab > Avatar Rendering: Select Normal.

Graphics Tab > Terrain Detail: this is variable, but the Some setting is acceptable.

Graphics Tab > Gamma: Don't worry about this, your Mac controls it. Only useful for full-screen mode, which is inadvisable on a Mac.

Graphics Tab > Display Resolution: Check Run in a window. Don't worry about the settings after that.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Performance Options: Check AGP if it's not grayed. If it's not able to be checked your Mac's video card does not support AGP, which greatly accelerates video. Obviously you want this checked!

Adv. Graphics Tab > Texture Cache Size: This depends on how much total RAM you have. If you have 768MB or more you should use the Large option. Keep in mind that running other applications at the same time as Second Life can reduce the amount of available RAM.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Video Card Memory: Max this out! It only goes up to the total amount of VRAM you have.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Object Detail: Move the slider to the middle.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Tree Detail: Move the slider to the middle.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Avatar Detail: Max it out if you can, but anything at the middle or above is good.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Avatar Vertex Program: This option can cause some problems on some Macs. If you check it and see weirdness (defined as your avatar staying gray, turning bright white or otherwise improperly rendering) for more than a minute, turn off this setting.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Show Avatar in Mouselook: Not necessary, it just shows your avatar's hands etc. when in Mouselook mode.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Draw Distance: In general, 64 meters is good for busy locations. If you want to take a picture of a beautiful scene you can up it much higher. For low traffic areas, 96 is good.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Fog Distance: This feature fades out things that are on the threshold of your draw distance. 1.5 to 2.5 is good for this option. if you have your draw distance down at 64 meters set the fog to 1.3.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Drop Draw Distance if FPS: In the event that your FPS (frames per second, or how fast SL can draw the screen) drops below this number, your draw distance will drop dramatically. Setting this to 0 disables the feature, 3-5 is a good option.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Bumpiness Draw Distance: With enabling Shiny Objects comes Bump Mapping, or making objects and/or avatars appear to have raised and recessed areas. Setting this to 5 - 10 is good.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Max Particle Count: Depending on you Mac you can increase or decrease this. 2048 is a good option.

Adv. Graphics Tab > Outfit Composite Limit: This has to do with how many recent outfits your video card "remembers". If you change your avatar as often as you change your socks, 1 or 2 is fine. If you tend to change avatars mid-sentence, 4 or 5 is a good option.

~~Troubleshooting~~

Second Life stores it's cache files in the following location:
~/Library/Application Support/SecondLife (where ~ is your home folder)

Delete the whole cache folder every month or so to keep Second Life happy, or If you run into slow startups (SL hand icon bounces for a long time before displaying the SL window), strange texture issues and other things.

It is recommended not to run in full screen mode. It works for some but most find it to be more prone to crash.

AGP mode is recommended for all out-of-the-box Mac OS X-ready systems. Avatar Vertex Program should not be used on Macs with ATI video cards (all Powerbooks except the 17", all "iMac" G4 and G5 systems).

Run as few applications as possible while running Second Life, unless you have 1GB or more of RAM.

The Command/Cmd/Apple key is used to modify the mouse instead of the Control/Ctrl key in SL. This simulates the right-click on a PC mouse. You'll notice this will bring up the rotation rings. You can ignore them if you are clicking, they will not get in the way as of version 1.4.


Thanx to Brent Linden for giving permission to copy this :)
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Eloise Pasteur
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Join date: 14 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,952
05-06-2006 08:39
If you're using a DP or Dual Core mac - just like on a PC SL doesn't multithread. If you've got the RAM for it you can run just about anything you like on the other processor with no noticeable impact on SL.

I quite regularly run SL, Photoshop, Safari, Mail and Adium quite happily. SL chews all of one processor, the others run smoothly on the other processor.

Macs handle ripply water quite nicely - basically no slowdown, although if LL don't get their fingers out before Wednesday we won't be getting vertex shaders in 1.9.1 so this is time limited usefulness.
Sky McGann
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Join date: 9 Nov 2005
Posts: 80
I'd like that when it's completed
05-10-2006 10:40
From: Martin Mounier
I started to work on a Mac SL FAQ. Looking for Team Partners.
Martin, if you would please, pass that FAQ's notecard to me when you've completed it. I know you're spending more time on HI, but in the event that you're not there, I'd love to be able to assist a New Citizen on a Mac if possible. (I've used Mac's before so I have some familiarity with them.)
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Toy LaFollette
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Join date: 11 Feb 2004
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05-10-2006 10:45
A lot of Mac specific info for SL here...........

http://sl-help.game-host.org/TextSearch?phrase=mac
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