Inqy Wei
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Join date: 21 Feb 2007
Posts: 12
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08-07-2007 05:20
I originally posted this elsewhere - on a thread talking about the gambling ban in general - but maybe it belongs more appropriately in this forum!
All you sploder coders! You need to invent a new game that isn't anything like gambling but has a similar effect on people & also delivers revenues to the owner like Sploders do. How about this: "Auctioneer" - rules/principles are:
o Its an auction, not gambling & there are zero random elements. However, it IS competitive - as anyone who has ever made last minute bids on eBay can attest!
o You are bidding for a percentage of the sum of everyone's bids - the pot;
o Every bid must be higher than the previous one by some amount: say L$5 - & each time you bid, you pay that amount of money & it goes into the pot (so slightly different to a regular auction);
o It needs someone motivated to start things running - so the first bidder (regardless of amount bid - minium L$10 to make the maths easy) receives 20% of the final pot at the end of the auction. The "Auctioneer" owner gets a 10% 'administration' fee. The winning bidder gets the remaining 70%;
o The auction keeps running until there have been no bids for some specific time period (say 1 minute) - i.e a bit like playing poker - slowly everyone 'folds' as the bids get higher & higher, or they go home to bed!
o I suggest the auction has an initial period for everyone to start bidding - say 5 minutes. However, if anyone bids within the final minute, then the auction is extended by one more minute - ad infinitum, until more than a minute elapses - at which point the last (& highest) bidder wins & the auction closes.
So, in practice it might look like this:
AV1: Bid L$10 (Pot=L$10, Potential winnings=L$7 plus his L$2 for being the opening bidder) - 5 minute timer starts
No-one bids until the final minute. Then:
AV2: Bid 15 (Pot=25, potential winnings=18 - rounded-up, the round-down delta is taken from the owner payment, not the first bidder or winner payments);
AV3: Bid 20 (Pot=45, potential winnings=32)
AV4: Bid 25 (Pot=70, potential winnings=49)
AV5: Bid 30 (Pot=100, potential winnings=70)
AV1 (original bidder): Bid 100 to try to force people out (Pot=200, potential winnings=140 plus, if he wins, a further 20% as he was the first bidder = 40. Total for him=180 for a bid cost of 110)
AV2: Bid 105 (Pot=305, potential winnings=214)
etc.
It keeps going until people drop out, go home whatever & the last man standing, after 1 minute of no-bids, wins.
Not gambling I think! But fun & potentially lucrative for those with the best winning strategies plus an earner for the club owners.
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Inyur Orbit
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Join date: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 34
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08-07-2007 17:14
From: Inqy Wei I originally posted this elsewhere - on a thread talking about the gambling ban in general - but maybe it belongs more appropriately in this forum!
All you sploder coders! You need to invent a new game that isn't anything like gambling but has a similar effect on people & also delivers revenues to the owner like Sploders do. How about this: "Auctioneer" - rules/principles are:
o Its an auction, not gambling & there are zero random elements. However, it IS competitive - as anyone who has ever made last minute bids on eBay can attest!
o You are bidding for a percentage of the sum of everyone's bids - the pot;
o Every bid must be higher than the previous one by some amount: say L$5 - & each time you bid, you pay that amount of money & it goes into the pot (so slightly different to a regular auction);
o It needs someone motivated to start things running - so the first bidder (regardless of amount bid - minium L$10 to make the maths easy) receives 20% of the final pot at the end of the auction. The "Auctioneer" owner gets a 10% 'administration' fee. The winning bidder gets the remaining 70%;
o The auction keeps running until there have been no bids for some specific time period (say 1 minute) - i.e a bit like playing poker - slowly everyone 'folds' as the bids get higher & higher, or they go home to bed!
o I suggest the auction has an initial period for everyone to start bidding - say 5 minutes. However, if anyone bids within the final minute, then the auction is extended by one more minute - ad infinitum, until more than a minute elapses - at which point the last (& highest) bidder wins & the auction closes.
So, in practice it might look like this:
AV1: Bid L$10 (Pot=L$10, Potential winnings=L$7 plus his L$2 for being the opening bidder) - 5 minute timer starts
No-one bids until the final minute. Then:
AV2: Bid 15 (Pot=25, potential winnings=18 - rounded-up, the round-down delta is taken from the owner payment, not the first bidder or winner payments);
AV3: Bid 20 (Pot=45, potential winnings=32)
AV4: Bid 25 (Pot=70, potential winnings=49)
AV5: Bid 30 (Pot=100, potential winnings=70)
AV1 (original bidder): Bid 100 to try to force people out (Pot=200, potential winnings=140 plus, if he wins, a further 20% as he was the first bidder = 40. Total for him=180 for a bid cost of 110)
AV2: Bid 105 (Pot=305, potential winnings=214)
etc.
It keeps going until people drop out, go home whatever & the last man standing, after 1 minute of no-bids, wins.
Not gambling I think! But fun & potentially lucrative for those with the best winning strategies plus an earner for the club owners. Sounds alot like Bid Wars. By Nogard Codesmith http://www.slexchange.com//modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=106948
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Cloud Birge
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Join date: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 11
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09-04-2007 22:52
...Yeah and the richest person will always win and get wealthier. Heh, anyone could scam the crap out of that. All they'd need to do is wait around for big pots, then put all of their money into the pot. Someone good at math could determine if they'll make money from the pot (minus the 30% from the total) quite easy and always win if they're the richest person there. If a pot gets huge, the first person would be making quite a bit, as well, just off of 10L. I've seen sploders go up to 10,000L before.
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