WANTED: Slingo Without the Freeloaders!

Does anyone know of a Slingo area that may be invitiation only? Slingo is, in itself, enough self torture without adding a bunch of freeloaders and ungrateful winners that disappear after winning the pot. It would be nice to have a minimum donation of at least 25L and at least a give back of one fourth of the pot. A members only club would solve the trash problem, and leave the decent players only cussing out the Devil!

play for the fun of it. alot of people rely on slingo and similar games to by on their free accounts.

I am just suggesting a slingo place that is say for high rollers. There are a alot of other places the freeloaders can go!

How ironic to talk about players freeloading off a game that was copied from a patented game and makes a profit.

Thanks for the laugh.

instead of recoding the slingo game...... why not just put the game in a room and code access to the door entry ? - take about 20 seconds.

This is stupid, and one of the main reasons I don't play any of these games anymore, not only do people glare at you if you don't add into the pot, they also so if you don't give most of you win back too.

This ALSO belongs in Products WANTED NOT SL Games.

If people read the tag lines for certain forums, the SL Games forum is for...

Well...if you ever played the game...the only people that are making the money are the winners of the pot, not the so called "owners" of a patented game!

The games don't magically appear, they are purchased. Dominus has made quite a bit off of the game.

Have you found it yet Micki?????

Thank God YES!!!!!!!!!!! Gaming Plaza for all those of you that dont want freeloaders or those asses that run with the pot! Thank you LEE & CANDY!

I'd still like to know what the point of playing a game for money is if you don't actually "win" the pot..

I can see one or the other but not both. If I paid for the card, I want to keep the full pot.

If I have to give some winnings back into the pot, I shouldn't be required to buy a card (the give back money IS the card purchase).

Calling people names ("freeloaders" isn't going to help. What helps is two things. 1) Clearly documenting the card price and give back policy 2) Implementing the policy in LSL.

If you allow the game to be played for free, don't be surprised when people try to play for free.

If you allow the winner to keep all the winnings, don't be surprised when people keep all the winnings.

HP

Well lets say you win 850L from the pot and you put back in 200L. That leaves you with 650L more than you walked in with. Now if a dozen people were playing, and put in only 25L each, the pot would have only been at 300L, a 350L loss to you. So if everyone thought like you, the pot would never really be that big at all. But in most games, there are some very generous people that donate much more than 25L, and it really is courteous to give back when you do win the pot.

Hugsy---Again, I am asking for a place (which I found-see above), that has the same moral standards that I have when it comes to playing Slingo. And I believe that people that are playing for free when there is $ involved are called freeloaders, do you have another name? (Cheapskates could also apply). Regardless, there are lots of other places in SL that do not have rules and tolerate people that do not donate and run with the pot.

Gaming Plaza is good Hope to see you there while I'm hosting sometime.

We encourage a 25% donation of won pot to the next one..but don't complain if its a little less. I myself typically give back 50% especially while hosting.

I do not play Slingo, as I have heard there is very little skill involved. However, in Tringo, I have noticed that contributing a chunk of winnings to the pot tends to increase one's winnings, as other players tend to pitch in, also. When the winners walk away, people stop putting money in the pot, and the game soon becomes not worth playing.

But on the other hand, it is not much fun playing when there is no one to play against, so I don't mind a few freeloaders either.

Hi,

I'm in agreement with Barbara and I will expand it a little.

As a games owner (whether Slingo, Pizza, Greedy, whatever) you can see in the amount of people playing what happens when the winner leaves without contributing a high enough percentage back into the pot, players either leave or start contribuing less. Either way it kills the game until another player comes along and builds the pot again.

I feel very sorry for our visitors when I see in my transactions players who have put in L$100s only to be beaten by someone who has put in say L$10 or L$20 and then left immediately without putting anything back.

I would never force players to put in L$s to play (except where we advertise the game as Hi-Stakes and to sit down is L$500) but I do wish winners would put an appropriate amount (40-50%) back into the pot and tip their hosts. But that is my personal view and not one I would enforce upon others.

I would be interested to see here the views of other owners on this matter.

Thanks,


Lee

As someone that both runs games and plays them in other venues I see both sides of this.

That said I do firmly believe that 20-25% back into the next pot is quite adequate. With the average pot of 200L or less these days for alot of games. putting 50% back is a losing money proposition for the player if that have contributed to 5-6 pots they did not win. I for one would never ask my players to go in a hole to put back more in the next game.

Yes there are people that contribute nothing, as well as those that leave after winning. With only 50 allowed on the ban list there is very little that can be done about it. Verbally harrassing players as some places have done in the past is not somewhere I will go nor will I allow it on Dragon Isle.

Again, calling people derogatory names doesn't solve the problem. It's been a while since I read slingo instructions, but I don't recall where it said dontating to the pot was mandatory (although it may be suggested that you do).

I offered two solutions: 1) document the donation rules (clearly and exactly as in: "you will pay X lindens for a card and will win Y% of the pot) and 2) implement the donation rules in script.

If you don't do either one of those things and just leave the donations up to a wishy-washy "donate if you wan't to", then you must realize some people aren't going to donate. If you don't like when people do that, blame the person running the slingo.

It's not that I can't understand getting upset when someone 'runs off with the pot', but ultimately, why get pissed at people for violating rules that aren't even documented.

And just for the record, I wouldn't mind playing at a place where the rules were clearly defined and (better yet) implemented in script so you're forced to follow them. Let me know exactly how much I have to pay to play and exactly how much I'm going to win (then I can decide whether or not it's worth it). Cut the undefined, wishy-washy, "we'd like you donate whatever you can but, strictly speaking, you don't have to" bullshit.

(Yet there's still nothing wrong the rules-free places when I don't care what the pot is.)

HP

I totally agree the rules need to be documented. A sign above the Slingo board for everyone to see would be appropriate enough. Personally i have many times had to leave after winning a game and still put (usually 50%) a donation of my winnings back into the pot. I then leave and go about my business.

I agree also that 50% might be a little much to donate back but I suck at math and can figure out 50% of an amount alot easier that 40% or 25% so rather than have a calculator I just do 50%.

I also think that poofies shoud not be allowed at Slingo or games like that because they go off and block peoples cards from view. But that is another thread I suppose.

It's really easy to calculate 'round number' percentages.
Everyone can figure basic percents, even if you are not good at or just hate doing math.
Rounding is your friend.

Take the amount and drop the ones (right-most) digit.
You have just calculated 10%.
Example : 487 = 48

To get 20%, double the number.
Round it slightly and 48 becomes 50, so ~20% is 100.
48 + 48 = 96

5% is half of 10%, so divide by 2, rounding if you like, 48 = ~50, so half is 25.
Add that with your 20%, (100) voila, 25% (125).

Lower 'tens' percents (50% and below) are generally easiest to calculate, just figure 10% and add it however many times you need.

As I said, this is pretty easy, even if you really don't like math.
Next time you play a pot game, practice the calculations in your head, and with a calculator to be sure, for each game you play (whether you win or not) and you will get the hang of it pretty quickly.
You may not get proficient enough to just look at a number and 'see' the answer without really thinking about it, but it'll only take a few seconds.

I recently joined a group at Ice Dragons that has a high roller game of SLingo...it plays on Tues and Sat nights....the minimum is 100 to contribute to the pot.....Its a great idea....big pots to be had.

I call them LOSERS!