I would like to play for more then 5 minutes :(

Since the release of first look as the main viewer I have been unable to play for more then a few minutes without crashing. I have done everything possible to try to fix this, but the fact remains its a client crash and has to do with the client not me. When first look was in beta it worked better. There were some versions that were very bad but mostly it was a good viewer and I could use it all day if i wanted. Now my SL time is limited to short jaunts. I really can't interact with people and I have to warn everyone that I will crash.

The signs are now something I recognize with a client crash. The screen starts to flicker, streams of texture start to pour out of various objects and then there is a client crash.

Can this be fixed soon its really hard on the user experience to not actually be able to do anything save fly 10 meters and crash.

The computer is not an old computer and the graphics card is a reasonably decent one that I was going to upgrade because I thought it was the problem. I decided to see if i was broken first and its not

the computer is an AMD dual core processor 3.0 mhz, 1 gig of ram (yes i skimped), nvidia graphics card 7900 GTS 256 meg. From what I am reading if i upgraded to the new cards and added 1 more gig of ram this would do no good. So I am at a loss of what to do
as since the card is not broken it doesn't appear there is anything I can do to make my ingame experience last longer then 5 minutes

Try to mute sound in preferences. That made my client much more stable, believe it or not (ATI Radeon X300, Win XP x64).

It still hangs now and then, much more often than 1.15 (and 1.14 never hung). So SL still sucks.

Is it giving you a chance to submit crash reports? Hopefully they can track down the issue if enough people submit them, I know a few people who are suffering fairly frequent crashes as well.

Yes i submit about 67979897 crash reports per day actually. Although lately when i crash I go do something else and come back hours later. So my combined daily time on SL these days is maybe 15 minutes maximum. I used to be an SL junkie where I had the thing on for several hours in the evening. The crashed put an end to that hehe

Really? 786 crash reports a second? Wow...

One of the many uses of alts.

I have the same problem as you where I describe it as nearby prims explode on me and then SL closes...

I found that if I fly high enough, quickly enough as soon as I log in... I tend to remain in SL.

This is if I fly high enough to where I am no longer near any prims whatsoever.



As a result I'm alone floating in the sky and have to have my friends float with me if I want to visually interact with them ;P


Tried updating the driver's for my ATI X600 card but for some odd reason when I go to install it tells me that it can't find a driver for my hardware specs. Odd...


Gammy

Ah found out why I couldn't install new drivers for my ATI card... Apparently HP does a lil proprietary tweak to the driver on the laptop that I have. Pavillion zd8000. Friend talked me into trying rolling back my driver. Go to the HP webpage and reinstall the drivers that came with the laptop... the result... no more exploding prims

I got the same problem but instead of the client crashing, MY WHOLE FUCKING COMPUTER CRASHES WITH THE SAME FUCKING ERROR MESSAGE! It only pops up when I go on sl. I can run a game that is just the same as sl and i would run it great with no damn crashes. I got a ATI VisionTek Radion X1300 XGE Which is the most recent card from them that I could get my hands on and it was designed for vista. I am running XP. WTF IS GOING ON BETWEEN ATI AND SL?!

okay well that's a compatibility issue not a client issue two seperate things and I didn't create this thread to become a flame thread and get locked I created it in hopes that LL would or could provide feedback and maybe tell us when there is going to be a fix and I would appreciate if the thread remained unlocked flame free thanks

this is the client crashing to desktop which is something SL Client related and should be easility fixable I would think?

love trolls

lets see i have been playing sl an entire 5 minutes and crashed 5 times that's 1 client crash per minute that's my SL day how about yours and yes I have given up and am posting to a forum. I would say that is excessive would you not? and yes I have alts now well 1 at least because after every crash I can't login with my main so i get on an alt in an effort to attempt to continue what i am doing be it shopping or uploading or whatever (and no i didn't pay for the alt you see because well i'm having trouble remaining in the game and the alt was created as a result of the main being in a "being logged out state" 99% of the time) . I dont get out much in SL anymore and well its one reason I am presently a free account seeing as I can't actually play the game..... I went to a new build still under construction named gotham city last night and gave up in frustration after the 10th' client crash in a row I got down 1/4 of a street ... and that process took me close to half an hour to do

my 800 posts are a result of my crashes I get tired of crashing and so i come read the boards. SO if LL would like me off the forums and in the game maybe if they fix the client I wont post so much.

Before these client crashes I had less then 100 posts to these forums in an 8 month period...

I feel your pain, I crash constantly on my laptop, something it never used to do with the old view. Even on my Desktop i encounter issues that never happened.

I usually only play SL a few times a week, make some new items off line, get on check my store etc. And usually this is from my laptop when away from home. It's gotten so bad I don't even log on every week anymore. I find it just too frustrating an experience.

Chances are, when I use up the lindens I have stored from sales, payments and such. I'll just let my account wither away.

I don't find this fun at all.

well as of right now today i have officially been unable to get sl to run for more then a couple of seconds andyhow I guess I am out of the game I just made a new computer and its not better. The thing loads and i stand there watching all the flashing textures and then crashes to desktop it does this in the present official version and the new firstlook version. Its definately related to lighting but basically I can't go anywhere. I went out shopping again and well I never actually got to see anything I just crashed and crashed and crashed so here i am posting again with no solution I can think of waiting for something to change before I give up and leave totatlly. I'm renting land on an estate, but what good is it if i can't use it?

I'm off to play vanguard now even that runs on my computer and this wont

Join the club. I would be completely shocked if the devs or testers can even run the client without it crashing (assuming the software is actually tested before its released). The problem is that there are enough people putting money in LL's pockets that there is no incentive to create working software. Canceling your account is becoming the only option to more and more people every day.

I got the thing to work but everything is turned to low it makes no sense how can i play a game like vanguard with no problem and not this ?

Something or other isn't optimized or is leaking or just plain old broken I do know that I basically turned off ever feature that my graphics card supports including high detail terrain textures and the entire thing now works

so whatever it is again it makes no sense

Anyhow this is not a good "workaround" to run SL on the lowest beyong low settings of say a P3 or P4 with not enough ram and an extremely outdated card but its the only settings that works?

I also want to play SL and I dont want to cancel but when people are being left with no other option then to leave and go elsewhere due to compatibility issues something should be addressed

I highly doubt they testing anything, otherwise they would'n release junk after junk.

Yeah I'm in the same situation, and now my friend sent me message on yahoo that she is locked out too.

You have to ask yourself, why 45k+ ppls can get in game, and for the most part stay there, but some cannot? It has to be related to compatibility issues between OS, MB, GC, CPU etc combinations.
The more maunufacturers get into creating PC's, and software companies use 'workrounds' to make their product better than the next, virus's and adware all screwing with the system, firewalls being overly protective the list goes on and on, its suprising anyone can get anything to work.
The very nature of the PC open architecture has gone to wide. Maybe it's time to solidify a 'next generation' of the PC architecture... IBM wouldn't be interested.. Apple don't have the user base... ilkes of Amstrad have faded into the dust.... Are we all living on borrowed time?

Your nVidia card is more than up for the task, I use the 7950GT version which gives me on average between 50-100+fps, I do have 2gb ram, dual core AMD AM2 CPU, 2.2tb SATA II HD space (and still growing) on raid controllers and a 8mb connection. I believe the main reason I don't suffer even 10% of the issues I see on these forums, is because I'm old school.

I maintain my system, like I do my car. It has regular services, I check under the hood daily, I clean out the dross that builds up, I clean the registry and defrag my HD's, update OS, Bios, Drivers, even check my connections performance.

Buying a new PC and running it out of the box is not the way, even they need tweaking to make them run the programmes you want it to. We always assume 'nothing has changed' so it must be something else... well thats not true. Your OS and other programmes, firewalls, virus checkers, adware blockers, popup blockers, phising programmes are always changing things.. as you surf the internet, something is changing on your system... ALWAYS.

Clearing/cleaning the registry alone removes many issues with your system.. and for those that have never done so, even on a PC 6 months old, will find at least 50+ errors in that part of the OS alone, which is a central core programme to your system. Someone recently said on this forum, that he was running XP with no service packs or updates... never mentioned if his system was okay, but I wouldn't care to join systems with a peer to peer programme with him. I bet his car doesn't use any oil either LOL.

Hi Gammy

Try this:

http://www.driverheaven.net/modtool/

It does work - I had to use it to install the latest ATI drivers (for Radeon Mobility 9700) on my laptop to get SL to work on a fresh Vista install - Works great.

Gomez

Well, if the thing would be so uncompatible then Guild wars, Lineage, WoW, Halflife2 and more of the games my ex-boyfreind kept and played here would have had same issues. Since I see many-many complains from ATI owners, I certainly think that SL has a problem with this type of card.

A problem that IS NOT OUR DUTY TO RESOLVE BUT LINDEN LAB's!

They are rushing things and want new stuff out while the old stuff still stinks. I didn't see any other company that would treat this so irresponsably badly. I mean, all online games have updates and patches, but they come out with new stuff when they are SURE THINGS ARE WORKING FLAWLESSLY IN THE CURRENT VERSION.

Also I don't think my current mashine is so outdated that would need a hardware change since I can flawlessly play other games. I KNOW THEY MIGHT BE DIRECT X
NOT OPEN GL. But to tell you the truth... I DON"T CARE.

If I need to choose where I spend my money I will choose a game. USUALLY ONE THAT WORKS AND TREATS CUSTOMERS WITH RESPECT. I don't care about the tech stuff. There are ways to make things work, like LOD and AA, and Anisotropic Filtering... and I don't know anything about them. I DON"T NEED TO. And I don't want to. It's not my job to know about them.

What I must know is that if they say that the specs are: A machine, B ram, C video card and I have above that... then IT SHOULD WORK.

Yes I agree not to play on max settings. I don't care about them anyway.

BUT I MUST BE ABLE TO LOGIN AND PLAY FLAWLESSLY.

Wilhelm, it looks like you've done a bunch of research and I bet you've done all the standard workarounds ... one thing that really helped my lame laptop a lot was disabling all the applications that could do a "toast" or popup of any kind, particularly McAfee. I was able to leave up my firewall. Probably because the client is running near borderline on my laptop anyway, any interrupt by another application tended to crash it.

Also, have you checked out making SL run on one core, runs faster and therefore prolly more reliably (probably for cache coherency reasons):
http://secondlife.com/devdown/detail.php?pid=00000013

I think this is very odd, your system should be able to handle SL. Maybe you have some particular app running all the time ... perhaps a desktop indexer? ... that the client is incompatible with?

Ordella, you are absolutely right.... just because you own/drive a car, doesn't mean you need to have a mechanics degree. As long as you service it regularily, check the oil, tyre pressures blah blah... But my point is this:
So many people have no clue the complexities of the PC, and a very very large portion do not even carryout basic checks or 'servicing'. If (using the car analogy) you had the facility to change to a different manufacturers engine, or gearbox, add odd size tyres to different wheels etc (which resembles the open architecture of the PC), then never service the car, or check everything was working ok (this excludes virus's, adware, trojans, keyloggers, bandwidth stealers, broadcasting unicaster peer to peer hijackers) then you can expect only a certain life from that car.

But cars dont surf the open internet, contract nasty unknown programmes, have their owners click OK without reading the instructions/agreements, have 3rd parties writting code for a single element that is 'suposed' to be fully compliant with every possible combination thrown at it and expect it to work flawlessly with everyone elses code.

I agree that a vast majority of games load and play out of the box, but you are on a merry go round, you do not have the freedom to create millions of variables, upload elements into the game for others to share, change the dynamics of the game on the fly, or make a lot of money. Your interaction with those games that are 'out of the box' is predictable and limited.

Same problem here. I have played SL since 2004.. same computer same video card.. and then BANG! after Last Wed..June 6 best time I can pinpoint. My whole game went all to hell. only place I can relatively be is on my property home. Cant venture out to stores or aronund maybe more than 3 or 4 avies.. or Poof* I go. WTH!!! I find you and I are not alone. With this much of a problem.. wouldnt you think THEY! would take a closer look? One day THEY! are going to look up and say, "Where Have All The People Gone?"

Since I downloaded 1.17012 version of Main grid I can't use SL longtime. I crash a lot of time or my computer restart or freeze. Don't understand why. Before with older version I could use SL all time without freeze or restarting. This happen only when I use SL not other software. Some people have same problem like this ?