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wtf happened with this update?

dodo Skjellerup
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Join date: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 13
12-05-2006 18:17
Alot of good things that I'm now seeing!

Wasn't able to get on earlier and was really erked .. but all is well now!
Lord Kaos
Linux User
Join date: 1 Oct 2005
Posts: 34
12-05-2006 18:40
try clearing your cache, or even completely reinstalling the game
SuezanneC Baskerville
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Join date: 22 Dec 2003
Posts: 14,229
12-05-2006 19:04
You might want to not just reinstall the game, but do a complete uninstall before re-installing.

If you have the Beta (Aditi) or the Feature Viewer installed you might want to uninstall them as well before reinstalling the latest regular main grid version.

And when you start up, try starting somewhere different than where you have had the problems at.
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Graham Flasheart
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Join date: 16 Oct 2006
Posts: 6
Clear Cache
12-14-2006 15:42
As Clear Cache seems to be an almost universal requirement to ensure stability after update , certainly where it is a major change to key cacheable features it would seem sensible that this is automatically done during the update rather than relying on 1.9 million (lol) users understanding the need to do this (without even being told explicity as part of patch process to do so). Yes we all talk about it in forums but I dont beleive yet that forums have ever had even the smallest percentage of that figure accessing it.

A constant complaint from Linden Labs is that we are not testing there software adaquately to ensure updates are stable . That may be a fair point if debateable as a stance for a commercial product to take. Perhaps they are used to working in the open software market where that sort of theory and practise works ( rather well). I dont think LL have any plans to open source there clientware ( or server) , so they do have to take responsibility for the testing of there product and here I think without a doubt there is no excuse .

It is quite easy to get a list of changes that have been made to a code build and for someone to assess those changes versus data that may be stored in the cache. if it does then clear cache should be flicked ON for the next client restart. I do have to say I am growing a little more than concerned at the level of version control we are seeing from Linden Labs and the fact that this is not already the case only increases that .Sadly everything we see from the apolgistic approach they are adopting with us , the users , makes me suspicious that such a pre-release co-ordination is either not happening or not being done with sufficient vigour and professionalism and there is no one there who is taking ownership of this problem.

I know we all like to give these guys a break and all that . But accepting excuses is not really in the best interests of the future of SL or LL . I assume that they ,like us, what this product to be the best ? ergo they have to accept responsibility for the mess I would be more than concerned if they were not internally roasting some people at LL central and even firing some of them over this . I really dont expect them to wash there dirty linen in public here but I would imagine the produect release manager is currently being hauled through the coals and told to get his act in gear or hes out on his ear.

We can all talk about community and all that sort of stuff .. but when Linden Labs start quoting that I get very very worried indeed .. I immediately have thoughts of The Village or The Prisoner . When the government start telling me they are just one of the people too and that they undestand my plight rather than damn well do something about it I immediately think .. goddamit I must vote for the other side next time :)

SL is ambitiously tapping up the corporate world at this time .. great .. but without adopting the professional ruthlessness internally to make a strong product that does not compromise there precious branding they will be kicked out on the street again without a goodbye .

Oh my god I am in ranting mood today .. all that from a question about caching :)
cinda Hoodoo
my 2cents worth
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 951
i kinda see both sides
12-14-2006 15:57
BUTTTT...i work for a company that a couple years ago started a zero tolerance for screw ups, ok it was hard at first, everyone had a hard time getting in sync, but looking back, i think its the best thing that could have ever happened to us. A lot of screw ups cant be helped, bad information, bad timing, a customer that's a royal biotch, but anything due to laziness, or "i just didn't feel like making sure that call was returned" etc is absolutely not tolerated.
I guess that's why i have such a hard time seeing why when things worked good in one update, how can they be so screwed up in the next update. Am sure that maybe new ways are being used to take care of different parts of SL, but still i have a hard time thinking that the team is not behind each other, being sure all is working well before it hits the main grid. The one thing i really love about our company now is our pride, we are the best at what we do, because were required to be. It is not uncommon for our customers now to write letters to the news media about how well we handle service, and our business, it is a great feeling. Btw we were told at our Christmas party today we increased our business by double this year, don't think we didn't all stand up and thank each other.
So enuff of my preaching, go out and do well programmers, don't hide your talent behind mistakes :)