Notecard check is messing up new-user friendliness

The new rules for keeping/discarding notecards seem to be causing some trouble to new users.

Last version, when you clicked on an information stand on Help Island, it would give you a notecard with the appropriate information. This version, it gives you a Keep/Discard prompt - which many new users have no idea what to do with.

And leaving Help Island is even worse. Here's how it used to work:
1) You click on the plinth.
2) It gives you a notecard explaining the whole leaving Help Island dealie.
3) It gives you a dialog with options to "Stay" or "Leave".
4) You click to Leave.
5) It gives you a landmark, which has the effect of popping up a nice window with a "teleport" button right there for you to click on.

Here's how it works now:
1) You click on the plinth.
2) You get a Keep/Discard dialog for the information notecard.
3) This dialog is immediately covered up by the "Stay" or "Leave" dialog.
4) You click to Leave.
5) It gives you a landmark, which has the effect of.. giving you another Keep/Discard option.

ANY item which gave out a notecard as a prelude to displaying a Dialog, in order to explain the necessary options, will now probably not work so well - as the notecard give will result in a Keep/Discard dialog which is covered up by the scripted one.

I understand that these were created to prevent spam, but how about a specification that a notecard or landmark can be auto-accepted in the previous way provided:
a) It is given by an object
b) It is given in the handler for a user-initiated event (touch etc.)
c) It is the first time a notecard/landmark has been given in the event run
This would fix a lot of items that were using this as a user interface.

1.17.0.12 Notecards considered as spam
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I second this, and i don't understand how Linden could not have seen that it breaks its own islands experience. Poor integration again.

Answer: this is configurable in the Preferences. However, newcomers will NOT configure it before reaching welcome areas.

The old behaviour is preferable for:

- Telehub greeters: you want to check the rules (especially important in RP areas) but you don't want to keep it into your inventory.

- Educational areas: lots of giver to click, lot of beginners, a one-step process is certainly better than a two-step.

The new behaviour is preferable when:

- Scripting or Busy: i don't want windows to pup-up on my screen. Even blue dialogs. DEFERRED DELIVERY SOULD BE USED WHEN BUSY (same behaviour than when offline).

- Folder Spam: you probably never want 100 windows on your screen, so SILENT DELIVERY SHOULD BE USED WHEN A FOLDER IS GIVEN (sams behaviour than llGiveInventoryList).

Who takes the pain to JIRA now?

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1251

Feel free to edit. I just copied both of your comments directly into it.

yeah, there have been times I go to click accept and another blue box covers up the accept button with something I never had a chance to see until it is too late and I end up clicking the wrong button, pretty lame...

Thanks Draco for the JIRA. I think we should come with some solid suggestion about a "proper" behaviour to handle given items. The goal is to avoid spam. But what is spam?

The most harmful i've seen is being given a full folder of textures. Each texture would open in its own window. Once upon a time, I had been given a 1000+ textures folder and my screen was... well, you imagine. Seems that accross some version, this changed to multiple textures in a single browser window. In the current version, giving a folder does not open a preview (even if Automatically view after accepting is enabled). And there is a (rather stupid) limit to 42 items in a folder. So, i don't see the spam in this case.

Is there a possibility to spam by selecting multiple items then dropping them at once? I've tried today: only one item is given. Problematic also (the sender thinks he sent 5 items, the receiver had one), but no spam this way.

A FOLDER TRANSFER DOES NOT OPEN A PREVIEW.
A MULTIPLE ITEM TRANSFER OPEN ONLY ONE PREVIEW.

Did i miss something?

In these conditions, what is the advantage of the blue dialog over the keep/discard mechanism? I see really none. Worst, i see a big disadvantage: I cannot preview before I take the keep/discard decision, so i have to accept, preview, and oops it's too late to reject, i have to cleanup things manually now if i decide i don't want to keep them. Bad logic.

I think it's mostly objects, as they can sent one item at a time much much faster than a person (even without mono).

Which means we get into the problem with help island.

I personally don't want to see the blue dialog avoided if the object only sends one texture/notecard because of Island Greeters that hit me with the rules ever time, now that we have the blue dialog I can mute that object and not have to worry about reading the rules yet again.

OTOH Help Island once-pers need to avoid the dialog.

You are trading a notecard spam for a dialog spam, here.

This also causes the blue dialog to appear when getting textures out of a texture viewer.

This is very annoying as now have to accept the texture rather than just using it then disgarding.

This adds a lot of inconvenience to using a texture viewer as also need find and delete the extra textures from inventory instead of just clearing deleted items after use.