Why change the friends list button layout?

Is anyone else irratated that the friends list buttons have been changed around? "Add Friend" is in place of "Offer Teleport" moved up to the top then the IM button moved to the bottom left corner and "Pay" button has been removed? I realize that they had to move things around due to adding another button (Add Friend) but wouldn't it have made more sense to keep "Offer Teleport" and "IM" in the same locations, making "Add Friend" a shorter button (it does not need that large of a button). Then put "add a friend in the bottom left corner (where IM is currently) and put "Pay" between "IM" and profile. So esecially like this:

Profile Pay IM
Offer Teleport Remove
Add Friend Grant Modify Rights

And if "Add Friend" doesn't fit (it looks like it will though....just) in that spot...how about just "Add"?

Seems like this would be a much improved layout and closer to the original, which is quite frankly easier on us residents than shuffling the buttons around like cards (not to mention removing the "Pay" button).

-DB

I have noticed another change in its behavior. It uses to be if you double clicked on a friend you would pop up the IM window. Now when you double click you get the profile.

I want the Pay button back too.
Thuogh I'd make a slight change to your button layout:

Profile Pay IM
Offer Teleport Grant Modify Rights
Add Friend Remove

The middle line would probably need some wording adjustment, but now "add friend" and "remove friend" are next to each other.




Woot, how useless (though admittedly I did double click on the old version expecting the profile on occation).

Yes the add friend-remove right next to each other would work except Offer Teleport and Grand modify rights won't fit together as both buttons are too long. And I am not sure what else they could label them that would clearly state what they do. But I doubt any changes will take place anyway.

-DB

Don't Know why they do the thing that they do.
After playing with the XML file for a half hour I got this
Friends Layout

So there is plenty of room to play with

As you can see editing these layouts take very littlt time now. But every time there is an update there goes my current config. What was really weird is the pay button was commented out for some reason. it seems to work. So maybe they will add it back soon. Maybe they are just wanting to hear user input and what they want.

EDIT: darn it forgot to remove the "..."
Much better... and change the min width fron 250 to 200
Friends Layout2

If you would like to try these changes. Replace the code in the "floater_friends.xml" with this. you don't even have to restart SL. Just close the Friends list and open it back up. WARNING: if you blow up your client don't look at me, look at your mouse for selecting paste.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<floater
	name="friends"
	title="Friends"
	can_resize="true"
	can_minimize="true"
	can_close="true"
	can_drag_on_left="false"
	rect_control="FloaterFriendsRect"
	min_width="170"
	min_height="200"
	>
	<scroll_list
	   name="friend_list"
		left="1"
		right="-1"
		top="-20"
		bottom="80"
		follows="top|bottom|left|right"
	   />
	<button
		name="profile_btn"
		label="Profile"
		tool_tip="Show picture, groups, and other information"
		left="5"
		bottom_delta="-25"
		width="55"
		height="20"
		font="SansSerifSmall"
		follows="bottom|left"
		/>
	<button
		name="add_btn"
		label="Add"
		tool_tip="Offer friendship to a resident"
		left="65"
		bottom_delta="0"
		width="40"
		height="20"
		font="SansSerifSmall"
		follows="bottom|left"
		/>
	<button
		name="remove_btn"
		label="Remove"
		tool_tip="Remove this person from your friends list"
		left="110"
		bottom_delta="0"
		width="60"
		height="20"
		font="SansSerifSmall"
		follows="bottom|left"
		/>

	<button
		name="im_btn"
		label="IM"
		tool_tip="Open Instant Message session"
		left="5"
		bottom_delta="-25"
		width="30"
		height="20"
		font="SansSerifSmall"
		follows="bottom|left"
		/>
	
	<button
		name="grant_btn"
		label="Grant Modify Rights"
		left="40"
		bottom_delta="0"
		width="128"
		height="20"
		tool_tip="Allow this user to modify your objects"
		font="SansSerifSmall"
		follows="bottom|left"
		/>
	<button
		name="revoke_btn"
		label="Revoke Modify Rights"
		left_delta="0"
		bottom_delta="0"
		width="128"
		height="20"
		tool_tip="Allow this user to modify your objects"
		font="SansSerifSmall"
		follows="bottom|left"
		/>
	<button
		name="pay_btn"
		label="Pay"
		tool_tip="Give Linden dollars (L$) to this friend"
		left="5"
		bottom_delta="-25"
		width="35"
		height="20"
		font="SansSerifSmall"
		follows="bottom|left"
		/>
	<button
		name="offer_teleport_btn"
		label="Offer Teleport"
		tool_tip="Offer this friend a teleport to your current location"
		left="45"
		bottom_delta="0"
		width="90"
		height="20"
		font="SansSerifSmall"
		follows="bottom|left"
		/>
</floater>

That UI2 looks pretty good.
Think I will borrow your XML code.

This has got to be a temp. fix - please find the person at LL who just decided to change how this bit of the UI worked and send them to the naughty corner.

*sigh* I hate it when they 'fix' things that weren't broken, yet seem to ignore all the things that plainly are...

Gearsawe, I put your XML code into my floater_friends.xml file and it didn't change my friends list button layout--not even after a relog. :-\

I've tried it on both pf my systems. Are you over writing all the code that was in there? Did you hit save in the editor that you used(that one usuals get me)? Use Notepad or some other Texteditor for code.

Yes.
Ctrl-A, ctrl-C, alt-tab, ctrl-A, ctrl-V, ctrl-S, alt-F4.

And I did it again when it didn't work the first time. And then I did a compair and checked to see that the code was the same.

I actually like that change. But yea suddenly changing things tends to irritate most people.

Thx for the code snippet gear. I once messed with it myself and was able to make my friends list very slim with buttons in a order to my liking, but the recent change would make me have to redo all that hehe.

Ah ha!
There are two folds contianing the xml files, you want to edit the ones in SecondLife>>skins>>xui>>en-us

Not sure what the ones in app_settings are. Those don't seem to do anything. Backup copies left behind? Actually those look like the old setup from 1.12.0

Ah ha. I'll make the change right away.