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Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

11-20-2005 02:21

Unsung heroine but I'll sing her praises... CTRL-ALT-D brings up yer DEBUG menu and then press CTRL-SHIFT-9 or just select FAST TIMERS from it.

WOWZA.

If you've never seen the Fast Timers before, this still looks awesome. I've likened it to something almost Star Trek LCARSish in the past, and it's a gross improvement over 1.6's more flat, personalityless display. Even if you don't know what all the numbers mean, you can just watch the pretty lights go by.

Are there better guides on how to read this kitty? I know the very top colored bar is an average that balances out over time.

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Davan Camus

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Join date: 13 Sep 2005

Posts: 67

11-20-2005 10:46

Ah hahahaha

Torley, your delight at all the little things is... truly inspirational. Thanks for being!

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Nathan Stewart

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Join date: 2 Feb 2005

Posts: 1,039

11-20-2005 11:05

From: Torley Torgeson

Unsung heroine but I'll sing her praises... CTRL-ALT-D brings up yer DEBUG menu and then press CTRL-SHIFT-9 or just select FAST TIMERS from it.

WOWZA.

If you've never seen the Fast Timers before, this still looks awesome. I've likened it to something almost Star Trek LCARSish in the past, and it's a gross improvement over 1.6's more flat, personalityless display. Even if you don't know what all the numbers mean, you can just watch the pretty lights go by.

Are there better guides on how to read this kitty? I know the very top colored bar is an average that balances out over time.

Yes very cool, heres another bit to it, click on it while its scrolling and it will pause then move your mouse across one of the bars, notice it highlight one of the various functions down the side, this will tell you how many ms is being spent on what, you can also move your mouse up and down the colored boxes/functions to display them on the timers, if you click them you will remove them from the timer display and then click back in the display to scroll without that fasttimer to help narrow down problems.

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Malachi Petunia

Gentle Miscreant

Join date: 21 Sep 2003

Posts: 3,414

11-20-2005 11:40

Good to know where all of the UI effort is going at least. Hey, new user, check out this spiffy debug interface that artistically shows you why the game isn't working. Oooh, blinky!

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Nathan Stewart

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Join date: 2 Feb 2005

Posts: 1,039

11-20-2005 11:49

From: Malachi Petunia

Good to know where all of the UI effort is going at least. Hey, new user, check out this spiffy debug interface that artistically shows you why the game isn't working. Oooh, blinky!

That or the fact that the extra functionality in debug helped actually debug a problem with image decode and image creategl, which was fixed in 1.7.2

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Torley Linden

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Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

11-20-2005 12:21

Glad ya think so Davan... it's what I live for. That's just the way I experience my life, and Second Life!

Nathan, that's really cool. I like clicking on a bar and watching it throb and pulse.

These bars are easier to read, my feeling is with all the colors and dynamics, it makes troubleshooting more fun and a little less painful for those who are ghastly afraid of, whelp, most diagnostic displays.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

11-20-2005 14:31

I hate the rounded corners on things such as bar graphs, I don't like it anywhere.

Was there any functional change or just rounding the corners and using garish colors?

I hate rounded buttons on scroll bars, rounded corners on progress bars, etc.

I don't find this display easy to read, although it may just be that there is no really good way to display so much information at one time.

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Laukosargas Svarog

Angel ?

Join date: 18 Aug 2004

Posts: 1,304

11-20-2005 15:00

I'd be interested if anyone else can confirm something I see happen on a regular basis ...

pre-bug report discussion ...

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Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

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11-20-2005 15:10

Aye, Lauk... will do.

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The new 1.7 Fast Timers is seriously kewl
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	11-20-2005 02:21 Unsung heroine but I'll sing her praises... CTRL-ALT-D brings up yer DEBUG menu and then press CTRL-SHIFT-9 or just select FAST TIMERS from it. WOWZA. If you've never seen the Fast Timers before, this still looks awesome. I've likened it to something almost Star Trek LCARSish in the past, and it's a gross improvement over 1.6's more flat, personalityless display. Even if you don't know what all the numbers mean, you can just watch the pretty lights go by. Are there better guides on how to read this kitty? I know the very top colored bar is an average that balances out over time. _____________________
Davan Camus Registered User Join date: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 67	11-20-2005 10:46 Ah hahahaha Torley, your delight at all the little things is... truly inspirational. Thanks for being! _____________________ Visit Cubes at Alice 100,18. -------------------------------------------------- Davan Camus, born: 2005 September 8 Out-world location: Santa Cruz, CA UI Proposal: http://davancamus.hexaflexagon.com/blog/?p=39
Nathan Stewart Registered User Join date: 2 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,039	11-20-2005 11:05 From: Torley Torgeson Unsung heroine but I'll sing her praises... CTRL-ALT-D brings up yer DEBUG menu and then press CTRL-SHIFT-9 or just select FAST TIMERS from it. WOWZA. If you've never seen the Fast Timers before, this still looks awesome. I've likened it to something almost Star Trek LCARSish in the past, and it's a gross improvement over 1.6's more flat, personalityless display. Even if you don't know what all the numbers mean, you can just watch the pretty lights go by. Are there better guides on how to read this kitty? I know the very top colored bar is an average that balances out over time. Yes very cool, heres another bit to it, click on it while its scrolling and it will pause then move your mouse across one of the bars, notice it highlight one of the various functions down the side, this will tell you how many ms is being spent on what, you can also move your mouse up and down the colored boxes/functions to display them on the timers, if you click them you will remove them from the timer display and then click back in the display to scroll without that fasttimer to help narrow down problems. _____________________
Malachi Petunia Gentle Miscreant Join date: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 3,414	11-20-2005 11:40 Good to know where all of the UI effort is going at least. Hey, new user, check out this spiffy debug interface that artistically shows you why the game isn't working. Oooh, blinky! _____________________
Nathan Stewart Registered User Join date: 2 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,039	11-20-2005 11:49 From: Malachi Petunia Good to know where all of the UI effort is going at least. Hey, new user, check out this spiffy debug interface that artistically shows you why the game isn't working. Oooh, blinky! That or the fact that the extra functionality in debug helped actually debug a problem with image decode and image creategl, which was fixed in 1.7.2 _____________________
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	11-20-2005 12:21 Glad ya think so Davan... it's what I live for. That's just the way I experience my life, and Second Life! Nathan, that's really cool. I like clicking on a bar and watching it throb and pulse. These bars are easier to read, my feeling is with all the colors and dynamics, it makes troubleshooting more fun and a little less painful for those who are ghastly afraid of, whelp, most diagnostic displays. _____________________
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	11-20-2005 14:31 I hate the rounded corners on things such as bar graphs, I don't like it anywhere. Was there any functional change or just rounding the corners and using garish colors? I hate rounded buttons on scroll bars, rounded corners on progress bars, etc. I don't find this display easy to read, although it may just be that there is no really good way to display so much information at one time. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Laukosargas Svarog Angel ? Join date: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 1,304	11-20-2005 15:00 I'd be interested if anyone else can confirm something I see happen on a regular basis ... pre-bug report discussion ... .
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	11-20-2005 15:10 Aye, Lauk... will do. _____________________

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