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Carnildo Greenacre

Flight Engineer

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,044

03-03-2005 22:35

Well, 1.6 causes some serious problems with Linux:
1) The installer is still a pain to work with. Same problem as always: "You can't install this as a limited user", since the DLL to detect user level doesn't get installed properly
2) The crash reporter still doesn't work with Linux: it crashes and takes WineX down with it
3) The big one: the first screen shows up black for me. All the controls are there and functional, but I can't see them. SL 1.5 doesn't do this.

I'll be checking it in Win98SE soon.

Has anyone successfully run SL 1.6 preview under Linux?

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Psyke Phaeton

Psyke's Defense Systems

Join date: 12 Oct 2003

Posts: 197

03-04-2005 01:56

I'll give it a go when i get home

Psyke Phaeton

Psyke's Defense Systems

Join date: 12 Oct 2003

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OMG! Can it be true????

03-04-2005 02:08

From: someone

Some good points.

Part of the reason for the new color picker is to move away from OS specific components. This will allow us to port to more platforms such as Linux.

You *can* save colors. The set of predefines along the bottom can be changed by dragging the current color swatch onto one of the predefines. Any colors you set to custom will save through sessions.
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Karsten Rutledge

Linux User

Join date: 8 Feb 2005

Posts: 841

03-04-2005 10:10

I plan to try 1.6 as soon as I get home tonight. I've been running 1.5.x under a default installation of WineX. I'm not sure what you mean by 'installer is STILL a pain' and 'crash report STILL doesn't work.' As I recall, the installer for 1.5 worked flawlessly. I never got the 'limited user' problem.

I've only had SL crash on me a couple of times over the month or so I've been using it, but I've deliberately not been sending crash reports since it's running under unsupported emulation anyway. It seems kind of silly to complain about crashes under those circumstances. I would direct any problems you're having with it to the folks at TransGaming, rather than LL. When LL finally comes out with a native Linux client, then we can cry to them about problems.

The biggest concern I have is whether QuickTime will function under WineX, that should be an interesting experiment.

I'll post the results of trying 1.6 on Linux tonight or tomorrow in this thread.

Psyke Phaeton

Psyke's Defense Systems

Join date: 12 Oct 2003

Posts: 197

Linux + SL 1.6 = Black Screen

03-04-2005 14:06

From: Carnildo Greenacre

Well, 1.6 causes some serious problems with Linux:
1) The installer is still a pain to work with. Same problem as always: "You can't install this as a limited user", since the DLL to detect user level doesn't get installed properly

installer worked ok for me (but never did list the "whats new" in a window)

From: someone

2) The crash reporter still doesn't work with Linux: it crashes and takes WineX down with it

Who cares

as if LL wants crash info from wine!

From: someone

3) The big one: the first screen shows up black for me. All the controls are there and functional, but I can't see them. SL 1.5 doesn't do this.

CONFIRMED!! LL you broke it under winex/linux!!!

from my log:
2005-03-04T21:46:43Z INFO LLAudioEngine_FMOD::init() initializing FMOD
2005-03-04T21:46:43Z INFO LLAudioEngine_FMOD::init() FMOD initialized correctly
2005-03-04T21:46:43Z INFO Initializing QuickTime
2005-03-04T21:46:52Z INFO Stopping GL during changeDisplaySettings
2005-03-04T21:46:52Z INFO Shutting down GL...
2005-03-04T21:46:52Z INFO Remaining allocated texture memory: 0 bytes
2005-03-04T21:46:52Z INFO resetDisplayResolution START

Carnildo Greenacre

Flight Engineer

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,044

03-04-2005 23:38

Well, Win98SE doesn't work either. Good thing I got WinXP working last month -- it's the only way I can try the preview.

The problem with the installer is that, if I don't do some futzing around in the temp directory partway through the install, it'll decide I'm running a "limited" user and will refuse to install.

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perl -le '$_ = 1; (1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/ && print while $_++;'

Psyke Phaeton

Psyke's Defense Systems

Join date: 12 Oct 2003

Posts: 197

03-05-2005 01:35

From: Carnildo Greenacre

Well, Win98SE doesn't work either. Good thing I got WinXP working last month -- it's the only way I can try the preview.

The problem with the installer is that, if I don't do some futzing around in the temp directory partway through the install, it'll decide I'm running a "limited" user and will refuse to install.

in wine config make your temp directory be on a FAT partition.

Carnildo Greenacre

Flight Engineer

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,044

03-05-2005 23:15

From: Psyke Phaeton

in wine config make your temp directory be on a FAT partition.

The temp directory and working directory are both FAT32 partitions.

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Carnildo Greenacre Flight Engineer Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,044	03-03-2005 22:35 Well, 1.6 causes some serious problems with Linux: 1) The installer is still a pain to work with. Same problem as always: "You can't install this as a limited user", since the DLL to detect user level doesn't get installed properly 2) The crash reporter still doesn't work with Linux: it crashes and takes WineX down with it 3) The big one: the first screen shows up black for me. All the controls are there and functional, but I can't see them. SL 1.5 doesn't do this. I'll be checking it in Win98SE soon. Has anyone successfully run SL 1.6 preview under Linux? _____________________ perl -le '$_ = 1; (1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/ && print while $_++;'
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	03-04-2005 01:56 I'll give it a go when i get home
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	OMG! Can it be true???? 03-04-2005 02:08 From: someone Some good points. Part of the reason for the new color picker is to move away from OS specific components. This will allow us to port to more platforms such as Linux. You can save colors. The set of predefines along the bottom can be changed by dragging the current color swatch onto one of the predefines. Any colors you set to custom will save through sessions. __________________ - Kelly Linden quoted from: /142/4a/37581/1.html
Karsten Rutledge Linux User Join date: 8 Feb 2005 Posts: 841	03-04-2005 10:10 I plan to try 1.6 as soon as I get home tonight. I've been running 1.5.x under a default installation of WineX. I'm not sure what you mean by 'installer is STILL a pain' and 'crash report STILL doesn't work.' As I recall, the installer for 1.5 worked flawlessly. I never got the 'limited user' problem. I've only had SL crash on me a couple of times over the month or so I've been using it, but I've deliberately not been sending crash reports since it's running under unsupported emulation anyway. It seems kind of silly to complain about crashes under those circumstances. I would direct any problems you're having with it to the folks at TransGaming, rather than LL. When LL finally comes out with a native Linux client, then we can cry to them about problems. The biggest concern I have is whether QuickTime will function under WineX, that should be an interesting experiment. I'll post the results of trying 1.6 on Linux tonight or tomorrow in this thread.
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	Linux + SL 1.6 = Black Screen 03-04-2005 14:06 From: Carnildo Greenacre Well, 1.6 causes some serious problems with Linux: 1) The installer is still a pain to work with. Same problem as always: "You can't install this as a limited user", since the DLL to detect user level doesn't get installed properly installer worked ok for me (but never did list the "whats new" in a window) From: someone 2) The crash reporter still doesn't work with Linux: it crashes and takes WineX down with it Who cares as if LL wants crash info from wine! From: someone 3) The big one: the first screen shows up black for me. All the controls are there and functional, but I can't see them. SL 1.5 doesn't do this. CONFIRMED!! LL you broke it under winex/linux!!! from my log: 2005-03-04T21:46:43Z INFO LLAudioEngine_FMOD::init() initializing FMOD 2005-03-04T21:46:43Z INFO LLAudioEngine_FMOD::init() FMOD initialized correctly 2005-03-04T21:46:43Z INFO Initializing QuickTime 2005-03-04T21:46:52Z INFO Stopping GL during changeDisplaySettings 2005-03-04T21:46:52Z INFO Shutting down GL... 2005-03-04T21:46:52Z INFO Remaining allocated texture memory: 0 bytes 2005-03-04T21:46:52Z INFO resetDisplayResolution START
Carnildo Greenacre Flight Engineer Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,044	03-04-2005 23:38 Well, Win98SE doesn't work either. Good thing I got WinXP working last month -- it's the only way I can try the preview. The problem with the installer is that, if I don't do some futzing around in the temp directory partway through the install, it'll decide I'm running a "limited" user and will refuse to install. _____________________ perl -le '$_ = 1; (1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/ && print while $_++;'
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	03-05-2005 01:35 From: Carnildo Greenacre Well, Win98SE doesn't work either. Good thing I got WinXP working last month -- it's the only way I can try the preview. The problem with the installer is that, if I don't do some futzing around in the temp directory partway through the install, it'll decide I'm running a "limited" user and will refuse to install. in wine config make your temp directory be on a FAT partition.
Carnildo Greenacre Flight Engineer Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,044	03-05-2005 23:15 From: Psyke Phaeton in wine config make your temp directory be on a FAT partition. The temp directory and working directory are both FAT32 partitions. _____________________ perl -le '$_ = 1; (1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/ && print while $_++;'