Shack Dougall
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03-21-2006 23:05
Previous behavior:An object that was deeded to a group would cease to exist when returned by a land owner. New behavior:Said object is returned to the inventory of the person who owned the object before it was deeded. Discussion:On the surface, the new behavior makes sense. However, it doesn't take into account the "Sell objects with land" feature. If I "Buy for Group" a piece of land that is selling objects with the land, then the objects are automatically deeded to the group (if transferable). If I then return the objects, they go back to the original owner which defeats the whole concept of sell objects with land. Is it better than having the objects cease to exist? Not really, in this case. Well, you have to ask yourself what should the behavior of "Sell with land" be when you "Buy for Group". It's not clear if the objects should be deeded to the group (current behavior) or if they should be transferred to the person who is doing the buying. Conclusion:Too tired to consider this clearly. Talk amongst yourselves. 
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-22-2006 08:51
From: someone If I "Buy for Group" a piece of land that is selling objects with the land, then the objects are automatically deeded to the group (if transferable). If I then return the objects, they go back to the original owner which defeats the whole concept of sell objects with land. Interesting edge-case. I'm not sure it's a bug, but it should probably be changed so the "original owner" is changed to the buyer in this case. It's not a big deal... if you're returning objects bought with land you don't care what happens to them, do you?
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Shack Dougall
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03-22-2006 09:08
From: Argent Stonecutter Interesting edge-case. I think I agree, it's not a big deal. Dang it! I thought by "selling w/ land" that I'd finally found a way to stop getting all those trees returned to me. Then, LL fixes a bug and reels me right back in again. 
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Travis Lambert
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Join date: 3 Jun 2004
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03-22-2006 14:57
From: Shack Dougall Discussion:On the surface, the new behavior makes sense. However, it doesn't take into account the "Sell objects with land" feature. If I "Buy for Group" a piece of land that is selling objects with the land, then the objects are automatically deeded to the group (if transferable). If I then return the objects, they go back to the original owner which defeats the whole concept of sell objects with land. Is it better than having the objects cease to exist? Not really, in this case. Well, you have to ask yourself what should the behavior of "Sell with land" be when you "Buy for Group". It's not clear if the objects should be deeded to the group (current behavior) or if they should be transferred to the person who is doing the buying. Conclusion:Too tired to consider this clearly. Talk amongst yourselves.  Hrm.... I thought the "Sell all objects with land" feature was currently broken for group-owned land/objects. Possibly this is a situation that can't come up? (Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean or the nature of the broken-ness of Sell all Objects).
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Shack Dougall
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03-22-2006 19:06
From: Travis Lambert Hrm.... I thought the "Sell all objects with land" feature was currently broken for group-owned land/objects. Possibly this is a situation that can't come up?
(Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean or the nature of the broken-ness of Sell all Objects). Sell objects with land works with Buy for Group when an individual is selling. In this case, the objects are deeded to the group. Sell objects with land does not work when a group is selling. But it's the first case that I'm talking about.
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