Whats left in SL?

With this latest age verification addition, whats left in SL that doesn't require a lot of time, effort, and possibly some skill. Meaning whats left in this game that you can pick it up, install it and do. You really can't build until you learn to do it, scripting is harder to learn then building. No casinos so no games to play, a lot of the RP sims include sex, so those will get flagged. A lot of the clubs have sex, same problem.

Whats left? The physics system sucks and can't be depended on for anything more then now and then fun till the sim starts dying. and where can you even drive vehicles anymore, the test drive sims are lagging half the time, roads a death trap.

LL is making SL into an overpriced, over complex chat client with pretty buildings you can make.

Heres my 2 cents, stop worrying to much about the kids on the adult grid, close the damn registration, filter the kids out, and put efforts into actually doing something to improve overall stability and playability of Second life. This is retarded, a kid needs special registration to get on the teen grid, but the adult grid is wide open screaming here you go kid, have fun. Why not just make a new grid, make it pay to join, the old 10 bucks one time fee like when I first joined SL, and stop all this non sense.

All your doing now is ripping your player base apart with added drama and unclear regulations. Spitting in the face of every long time player that stood by your company when you were nothing more then a game no one really knew about. Suddenly LL thinks they have this great WEB 2.0 so they screw every customer they can, just to cover their own assets.

Youra! *hugs*

Personally, I'm hoping content creators start getting creative and make new things to do.
You're right though, alot of the things people used to do are no longer available or may not be soon. I still find lots of fun stuff though, of course I never was much of a casino hopper anyway.

What will be left are the minors who are clamoring for some kind of adult content that they didn't have in the teen grid. And the predators that chase them.

I don't wholly agree but there is a sense of irony. SL was built on the work of it's early residents, most of whom are experienced computer gamers, content creators or true proponents of virtual worlds. A good number, but still probably a niche. In an effort to make SL more mainstream, and of wider appear, The providers embarked on the Open Gate policy, which brought in a lot of people, some who have joined the ranks of the creative /business cornerstones, some who are just having casual fun, and some who are an assortment of troublemakers and all around losers. In some ways it is this policy, and the infux of the 3rd group, that have caused the troubles leading to all this verification nonsense. The old time and later resident with substatntial investments in time and money will no doubt remain, the miscreants will be weeded out by the process, but how many of the casual players will jump through all these hoops,"Just to play a game"?

*moves*

I was talking to a friend who's been on SL for about a year and we think they really want to get SL set in a way that is really presentable to cooporations to have their meetings, etc here. With the elimination of most of the gambling, the restrictions for access to mature sims, etc they can sell the product. The Second Life Grid site is geared to the corporate user.

Sorry to say the "game" is being migrated into a business tool.

why was this topic moved yet every other post about verification was left standing? I'm asking a simple question to all the residents, whats left for anyone new to second life to do? I really want to know. So far no ones said one thing they can do besides stand around talk to people, and spend money if they feel like buying some, or camping in chair for hours on end.

This whole age verification mess may be single most dimwitted thing LL has ever done. Their contention that we the residents are somehow responsible for whether a passerby at our property is a minor or not is bull. The attempt to get us to give the third party company our persoinal info is both unusual and unnecessary. The system of enforcement seems complex, unworkable and will probably be poorly enforced going by past preformance of LL. No other online game requires indentity verification, hardcore porn sites dont require it, online gambling sites dont require it. Anything beyond a simple 'I am 21 over over' button that needs to be clicked before you can access the main grid just isnt needed for legal or any other purposes. The LL posts 'explaining' verification read just as they really are, a big MESS.

If you hit the "New Posts" link on top of the board, this thread will still come up no matter where it's at. I got a feeling this is more of feedback type thread then the others.

My goodness...

There is SO much to do in Second Life, I wouldn't know where to begin. And it's certainly not fair to say, "I can't build, model, texture or design" so I'm going to add everything tied to these things on the list of what Second Life DOESN'T offer. That's just ridiculous...Just because you yourself aren't tied directly with those trades doesn't mean you aren't affected by them every time you step out that virtual front door of yours.

Those four trades I listed above definitely contribute to 'what's SL have to offer' in not just the active arena, but the passive as well. And they are just a snippet of what's out there.

Do you like music? It's there.
Do you like shopping? It's here.
Do you like Chatting and Socializing? It's here.

I could go on and on and on...first and foremost you must enjoy exploring 'virtual spaces.' If this idea bores you, interest may quickly dwindle.

And instead of denying possibilities by dogging trades...why don't you take the time to learn one--then you'd have something to look forward to, and get excited about.

Or your AV could just take Zoloft.

Go exploring, that is still one of my most enjoyable activities in SL. Got to my store and get a free box of landmarks to "Places you should visit", to see some of the most wonderful creations I have seen in SL. Very few of them are likely to be "restricted".

Not all clubs have R Rated Sex, and if that is all they have to count on then they are not that good IMO. There are at least 3 Clubs I have been to in the last week alone that did not have flag able sex, I would think that most GOOD clubs are like this. That meaning that whenever you have adults in a club atmosphere you will have scant outfits and flirtation, at most it's PG18, you may have the odd person who decided to turn up nude, I can not see flagging a whole club for one visitors lack of modesty. If anything the owner may request they put some form of cloths on.

IDV WILL NOT be the end to freedom of clubbing, it will be the end of freely being able to access strip clubs and sex spots without verification.

Off the top of my head for non-sex related clubs:

BlackHearts: 80's Club
VooDoo Lounge: Large varied club, likely will have something you like.
Jade's Jazz (?): A Jazz Club a friend took me to.

I will have to ask a friend about a few more we have visited lately, one of which was Jade's which I only remember because I may take another friend who is into jazz there later on, the other was a Rock club, had good tunes there to.

Thats another fun thing to do that does not cost money! Make friends! Then you can pal around with them and see the places that interests them. I do enjoy paling around with my lady friends, we mostly got to various clubs and dance, but we also check out interesting sims and builds as well.

I'm with you on this, Jarred. It's pretty clear that LL is trying to deal with much of the sleaze factor to woo the corporate clients. No smart company is going to really put much into SL as it currently stands.

As for what is there to do? I never gambled and think SL sex is just plain silly. I never run out of things to do. I love music and chatting so I go to clubs and dance a lot. I enjoy discussion and other groups. I build (not everyone needs to be an expert) and I love to shop.
Touring the many wonderful builds out there is almost never ending.

The limits are really only ones imagination (with a few restrictions, of course )

Don't forget to try the myriad classes available. They can be lots of fun, and extremely helpful.

Dearly Darlings,

Michael is right...there are many things to do here. I love meeting all the new young musicians, artists, architects and scripters. I've found some nice places to go dancing with out creepy half naked women. Horse riding here is fun and when you fall down you can still walk! I've learned more about people from cultures different from my own. I've learned more about people with different life styles from my own. Who ever would have thought that I would become good friends with a bisexual cat?! I've learned more about computers here. I've learned how to use the computer more for my RL art work. I helped save a dog here (knowledge is power). Best of all I and my sisters (we live all over the world) can sit and have coffee and chat just like we did when we were children. To have that close sense of family back is worth it's weight in lag!

You all have a lovely afternoon.

Ever Yours,

Mrs. Showdog Tiger

I agree completely...I think the expectation of many new folks coming to SL from other MMOO environments is that they WILL be entertained...that somehow the environment has the burden of responsibility for entertaining...well, I've been an explorer (and 'slap-dab' builder) since October-last, now...and there is NO shortage of venues for learning, entertaining and being entertained...however...

There IS a third component to the LL motto, that is implied but not clearly stated anywhere, really, in print...Second Life is not "Your World, Your Imagination"...it IS "Your World, Your Imagination, Your CREATION"...my advice to anyone, no matter how artistically-impaired they may be in RL (I AM the poster-child), is this...if you are bored, go to the Academy of Second Life, go to the Ivory Tower, find a small public sandbox somewhere that sweeps out every 4 to 5 hours, and JUST TRY IT.

LSL and SL are NOT professional-quality environment-rendering tools (except for a gifted few of you)...but they are a terrific tool of discovery...create a plywood box, bend it, stretch it, color it, texture it, attach it to another one...if you are bored, you are not challenging yourself or the system...and if you don't see what you hoped to find in SL, then please keep looking, or, better yet, fill the niche!

And if you are looking for guaranteed pre-packaged 24/7 entertainment, I want to encourage you to re-evaluate before investing more than US$10 or so, okay?

Well said Michael. Plenty of classes to learn from.

Agree with you as well, Parsimony. Though, I'm not a big fan of the Ivory Tower only because it's not my method for learning. It's great for a very many but I have a hard time learning from a textbook. I took some basic building classes. I found them very frustrating because they didn't seem basic to me, but I still walked away with enough knowledge to be dangerous.

I still use my very first build, which was a fireplace. Not much really but I was gloating big time when I built it. Pretty primative compared to what I'm able to do now, but my non-building friends still ooh and aaah when I tell them I built it. (I don't share how easy it was )

If building is not for you then there's still many, many other classes to take. I have friends who are semi-land barons and have a great time with it. They don't ever expect to make much money, much less get rich, but they still get a high from it all.

Get out there and enjoy. In the end you may find that you prefer something with more structure and purpose like WOW and that's perfectly ok. Options are a lovely thing.