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Tek Rossini
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04-05-2008 05:26
I understand that it makes sense to have your avatar look darker during the night and all but seriously I'm so tired of those shadows that makes our faces look like we're in a remake of the blairwitch project.. that's why most people I see uses face lights and sometimes prim eyes but now with windligtht it's useless...

I might be wrong but I think if linden made a poll to ask players if they would like to have shadows to be only on the landscape and not the avatars they would get like 99% YES :D

So plz remove that lighting that u see when going from medium to high mode in the graphic settings
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04-07-2008 06:15
If you use the old style face lights, they make your Avatar look like a Lighthouse in Windlight. There are quite a few Windlight friendly versions of facelights available now. You can adjust the intensity, colour cast etc with most of them. They even allow you to light up body, hair, head as well as the face.
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04-07-2008 10:07
From: Tek Rossini
I understand that it makes sense to have your avatar look darker during the night and all but seriously I'm so tired of those shadows that makes our faces look like we're in a remake of the blairwitch project.. that's why most people I see uses face lights and sometimes prim eyes but now with windligtht it's useless...

I might be wrong but I think if linden made a poll to ask players if they would like to have shadows to be only on the landscape and not the avatars they would get like 99% YES :D

So plz remove that lighting that u see when going from medium to high mode in the graphic settings

omg, im so glad it isnt just me...the past couple of days..i totally ruined my shape..now i look anorexic..but yea..the shadows made me look like some craggy old hag..so face light, huh? im gonna run right out and buy it.
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Elysium Eilde
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04-07-2008 11:29
From: Tek Rossini
I understand that it makes sense to have your avatar look darker during the night and all but seriously I'm so tired of those shadows that makes our faces look like we're in a remake of the blairwitch project.. that's why most people I see uses face lights and sometimes prim eyes but now with windligtht it's useless...

I might be wrong but I think if linden made a poll to ask players if they would like to have shadows to be only on the landscape and not the avatars they would get like 99% YES :D

So plz remove that lighting that u see when going from medium to high mode in the graphic settings


shadows on Avatars is part of what allows Windlight to make things look more real. It is true that at the default settings AVs look like crap, but if you customize your sky settings, AVs actually look WAY better than they did in the old viewer, less like cartoons.

If that poll included SL photographers and others who know how to customize light, I think you'd get most saying KEEP that shadows on avatars. I WANT shading:

Alecia Letov
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04-07-2008 11:45
But if you customize your sky settings!!

How do you change your sky settings?

Thanks in advance.
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04-07-2008 11:49
From: Elysium Eilde
shadows on Avatars is part of what allows Windlight to make things look more real. It is true that at the default settings AVs look like crap, but if you customize your sky settings, AVs actually look WAY better than they did in the old viewer, less like cartoons.

If that poll included SL photographers and others who know how to customize light, I think you'd get most saying KEEP that shadows on avatars. I WANT shading:
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Being a RL hobbyist photographer, I agree. It's rare that I ever have a human subject in my photography (abandoned places are my personal favorite subjects) I have a personal bent toward very high contrast and deeply shadowed images.

Some of my favorite shots are clear noon with little to no dispersed light. I almost never use a flash. I truly never use a reflector. And I find all that flat lighting some people find so desirable to be.... well.... undesirable. (^_^)

So, for me, that carries over to what I appreciate about SL in Windlight. Good job on those pics BTW. (^_^)y
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Elysium Eilde
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04-07-2008 12:08
From: Alecia Letov
But if you customize your sky settings!!

How do you change your sky settings?

Thanks in advance.


World > Environment Setting > Environment Editor then choose Advanced Sky and the Lighting tab

I will admit, this is a bit overwhelming there are sooo many options! It also depends, do you just want a good setting that doesn't change that is nice for walking around the grid? Do you want photography settings? Do you want the day cycle to keep going and still look good at all times of day? It took about 2 weeks of playing with the settings for me to REALLY understand it all..and I spend a ton of time in world. I was finally able to create over a dozen custom setting in the past month for different purposes.

a quick web search yielded this, though i haven't read it, looks like it might help you get started:
http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2008/01/ophelias-gaze-s.html

good luck!

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foehn Breed
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04-07-2008 15:41
Every now and then my avi looks totally fine in WL, but I still like face lighting,
the non blighting anyone and myself out.
I have been using the Bare Rose Beta one,
has something came out since, that is effective w/o being annoying that some one can recommend?
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Torian Carter
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04-26-2008 08:58
You can use a facelight, but remember that it's a local light so you can only have 6 on screen at once. Bottom line, if your in a club or something you may look fine to yourself, but you will look like crap to anyone else unless they are really close to you.
Konnie Larsen
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04-30-2008 09:34
From: AWM Mars
If you use the old style face lights, they make your Avatar look like a Lighthouse in Windlight. There are quite a few Windlight friendly versions of facelights available now. You can adjust the intensity, colour cast etc with most of them. They even allow you to light up body, hair, head as well as the face.[/QUOT


please .. where do u find these. the avi whole body light is awful in new update
Debbie Trilling
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04-30-2008 10:14
From: Torian Carter
You can use a facelight, but remember that it's a local light so you can only have 6 on screen at once


Yep, good point.

And further to that, wearing facelights and/or other prim lighting vanity systems will make it practically impossible for you (or anyone near you) to be able to appreciate any build or artist creation where the builder/artist has carefully crafted light into their work.

On a number of occasions I have seen artistic work spoiled for the audience/attendees because an AV entered the room wearing a vanity lighting system.

See article "How to Ruin an Artists Work Using Facelights & Prim Lighting" at http://diabolus.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2012390%3ATopic%3A2501
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Ann Launay
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05-03-2008 16:42
From: Debbie Trilling

And further to that, wearing facelights and/or other prim lighting vanity systems will make it practically impossible for you (or anyone near you) to be able to appreciate any build or artist creation where the builder/artist has carefully crafted light into their work.

I'm so tired of this argument. For a lot of Residents, their avatar IS the work they're most proud of in SL and they're just as entitled to light it attractively as the high and mighty 'builders and artists.'

Using most or all of the local lighting sources is admittedly inconsiderate, but so is insisting that the rest of us are doing something wrong if we want to show off the effort and time we've put into our avatars.

A builder lighting their build for maximum impact is just as much vanity as someone lighting their avatar for the same reason. Either way, your asking viewers to admire what you've done.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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05-03-2008 17:12
From: Ann Launay
I'm so tired of this argument. For a lot of Residents, their avatar IS the work they're most proud of in SL and they're just as entitled to light it attractively as the high and mighty 'builders and artists.'

Using most or all of the local lighting sources is admittedly inconsiderate, but so is insisting that the rest of us are doing something wrong if we want to show off the effort and time we've put into our avatars.

A builder lighting their build for maximum impact is just as much vanity as someone lighting their avatar for the same reason. Either way, your asking viewers to admire what you've done.


I agree 100%. You can adjust your environmental lighting to make you look good.......in your viewer only. Everyone else sees you according to their settings. If you are proud of your avatar and want to show it off to everyone, you cannot rely on environmental settings. You need to come up with something else......and prim lights are the only way I know of to do that. Building artists just have to share......for a change.
Draco18s Majestic
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05-04-2008 11:23
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You know.
Vanity Lighting is rather vain (as noted by the root of the word vanity).
Being vain shows a sense of egotism and pride.
Pride is a deadly sin.
Narcissus turned into a flower because he was so proud of his looks.

You don't wander around with a car battery and a bunch of spot lights strapped to you back, do you? Even if you wore a really nice suit.

QUIT THE F*ING LIGHT SHOW!

I don't even wander around with Local Lights turned on anyway because my card can't handle it.
Peggy Paperdoll
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05-04-2008 12:08
From: Draco18s Majestic
....
You know.
Vanity Lighting is rather vain (as noted by the root of the word vanity).
Being vain shows a sense of egotism and pride.
Pride is a deadly sin.
.......
I don't even wander around with Local Lights turned on anyway because my card can't handle it.



Then anyone wearing face lights or any lighting at all wouldn't bother you. :)

For the record, I don't wear lights unless I accidently forget to take them off or turn them off. However, if someone wants to wear theirs I'm okay with it. I see no difference in someone wearing lights to accent their "creation" with their shape/skin/clothes and some building designer lighting up his/her creation. One just happens to walk around the other does not.

Why would someone's building be more important than someone's avatar when using lights? It can be argued just as convincingly that a build and the associated lighting robs someone's avatar of lighting effects. It's just the very subjectlve view of the beholder.