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SL support for Intel Chipsets??

BritHawk McMillan
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02-20-2009 10:23
I'm buying a new laptop soon this is a Samsung NC-10 which comes with 1GB of RAM, XP Home and a Dual Core Intel Atom 1.6GHz Processor.
I believe it's quite capable of running Second Life however I've had bad experiences in the past like my ATI Radeon IGP 7000 which only runs fine in wireframe mode
As far as I'm aware the NC-10 has an Intel 945 integrated graphics (or Intel GMA 950??) with 64MB shared memory, will this work or does this chipset have nagging compatibility issues??
Destiny Niles
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02-20-2009 11:32
I was wonder also if SL would run on a netbook. If anyone run SL on a netbook let me know.
Paola Delpaso
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02-20-2009 13:54
I would strongly advise against switching to an Intel chipset.

On an office laptop (Lenovo T61 with Intel 945) we cannot display sculpties without severe performance degradations. SL is effectively unusable there. It's a rather common phenomenon. See the JIRA: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7072

The older ATI mobility Radeon on another laptop works much better.
Ricky Yates
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Stay away from Intel chipsets!
02-20-2009 14:01
I would strongly advise against switching to an Intel chipset.

On an office laptop (Lenovo T61 with Intel 945) we cannot display sculpties without severe performance degradations. SL is effectively unusable there. It's a rather common phenomenon. See the JIRA: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7072

The older ATI mobility Radeon on another laptop works much better.
BritHawk McMillan
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02-21-2009 12:54
Thanks for the info it seems Second Life coders need to do more to improve compatibility with Intel GMA integrated graphics this is after all quite popular with many laptop manufacturers.
Given the choice I would probably go for an NVIDIA chipset but they're pricey and unfortunately Samsung or other brands don't ship them with their range of mini notebooks.
Reading on the Intel forum: http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2007/11/29/there-is-a-hack-for-second-life-and-the-intel-965-chipset/
it appears there are some hacks to alleviate the frame rate problems but as far as I'm concerned I'm not so fused if sculptures look wrong at least I can walk around or voice chat with my friends.
Milla Janick
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02-21-2009 13:46
From: BritHawk McMillan
Thanks for the info it seems Second Life coders need to do more to improve compatibility with Intel GMA integrated graphics this is after all quite popular with many laptop manufacturers.

No, Intel needs to make better graphics controllers.

Second Life is a pretty demanding application. It's not going to run well on low end hardware, like the Atom CPU and Intel GMA graphics.
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Millicent Frog
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02-23-2009 07:53
From: Milla Janick
No, Intel needs to make better graphics controllers.

Second Life is a pretty demanding application. It's not going to run well on low end hardware, like the Atom CPU and Intel GMA graphics.


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Paola Delpaso
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02-24-2009 04:42
From: Milla Janick
No, Intel needs to make better graphics controllers.

Second Life is a pretty demanding application. It's not going to run well on low end hardware, like the Atom CPU and Intel GMA graphics.
If they want to get a stronger footprint in the corporate market they need to support typical office hardware. Which company apart from a media agency is able to afford nuclear-powered GPUs for their employees' workstations?
Milla Janick
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02-24-2009 05:32
Yeah, it's LL's programmers fault SL doesn't run as fast on an Intel GMA as it does on an Nvidia GTX280.

If it were simply a matter of wanting to make everything run wonderfully on low end hardware, ATI and Nvidia wouldn't make those "nuclear-powered" GPUs.

You buy tools appropriate for the job. If you want to run SL well, that means a decent ATI or Nvidia video card.
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Argent Stonecutter
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02-24-2009 05:41
I think the idea of gaining a stronger foothold in the corporate market is wishful thinking at best.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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02-24-2009 21:17
If Linden Lab dumbed down the software enough that low end chipsets designed for word processing and light weight web browsing would run smoothly, you would have the 21st Century equivalant of Pong to play on..............do you really want that?
Micheal Adder
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02-26-2009 04:26
b4 i log on game where i write my pass
i go to edit then C+P then voice chat its work but when i log in its not working i dunt know why ? pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me....
Briana Dawson
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02-26-2009 05:34
From: Millicent Frog
No, linden lab needs to hire qualified programmers. This has been going on since beta, and it will never end.

Wrong.
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Briana Dawson
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02-26-2009 05:37
From: Paola Delpaso
If they want to get a stronger footprint in the corporate market they need to support typical office hardware. Which company apart from a media agency is able to afford nuclear-powered GPUs for their employees' workstations?

Not quite.

SL is a powerfully intense application. You cannot take something so CPU/GPU intensive and then claim it needs to be able to work on lesser machines.

What you get is a non-functional SL, or basically There.com - something that runs in a browser on any machine.

That is fairly backwards reasoning to say that SL needs to support "office hardware". SL cannot go backwards and become compatible with lesser equipment if the system itself is supposed to be advancing/evolving constantly getting better with the new technologies available.

This is not a public domain software project - it is not supposed to work with the lowest common denominator/Computer. It has always required the high-end hardware.

Look at what SL offers and how it offers it and then you see there is no dumbing down the application for it to work on low end machines that are not even meant for games at all.
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Millicent Frog
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03-01-2009 02:43
From: Peggy Paperdoll
If Linden Lab dumbed down the software enough that low end chipsets designed for word processing and light weight web browsing would run smoothly, you would have the 21st Century equivalant of Pong to play on..............do you really want that?


Aw, peggy paperdoll is pretending he knows how computers work again. How sweet.