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Ralph Doctorow

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12-20-2005 21:01

At least for me this was a very big improvement.

Jumpda Shark

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12-20-2005 21:40

Yeah, land textures are almost instant compared to what they were. Me like

Michael Psaltery

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12-21-2005 00:00

Land textures were loaded immediately, but every other texture was still showing up as the gray/white frame when I finally quit 10 minutes after logging in. This is rucking fidiculous.

Phoenix Psaltery

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12-21-2005 00:28

You know, if it was really an SL problem, I think all or most of us would be having similar problems. Things are running great for me. I have a decent machine but nowhere close to state-of-the-art. I think we need to start considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe, those who are still having major problems have config problems on their own machines that are causing these issues.

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12-21-2005 04:10

From: Phoenix Psaltery

You know, if it was really an SL problem, I think all or most of us would be having similar problems. Things are running great for me. I have a decent machine but nowhere close to state-of-the-art. I think we need to start considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe, those who are still having major problems have config problems on their own machines that are causing these issues.

P2

Heh, ya think?

You shouldn't say that as the many former computer consultants will tell you they know what they are doing and you are just special because your system works well.

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Kris Ritter

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12-21-2005 04:28

From: Phoenix Psaltery

You know, if it was really an SL problem, I think all or most of us would be having similar problems. Things are running great for me. I have a decent machine but nowhere close to state-of-the-art. I think we need to start considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe, those who are still having major problems have config problems on their own machines that are causing these issues.

And then there are those of us that have completely disproved that to be the case. But if it works for you, just assume everyone else is wrong and has a shit pc, why dontcha?

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12-21-2005 05:40

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You know, if it was really an SL problem, I think all or most of us would be having similar problems. Things are running great for me. I have a decent machine but nowhere close to state-of-the-art. I think we need to start considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe, those who are still having major problems have config problems on their own machines that are causing these issues.

I was wondering if you had to be making a profit off SL before you adopted the "blame the luser" stance; there's another checkmark in the "yes" column.

These are not the 'droids you are looking for. SL is not being renamed Grey Life®.

Kathmandu Gilman

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12-21-2005 06:16

Boy, that didn't take long...

BTW SL is working really well on all four of my machines ranging from an 1800+ amd, 2600 P4 laptop, 2600+ amd to a 4400+ duel core X2. As of the last update, SL is working better and faster than it ever has since I started back in 1.3. Then again I am the exception, not the rule apparently. Strong in the force this one is hmm.

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Kazuo Murakami

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12-21-2005 07:06

This post is innapropriate for this forum and is being closed.

This forum is for "1.7 feature feedback." While this may technically make this forum a complete waste of space, it remains the stated purpose of this forum.

Lizbeth Marlowe

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12-21-2005 07:11

Glad to hear some of you aren't having problems. That's awesome.
Most of us are still having problems. Guess What? LL knows there's a problem and they are working on it. It's NOT client side. Perhaps you should read their announcements before you decide the rest of us are crazy or need to fix our pcs.

Check this, and think again.

I think M2 might want to send out an apology to it's readers...

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Kathmandu Gilman

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12-21-2005 08:02

You are right, the problem was server side and the update yesterday seems to have fixed the majority of the problem for at least four people, possibly many more. If you are still having problems then it is likely to be on the client side, network related or perhaps an individual server having issues.

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Gypsy Rambler

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12-21-2005 08:58

LAND textures are loading fast, as the update specified. Other textures, however, are still borked.
That ain't fixed yet.
But, I'm glad it's working for you.

Ceera Murakami

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12-21-2005 11:02

All cynicisim and accusations aside, while it doesn't seem to have addressed all the problems, the new roll-out and client do seem to have helped my system a bit. I have a low-end system - a Mac Mini. Just barely meets the published minimums. and it is better for me.

Textures loaded a bit faster, and most notably they stayed cached much better once loaded. Over all, the frame rate was better. Nothing stellar, but better. Maybe a 30% improvement.

I think the client can still be improved, and that they also probably need to re-think what they say about the minimum video card standards.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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12-21-2005 11:26

From: Michael Psaltery

Land textures were loaded immediately, but every other texture was still showing up as the gray/white frame when I finally quit 10 minutes after logging in. This is rucking fidiculous.

It's not ten minutes for me in most places, but the pleasure of flying around is completely destroyed.

My computer hasn't slowed down since the time before the company changed their software from versions that worked to versions that don't work. The change is in the software or hardware Linden Lab is running, or in the client software they provided to users.

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Argent Stonecutter

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12-21-2005 11:45

Yah, I get textures that are still taking 5 minutes to load.

The "teleporting" texture on my copy of Cubey's Mark III teleporters hasn't loaded successfully since 1.7 came in. The teleport is over before it's shown up.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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12-21-2005 18:15

I have now had some textures that so far as I can tell would never load.

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Alan Kiesler

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12-21-2005 22:22

I moved about a bit yesterday, and found (to me) that its nearly back to the degree it was before 1.7. That's on the desktop, which I would consider an 'above-average' system - in particular a P4-3.0, an Nvidia 5700LE and a Windows install just over a week old.

Still not up to par with what it was a year ago, when I built this desktop. The decline started about mid-1.6 or so.

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Ralph Doctorow

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Sure there are still problems, but it's a lot better

12-22-2005 07:53

Yes, textures other than land are still too slow, and I still think that the caching algorithm is either broken or needs a very serious redesign.

None the less, after this update, my SL experience is far better than before.

New client 1.8.0.9 seems very good
Ralph Doctorow Registered User Join date: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 560	12-20-2005 21:01 At least for me this was a very big improvement.
Jumpda Shark Registered User Join date: 18 Dec 2004 Posts: 41	12-20-2005 21:40 Yeah, land textures are almost instant compared to what they were. Me like
Michael Psaltery Registered User Join date: 6 Jun 2004 Posts: 57	Still Sucks 12-21-2005 00:00 Land textures were loaded immediately, but every other texture was still showing up as the gray/white frame when I finally quit 10 minutes after logging in. This is rucking fidiculous.
Phoenix Psaltery Ninja Wizard Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 2,599	12-21-2005 00:28 You know, if it was really an SL problem, I think all or most of us would be having similar problems. Things are running great for me. I have a decent machine but nowhere close to state-of-the-art. I think we need to start considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe, those who are still having major problems have config problems on their own machines that are causing these issues. P2 _____________________
Kathmandu Gilman Fearful Symmetry Baby! Join date: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1,418	12-21-2005 04:10 From: Phoenix Psaltery You know, if it was really an SL problem, I think all or most of us would be having similar problems. Things are running great for me. I have a decent machine but nowhere close to state-of-the-art. I think we need to start considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe, those who are still having major problems have config problems on their own machines that are causing these issues. P2 Heh, ya think? You shouldn't say that as the many former computer consultants will tell you they know what they are doing and you are just special because your system works well. _____________________ It may be true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease but it is also true that the squeaky wheel gets replaced at the first critical maintenance opportunity.
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	12-21-2005 04:28 From: Phoenix Psaltery You know, if it was really an SL problem, I think all or most of us would be having similar problems. Things are running great for me. I have a decent machine but nowhere close to state-of-the-art. I think we need to start considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe, those who are still having major problems have config problems on their own machines that are causing these issues. And then there are those of us that have completely disproved that to be the case. But if it works for you, just assume everyone else is wrong and has a shit pc, why dontcha?
Introvert Petunia over 2 billion posts Join date: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,065	12-21-2005 05:40 From: someone You know, if it was really an SL problem, I think all or most of us would be having similar problems. Things are running great for me. I have a decent machine but nowhere close to state-of-the-art. I think we need to start considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe, those who are still having major problems have config problems on their own machines that are causing these issues. I was wondering if you had to be making a profit off SL before you adopted the "blame the luser" stance; there's another checkmark in the "yes" column. These are not the 'droids you are looking for. SL is not being renamed Grey Life®.
Kathmandu Gilman Fearful Symmetry Baby! Join date: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1,418	12-21-2005 06:16 Boy, that didn't take long... BTW SL is working really well on all four of my machines ranging from an 1800+ amd, 2600 P4 laptop, 2600+ amd to a 4400+ duel core X2. As of the last update, SL is working better and faster than it ever has since I started back in 1.3. Then again I am the exception, not the rule apparently. Strong in the force this one is hmm. _____________________ It may be true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease but it is also true that the squeaky wheel gets replaced at the first critical maintenance opportunity.
Kazuo Murakami Sofa King Join date: 31 Aug 2005 Posts: 359	12-21-2005 07:06 This post is innapropriate for this forum and is being closed. This forum is for "1.7 feature feedback." While this may technically make this forum a complete waste of space, it remains the stated purpose of this forum.
Lizbeth Marlowe The ORIGINAL "Demo Girl" Join date: 7 May 2005 Posts: 544	12-21-2005 07:11 Glad to hear some of you aren't having problems. That's awesome. Most of us are still having problems. Guess What? LL knows there's a problem and they are working on it. It's NOT client side. Perhaps you should read their announcements before you decide the rest of us are crazy or need to fix our pcs. Check this, and think again. I think M2 might want to send out an apology to it's readers... _____________________ Vote to add a button to verify Deleting Items! Prop 903 I've updated my BLOG!
Kathmandu Gilman Fearful Symmetry Baby! Join date: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1,418	12-21-2005 08:02 You are right, the problem was server side and the update yesterday seems to have fixed the majority of the problem for at least four people, possibly many more. If you are still having problems then it is likely to be on the client side, network related or perhaps an individual server having issues. _____________________ It may be true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease but it is also true that the squeaky wheel gets replaced at the first critical maintenance opportunity.
Gypsy Rambler Registered User Join date: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 4	12-21-2005 08:58 LAND textures are loading fast, as the update specified. Other textures, however, are still borked. That ain't fixed yet. But, I'm glad it's working for you.
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	12-21-2005 11:02 All cynicisim and accusations aside, while it doesn't seem to have addressed all the problems, the new roll-out and client do seem to have helped my system a bit. I have a low-end system - a Mac Mini. Just barely meets the published minimums. and it is better for me. Textures loaded a bit faster, and most notably they stayed cached much better once loaded. Over all, the frame rate was better. Nothing stellar, but better. Maybe a 30% improvement. I think the client can still be improved, and that they also probably need to re-think what they say about the minimum video card standards.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	12-21-2005 11:26 From: Michael Psaltery Land textures were loaded immediately, but every other texture was still showing up as the gray/white frame when I finally quit 10 minutes after logging in. This is rucking fidiculous. It's not ten minutes for me in most places, but the pleasure of flying around is completely destroyed. My computer hasn't slowed down since the time before the company changed their software from versions that worked to versions that don't work. The change is in the software or hardware Linden Lab is running, or in the client software they provided to users. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	12-21-2005 11:45 Yah, I get textures that are still taking 5 minutes to load. The "teleporting" texture on my copy of Cubey's Mark III teleporters hasn't loaded successfully since 1.7 came in. The teleport is over before it's shown up.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	12-21-2005 18:15 I have now had some textures that so far as I can tell would never load. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Alan Kiesler Retired Resident Join date: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 354	12-21-2005 22:22 I moved about a bit yesterday, and found (to me) that its nearly back to the degree it was before 1.7. That's on the desktop, which I would consider an 'above-average' system - in particular a P4-3.0, an Nvidia 5700LE and a Windows install just over a week old. Still not up to par with what it was a year ago, when I built this desktop. The decline started about mid-1.6 or so. _____________________ Timothy S. Kimball (RL) -- aka 'Alan Kiesler' The Kind Healer -- http://sungak.net No ending is EVER written; Communities will continue on their own.
Ralph Doctorow Registered User Join date: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 560	Sure there are still problems, but it's a lot better 12-22-2005 07:53 Yes, textures other than land are still too slow, and I still think that the caching algorithm is either broken or needs a very serious redesign. None the less, after this update, my SL experience is far better than before.

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