Second Life Forums Archive - Problems 8800,Vista or Processor not recognised?

Sam Holyoke

Registered User

Join date: 30 Oct 2006

Posts: 6

06-03-2007 04:15

I recently purchased new machine

I have a dual core 2.13 6400 and when I go to about in preferences it reports the following
CPU: Intel Pentium Pro (Unknown model) (2133 MHz)
I also have an nvidia 8800gts 320 mb on vista premium 32

the frame rate is way below my old pentium 4 ,nvidia 7800 on XP and I have the old machine and checked setting in preferences, they are the same as my new machine.

I've browsed the forums and read others have had no problem with 8800 but wondering if that's because they are still on xp.

any pointers ,tips or explanations would be greatfully recieved.
I have upgraded to the latest nvidia drivers.

Oh looking out to sea, great frame rate.

TIA

Sam

Haravikk Mistral

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Join date: 8 Oct 2005

Posts: 2,482

06-03-2007 05:13

Unfortunately Vista is currently listed as being unsupported by SL, so the fact that you can run it at all is lucky. You may not like the sounds of it, but my advice would be to install XP if you can, either in place of Vista (which is a performance hog for no good reason anyway) or as separate OS and dual-boot your computer.

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Computer (Mac Pro):
2 x Quad Core 3.2ghz Xeon
10gb DDR2 800mhz FB-DIMMS
4 x 750gb, 32mb cache hard-drives (RAID-0/striped)
NVidia GeForce 8800GT (512mb)

Kevin Susenko

Voice Mentor

Join date: 11 Jul 2006

Posts: 198

06-03-2007 05:47

I have the same processor and the 8800 GTX, and for me SL runs faster than it does on XP. I usually average around 40-70fps around other people. 100-120fps when I'm in the middle of nowhere. What version of nVidia drivers do you have?

The latest is 158.45: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_158.45.html

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Sam Holyoke

Registered User

Join date: 30 Oct 2006

Posts: 6

06-03-2007 07:19

Thanks for the quick repsonse both of you

driver version is reported as 7.15.11.5824 and I just downloaded it today.
The max frame rate I can get is about 45 looking out to sea and about 2 looking back into the land from the same spot.

One thing I've noticed is that it seems fine for a few minutes then starts slowing down. and becomes so laggy that it gets very slow typing even, I'm not getting packet loss but ping (being in uk) is high, about 230.

What's the difference between the GTX and GTS? mine is 320 MB but XP reports it as 256, does yours report the same Kevin?

interesting your link to the driver is a beta one, me selscting win vista 32 and series 8 card gives me
Windows Vista 32-bit

ForceWare Release 158
Version: 158.24
Release Date: June 1, 2007
WHQL Driver

Kevin Susenko

Voice Mentor

Join date: 11 Jul 2006

Posts: 198

06-03-2007 08:57

From: Sam Holyoke

Thanks for the quick repsonse both of you

driver version is reported as 7.15.11.5824 and I just downloaded it today.
The max frame rate I can get is about 45 looking out to sea and about 2 looking back into the land from the same spot.

One thing I've noticed is that it seems fine for a few minutes then starts slowing down. and becomes so laggy that it gets very slow typing even, I'm not getting packet loss but ping (being in uk) is high, about 230.

What's the difference between the GTX and GTS? mine is 320 MB but XP reports it as 256, does yours report the same Kevin?

interesting your link to the driver is a beta one, me selscting win vista 32 and series 8 card gives me
Windows Vista 32-bit

ForceWare Release 158
Version: 158.24
Release Date: June 1, 2007
WHQL Driver

Yeah, the beta driver is better than the WHQL. The GTX has 768mb of memory, and faster clock speeds but other than that it's the same card. One thing I've noticed is that SL doesn't recgonize or have options for either 320 or 768mb of memory. So I just end up setting it to 512mb in SL's preferences. Generally that doesn't cause my frame rate to go down though, it just makes the textures not load right.

You can try setting the affinity to just one processor by opening up the task manager, going to the processes tab, finding secondlife.exe in the list, right click on it and click set affinity. Then uncheck one of the CPUs and click ok. Also while you're there make sure nothing's maxing out you're processor.

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Sam Holyoke

Registered User

Join date: 30 Oct 2006

Posts: 6

06-03-2007 11:19

Tried the beta driver and it just crashed me also vista said it didn't recognise the supplier, there has to be something else in SL that's causing the problem, maybe I should hit the beta grid where they test out stuff, thanks for your help kevin if you have any more suggestions (tried all you said so far) I'll give them a go.

Osgeld Barmy

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Join date: 22 Mar 2005

Posts: 3,336

06-03-2007 12:20

windows (any version) almost always pops up that "i dunno who gave this to you" message for anything but MS drivers i wouldnt worry about it too much

Sam Holyoke

Registered User

Join date: 30 Oct 2006

Posts: 6

06-03-2007 13:09

Loaded beta drivers, no crashing fortunately but still the same problem frame rate great for about 2 minutes then drops to 3-5 fps
and thanks for friendship offer Kevin, only saw it in email, missed it in SL

Kevin Susenko

Voice Mentor

Join date: 11 Jul 2006

Posts: 198

06-03-2007 14:07

From: Sam Holyoke

Loaded beta drivers, no crashing fortunately but still the same problem frame rate great for about 2 minutes then drops to 3-5 fps
and thanks for friendship offer Kevin, only saw it in email, missed it in SL

That's because it was on the beta grid. So you'll have to go there to accept it

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Problems 8800,Vista or Processor not recognised?
Sam Holyoke Registered User Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 6	06-03-2007 04:15 I recently purchased new machine I have a dual core 2.13 6400 and when I go to about in preferences it reports the following CPU: Intel Pentium Pro (Unknown model) (2133 MHz) I also have an nvidia 8800gts 320 mb on vista premium 32 the frame rate is way below my old pentium 4 ,nvidia 7800 on XP and I have the old machine and checked setting in preferences, they are the same as my new machine. I've browsed the forums and read others have had no problem with 8800 but wondering if that's because they are still on xp. any pointers ,tips or explanations would be greatfully recieved. I have upgraded to the latest nvidia drivers. Oh looking out to sea, great frame rate. TIA Sam
Haravikk Mistral Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2005 Posts: 2,482	06-03-2007 05:13 Unfortunately Vista is currently listed as being unsupported by SL, so the fact that you can run it at all is lucky. You may not like the sounds of it, but my advice would be to install XP if you can, either in place of Vista (which is a performance hog for no good reason anyway) or as separate OS and dual-boot your computer. _____________________ Computer (Mac Pro): 2 x Quad Core 3.2ghz Xeon 10gb DDR2 800mhz FB-DIMMS 4 x 750gb, 32mb cache hard-drives (RAID-0/striped) NVidia GeForce 8800GT (512mb)
Kevin Susenko Voice Mentor Join date: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 198	06-03-2007 05:47 I have the same processor and the 8800 GTX, and for me SL runs faster than it does on XP. I usually average around 40-70fps around other people. 100-120fps when I'm in the middle of nowhere. What version of nVidia drivers do you have? The latest is 158.45: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_158.45.html _____________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (Overclocked - 2.8GHz) \| Mobo: EVGA nForce 680i SLI \| GPU: XFX nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX 768mb GDDR3 \| Memory: 4gb DDR2 PC5300 667MHz Dual Channel \| PSU: Antec Neo HE 550w \| Sound: SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtrememusic \| HDD: 950gb total SATA3 \| OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
Sam Holyoke Registered User Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 6	06-03-2007 07:19 Thanks for the quick repsonse both of you driver version is reported as 7.15.11.5824 and I just downloaded it today. The max frame rate I can get is about 45 looking out to sea and about 2 looking back into the land from the same spot. One thing I've noticed is that it seems fine for a few minutes then starts slowing down. and becomes so laggy that it gets very slow typing even, I'm not getting packet loss but ping (being in uk) is high, about 230. What's the difference between the GTX and GTS? mine is 320 MB but XP reports it as 256, does yours report the same Kevin? interesting your link to the driver is a beta one, me selscting win vista 32 and series 8 card gives me Windows Vista 32-bit ForceWare Release 158 Version: 158.24 Release Date: June 1, 2007 WHQL Driver
Kevin Susenko Voice Mentor Join date: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 198	06-03-2007 08:57 From: Sam Holyoke Thanks for the quick repsonse both of you driver version is reported as 7.15.11.5824 and I just downloaded it today. The max frame rate I can get is about 45 looking out to sea and about 2 looking back into the land from the same spot. One thing I've noticed is that it seems fine for a few minutes then starts slowing down. and becomes so laggy that it gets very slow typing even, I'm not getting packet loss but ping (being in uk) is high, about 230. What's the difference between the GTX and GTS? mine is 320 MB but XP reports it as 256, does yours report the same Kevin? interesting your link to the driver is a beta one, me selscting win vista 32 and series 8 card gives me Windows Vista 32-bit ForceWare Release 158 Version: 158.24 Release Date: June 1, 2007 WHQL Driver Yeah, the beta driver is better than the WHQL. The GTX has 768mb of memory, and faster clock speeds but other than that it's the same card. One thing I've noticed is that SL doesn't recgonize or have options for either 320 or 768mb of memory. So I just end up setting it to 512mb in SL's preferences. Generally that doesn't cause my frame rate to go down though, it just makes the textures not load right. You can try setting the affinity to just one processor by opening up the task manager, going to the processes tab, finding secondlife.exe in the list, right click on it and click set affinity. Then uncheck one of the CPUs and click ok. Also while you're there make sure nothing's maxing out you're processor. _____________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (Overclocked - 2.8GHz) \| Mobo: EVGA nForce 680i SLI \| GPU: XFX nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX 768mb GDDR3 \| Memory: 4gb DDR2 PC5300 667MHz Dual Channel \| PSU: Antec Neo HE 550w \| Sound: SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtrememusic \| HDD: 950gb total SATA3 \| OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
Sam Holyoke Registered User Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 6	06-03-2007 11:19 Tried the beta driver and it just crashed me also vista said it didn't recognise the supplier, there has to be something else in SL that's causing the problem, maybe I should hit the beta grid where they test out stuff, thanks for your help kevin if you have any more suggestions (tried all you said so far) I'll give them a go.
Osgeld Barmy Registered User Join date: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 3,336	06-03-2007 12:20 windows (any version) almost always pops up that "i dunno who gave this to you" message for anything but MS drivers i wouldnt worry about it too much
Sam Holyoke Registered User Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 6	06-03-2007 13:09 Loaded beta drivers, no crashing fortunately but still the same problem frame rate great for about 2 minutes then drops to 3-5 fps and thanks for friendship offer Kevin, only saw it in email, missed it in SL
Kevin Susenko Voice Mentor Join date: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 198	06-03-2007 14:07 From: Sam Holyoke Loaded beta drivers, no crashing fortunately but still the same problem frame rate great for about 2 minutes then drops to 3-5 fps and thanks for friendship offer Kevin, only saw it in email, missed it in SL That's because it was on the beta grid. So you'll have to go there to accept it _____________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (Overclocked - 2.8GHz) \| Mobo: EVGA nForce 680i SLI \| GPU: XFX nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX 768mb GDDR3 \| Memory: 4gb DDR2 PC5300 667MHz Dual Channel \| PSU: Antec Neo HE 550w \| Sound: SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtrememusic \| HDD: 950gb total SATA3 \| OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

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