Supposely Spamming Groups

Okay everytime i ask a question in a group i useally get kicked out or yelled at.. because im supposely spamming i dont get it wats not spamming in a group why are you gonna have a group and not ask questions... i think its pretty stupid if people complain about the spam than get outta the group.. i dont see a use for groups if u cant ask a question

I agree, some people just look for things to complain about. I have started groups to communicate with people, and when a communication is needed, people leave the group complaining of spam. So.... Why the hell did they join the group if they don't want communications? the world may never know....

Spam and eggs, spam and toast, fried spam, spam spam and spam....

I know.. i thought a group was there to chat.. but everytime i say something they yell at me saying STOP SPAMMING like than wat can i say in a group chat

We-ell, it depends on the group:
1) Some groups are ment for annoucements by the officers about particular events. Asking "questions" is not how you are ment to use them, as they aren't really for general chat
2) Some groups aren't really set up to answer questions, being as they are more social
3) In the reverse, some groups (Say, scripters pf SL) are really ment for slightly more advanced questions, and questions asking "how do I script" or "does anyone have a script that does X" won't be appreciated. And they really won't like people saying "Hi!" and having no question at all.
4) Some groups ARE ment for questions, but only of a certain sort. Going onto the JEVN user group and asking about where to buy good shoes is not really suitable. And same about the "Hi!" conversations.
5) Finally, if you ask through SEVERAL groups the same question, especially at once, you may find people who are in the same groups as well as you are seeing this as extremely spammy.

Depends if you're asking a dragon group where the next big shoe sale is.

LOL If I only had the time..oh we are getting updated today..nah, still too much trouble..however I believe there is an entire thread with you as the hub for spamming every forum with announcements off topic as well..having been in a group with you for the entire 5 days it took you to realize you were behaving in a manner that was perceived as spam or in other words wanted to yap 24/7 in it...my suggestion to you...form your own group and talk to all of 'em all the time about everything ..daycares, adoption, hanging out, what place your hanging at, where to shop, and the list goes on and on and on and on. Because the issue is...not everyone has time for 10 groups that talk non stop about subjects with no interest and if no one answers you or leaves chat....it's time for you to spam again!!!!!

Sounds like you are a member of a group I was before.. when i lived in D..... a well known man.. P.. always shouted.. always..

IF a group are not helpful.. or friendly... leave it!

/Tina

Okay ya i appolgize over that but i dont think you needa be rude about that.
I thought SL was to chat it up you know but some people are just to busy making money and rely on SL for RL money issues.

I think what the real issue is here, is that when group IM's randomely pop up without warning. It gets pretty annoying, escpecialy if you doing somethign rather important and cannot deal with petty questions and other meaningless crap. I go through it alot, so I don't really think it's spam, just people are like feeling how I do about group chats... :\

If only when we joined a group we could have a choice. Turn off the chat, turn on the chat. Announcements only.

Novel ideas.

I have some groups where it seems there is a bunch of active chat and others that aren't really used for it. After a while people seem to learn which groups to chat in and which ones not to.......Big hint to people that are new is don't try chatting in those VIP channels, it does happen but isn't encouraged....I remember when I first started playing I thought the Bad Girls VIP was a chat channel

Actually fornicating....I'm a nun so reality doesn't work for me...seriously..admitting apologies while downputting is a sure way to notch up in the book! And I wasn't actually being rude I was suggesting an alternative...find people interested in doing nothing but sitting in group chat and form your own 24/7 group chat It's a fresh idea and concept.

it kinda depends on how you ask the question. Do you ask it directly or do you beat around the bush and generate tons of useless replies? I recently dumped all the groups I was in for serveral sims, except my home sims. Why? Here's how it went....

Dipsh*t - (instead of asking a qustion outright) Hi....
Fourty other group members - Hello, hiya, how goes?, etc, etc.
Dipsh*t - can I ask a question?
fourty other group members - Sure / ask away / what you need, etc....
Dipsh*t - Finally asks questions, usually something easily found on secondlife.com
Fourty other members - answer it to varying degrees
Then about a billion 'has left the chat' mesages.

I just got tired of it, tired of interruptions when I was a building or trying to chat (without doing the linden leap). I miss periodic announcements that were of value, but the sheer number of clowns that A) won't read the website for info but run to the chat channels, B) won't ask their #&$#%# question without preliminary greetings and chitchat and C) the number of clowns that have to answer every hi back or answer a questiont has already been answered 5 times already...just got to be WAAAY too much. If I were running any groups, I'd punt the first person that decided to chat, chat, chat constantly too.

Useally like in this adoption center group ill ask if anyone wants to hang out and such than i get yelled at its not that im repeating it 504054574854 times i ask once and i go right to it. same for other groups if i have a question i go right to it...

Aww at least be fair...
Group Chat : Anyone want to hang out at a carnival?
*20 people leave chat*
3 mins later ...chat reopens
"Great carnival, anyone want to hang out with me?"
*20 people leave chat*
3 mins later..chat reopens
"We're having an awesome time...neeed some people to come hangout with us"

Well I guess that was right to the point, no beating around the bush............

if your talking about.. when i asked people that i didnt even say that thank you so dont put words in my mouth. take a reality check before making people feel bad for things that havent done its a freakin game get over it if u dont like it than get off the game.

Well, there you go, silly.
Adoption group=for talking about adoption
It's not there to find people to "hang out"
No wonder you keep getting kicked out of groups. Perhaps you need friends?

I feel like there's not enough information here. How frequently did you post? What did you post (advertisement versus personal question, etc.)?

I think the key may also be moderation. If you ask the same thing every few hours over the course of a couple of days, eventually people will get annoyed. If I have a question or request on a group, I'll ask it once, maybe twice, and with a fair amount of time between (say, morning and evening). It has worked well for me.

Mari

Of course that wasn't direct quotes..there were no major loaded typo's and direct quotes is indisclosure resulting in suspensions and what not
Actually all I have done is respond to YOUR post whining about groups yelling at you and tried again....to make you see the light.....so in your own words...get over it if u don't like it than get off the game.

You guys were pretty rude. I asked a question you dont needa put people down for EVERY SINGLE post they post.
Like wtf is up with that... learn some manners. jesus.

There are two factors at work here, Elizabeth. I think the main one has been covered pretty well in this thread- that being, many (most?) groups have a specific purpose. Discussions that adhere to that purpose are fine, but people get irritated by off-topic chatter. Some groups are very specific- for example, the TeaZers Student group is for TeaZer's teachers to announce classes, and perhaps for a student to ask about an upcoming class.

The second factor is that there are currently rather limited tools in the Second Life client for managing all the chatter. I can't "mute" certain groups temporarily, for example. Or maybe have groups with "moderators" such that I can filter everything except the moderator announcements. If I'm having a nice conversation with someone, my IM chatter ends up taking over making it hard to follow the conversation I currently want to pay attention to.

For now, the rule of thumb is...look at the stated purpose of the group. If it says "an open forum to chat about whatever interests you", then chattering is fine (although "spamming"- gratuitous dumping of repetitive junk in the chat- is not). If it says "a group for students wishing to hear announcements regarding TeaZer University classes", then keep your chatter somewhere else.


And maybe one day we'll have better IM / group message management tools: that won't eliminate the need to adhere to the purpose of the group, but it would probably make people a bit less sensitive to the "noise".

Some of us set our IMs to show mixed in with regular chat. This works great when you're just trying to make sure you don't miss IM's from the important people in your life, but when a really big group gets going, your screen just gets flooded. That's great if you're interested in what's going on but not so much if its 'ooops, I meant to pm someone else'. My biggest reason for setting things to mix in is so that I can still scroll back through history and get that store name or URL someone gave me in IM an hour ago but I closed the window to. The history is good for that if you don't log or crash out.

I leave the groups that 'really' spam, like anything that announces events I won't go to anyway every day, but then, I don't have enough group space for those anyway.

Char

I, on the other hand, love that my favorite club has announcements each night letting me know what the contests are.

It is all about finding groups that work with your style. You may need to be a little flexible in you approach to listening to the groups wishes.... unless you make your own group.

I understand but cant they advertise there self.. as DONT TALK or something
not just keep quite and wait till someone does something than yell at them... wouldnt it be rather easy to announce it when people are able to join that group. or tell them when they... send u a group invite