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Nicola Samiam
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Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 142
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01-12-2007 10:10
Thanks Kelly, So, if I understand you correctly, this is an unstoppable generic message that indicates an unspecified problem with.... objects? parcels? inventory? that is generated only when I'm offline, so it's not something I could identify and fix when I'm online. It's a "valid message" that indicates a "valid problem", but nobody knows from the message what the problem is. And it IM's me dozens of times and can't be stopped or muted. Hmmm. Very useful! - Is there a Bill Linden by any chance who comes up with with these type of useful error messages?  [Edit] Muting Object "Second Life" works though! - Obviously not ideal but a temporary fix until the fix is fixed (or the message is more useful, and the fix is fixable). |
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Kelly Linden
Linden Developer
Join date: 29 Mar 2004
Posts: 896
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01-12-2007 13:25
Here is what is happening:
An object you own in the specified region is trying to do something it can not. One of the following:
- Move onto a full parcel
- Move onto a parcel where you are not allowed*
- Rez on a full parcel
- Rez onto a parcel you are not allowed*
The messages from these errors are sent directly to your client if you are in the region, or nearby.
When too many of these messages are triggered a seperate throttle message is triggered to tell you that we aren't going to tell you about the original messages for a while. This is the only one that will get sent to email, and thus if you aren't in the sim it is the only one you will see. Right now all 4 cases fall through the same throttle with the same message. So it isn't very helpful. That will be fixed, and throttles will last longer.
* The rules for 'are you allowed' are subtly different when you are online vs offline with regards to groups. While you are nearby the region knows all about all of your groups, and these rules can be applied to your objects moving around the sim. When you are offline the only information available is the object the group is set to.
Consider this scenario:
- You are in groups A and B
- You can only rez objects on parcel P because you are a member of group A.
- Your vendor that rezes objects is set to group B
- Your vendor is sitting on group A land
In this case, while you are online the system works and you can rez, while you are offline it doesn't work and you can't.
I realize this can be confusing, but it seemed like a good idea to let objects do anything you can do while online, even if it requires data that isn't part of the object it self. The alternative is that it always behaves in the current 'offline' case, even when you are online.
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- Kelly Linden
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