Second Life gone bad?
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coax4208 Spinnaker
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Join date: 4 Jul 2004
Posts: 12
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06-02-2005 10:52
I am writing to say I think yes. Ever since the suposed economy fix SL has become boring. There now are no good contests because lindens took all the suport away from the events worth going to and gave it to the ones avoided, I believe alot of SLians liked taking a break from boring work and learning to go and have some fun at events. Now the only events worth going to are tringo or bingo what fun is that when some peoples like my computer freeze and you couldnt win if you were the best. I like the best avatar events and all the other fun and imaginative events people with thier own clubs made. Why would you think taking money away from the club owners fix the economy. Why not raise the ammount of lindens and raise the rate of transfer in GOM. This way we could still have fun and the economy would benifit from the harder to buy/sell lindens and merchandise so what if the prices go up atleast we have something to do untill we have the money to buy such things. I have went from playing the game hours and hours a day to not even playing once a day and I am dissapointed over all this. BRING BACK CLUB SUPORT AND LOWER RATE FEES 
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Jamie Bergman
SL's Largest Distributor
Join date: 17 Feb 2005
Posts: 1,752
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06-02-2005 12:05
Dude, the Lindens have no control over the price of GOM - its set by the invisible hand of the free market.
I suppose they could be like China and sell L$ directly from LL at a fixed price.... though that would mean the end of GOM and the free market.
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Hiro Queso
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Join date: 23 Feb 2005
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06-02-2005 12:15
You're also asking LL to change the whole SL economy in the hope it will benefit a small (altho important) part of it, with no regard for other areas.
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Deklax Fairplay
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Join date: 2 Jul 2004
Posts: 357
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06-02-2005 12:24
From: Jamie Bergman Dude, the Lindens have no control over the price of GOM - its set by the invisible hand of the free market. You've got to be kidding =P
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Ghoti Nyak
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Join date: 7 Aug 2004
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06-02-2005 12:31
From: Deklax Fairplay You've got to be kidding =P He's right. All that giving funding to the clubs did was fill the Events listing with 'Best in Red', 'Best Undressed' etc contests with the fund often split 50/50 to a male and female winner. The 'excuse for a party' fund, as it were. I believe LL made the right decision by making these events stand on their own two feet... which most of them could not, so they are no longer happening. -Ghoti
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Deklax Fairplay
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Join date: 2 Jul 2004
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06-02-2005 13:18
Try reading my post again in the context of the quoted selection.
I said nothing about event funding, but I think SL will be better off.
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Torley Linden
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Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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06-02-2005 13:20
I'm interested in a one-year retrospective on this, to see how things have unfolded in regards to events in SL. It'll be fascinating.
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Ghoti Nyak
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06-02-2005 13:20
No. You addressed GOM. My first sentance only stated that he was correct that LL does not control the GOM price. The rest of my post went on to address the original poster.
Sorry for the confusion.
-Ghoti
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Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
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06-02-2005 13:49
Doing all those inflationary things WOULD effect the GOM exchange rate ..
In the opposite direction the Original Poster wants it to go.
It would pour lots more Lindens into the economy and reduce demand for Lindins (since they would be easier to get)
THis would send the L$ real life value downward.
Would reduce the advantage of sponsoring events since that money would mean much less.
Leading to a need for HIGHER event funding ..
.. and so on ..
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Forseti Svarog
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Join date: 2 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,730
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06-02-2005 14:06
you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time
There are some residents who don't really understand the economics at work and will feel that their game has gone downhill. It doesn't matter whether it is this issue or another issue. There's not really anything Linden Lab can do about that without bastardizing their goals.
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Hiro Queso
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Join date: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 2,753
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06-02-2005 14:17
From: Ghoti Nyak No. You addressed GOM. My first sentance only stated that he was correct that LL does not control the GOM price.
-Ghoti I think Trifen was commenting to the opposite, well pretty much. The poster he replied to worded it a little different and stated that LL have NO control over the value of the L$.
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Jenna Fairplay
Sim Sales Broker
Join date: 8 Aug 2004
Posts: 374
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06-02-2005 14:28
From: coax4208 Spinnaker I am writing to say I think yes. Ever since the suposed economy fix SL has become boring. There now are no good contests because lindens took all the suport away from the events worth going to and gave it to the ones avoided, I believe alot of SLians liked taking a break from boring work and learning to go and have some fun at events. Now the only events worth going to are tringo or bingo what fun is that when some peoples like my computer freeze and you couldnt win if you were the best. I like the best avatar events and all the other fun and imaginative events people with thier own clubs made. Why would you think taking money away from the club owners fix the economy. Why not raise the ammount of lindens and raise the rate of transfer in GOM. This way we could still have fun and the economy would benifit from the harder to buy/sell lindens and merchandise so what if the prices go up atleast we have something to do untill we have the money to buy such things. I have went from playing the game hours and hours a day to not even playing once a day and I am dissapointed over all this. BRING BACK CLUB SUPORT AND LOWER RATE FEES  There is a lot of truth to what Coax says. Before I was able to throw a variety of fun events from your oh so blah sexy av event, boxing, musical squares, raffle events and othes. Plus I was openning Next Level a gaming venue were I had prim wars amongst many other newly invented games. After support was cut my events at the club went from some what variety to more sexy av and cute av why? because now the only thing that supports events are the vendors who pay to have their stuff sold there. I use to charge little if no rent to my vendors cause I myself am a vendor and like to have them at my club. So to keep my vendors income good to where they are willing to pay rent means I must bring in the masses and that is done with your basic events. I still offer my vendors perks on the side cause they have been with me a long time and I appreciate them. As for Next Level it closed just as fast as it openned  . Unless a game didnt give a good linden prize at the end or allow for mass players it got old and died out, plus not many of my staff would host other events cause there was no more event support. Many new places that open that I have seen are great. From fish to the who wants to be a Lindionare *spelling off Im sure* however they will have a hard enough time hosting and putting out linden prices without it costing them real world dollars cause now all new venue owners must support everything from host to prizes themselves. That is what I call a bit of Reganomics where the rich who were already established and have a feedback system to support their venue. I still feel that there should be a scaled support system. If linden want more variety offer support more to educational and then scale it down offering less to event categories they dont want. I put up a poll and it got shot down  so Ill just go on doing what I do to support more SL players. If you think there is money to be made by having a top venue think again  Im about to name my first born after GOM 
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Ghoti Nyak
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Join date: 7 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,078
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06-02-2005 14:36
From: Hiro Queso I think Trifen was commenting to the opposite, well pretty much. The poster he replied to worded it a little different and stated that LL have NO control over the value of the L$. Trifen? I dont see that name in the thread. Anyway... I dont see where the confusion is coming from... perhaps I'm not stating myself clearly, so I'll try again. From: Jamie Bergman Dude, the Lindens have no control over the price of GOM - its set by the invisible hand of the free market. He's right. From: coax4208 Spinnaker BRING BACK CLUB SUPORT AND LOWER RATE FEES All that giving funding to the clubs did was fill the Events listing with 'Best in Red', 'Best Undressed' etc contests with the fund often split 50/50 to a male and female winner. The 'excuse for a party' fund, as it were. I believe LL made the right decision by making these events stand on their own two feet... which most of them could not, so they are no longer happening. If that does not make my thoughts clear as glass, I do not know what will. -Ghoti
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Hiro Queso
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Join date: 23 Feb 2005
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06-02-2005 14:46
From: Ghoti Nyak Trifen? I dont see that name in the thread. ack I must be havin land dealer hallucinations again lol. My apologies, the post I was referring to was the one by Deklax. Although LL has no direct influence on the value of the L$ at GOM, I think his post was referring to the HUGE indirect influence they have.
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Trifen Fairplay
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Join date: 19 Jul 2004
Posts: 321
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06-10-2005 13:01
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Deklax Fairplay
Black Sun
Join date: 2 Jul 2004
Posts: 357
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06-10-2005 14:18
From: Hiro Queso ack I must be havin land dealer hallucinations again lol. My apologies, the post I was referring to was the one by Deklax.
Although LL has no direct influence on the value of the L$ at GOM, I think his post was referring to the HUGE indirect influence they have. Haha. Yes.
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