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AKA Fool

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Join date: 25 Jul 2004

Posts: 88

04-13-2005 11:45

After talking with a linden who will remain nameless i have managed to find out that the new event posting consists of this

you can now only hold events on all parcels 512 m and over that 1) you own, OR 2) one of your groups own..

within any continuous 24 hour period, you can only have 3...

DELETED events WILL COUNT AGAINST THESE 3, as to prevent event spamming...also: Within any continuous 24 hour period, any parcel can only have 3 scheduled events...
Each individual has up to three, and each parcel has up to three as well

basically the only people that can sot events are the land owners or a deeded group members can hold a event on the parcel that is deeded but only 3 events from anyone on that parcel per 24 hour period

the downside of deeded land in groups is anyone of that group could if they wanted put the land up for sale for say 1 linden and buy it them selfs and you have not got a thing you can do so deeded land to groups is very un wise unless you really trust your group members thats my opinion

so all these places that have clubs and have paid out lots of lindens and there monthly tier can only host 3 events per day and by the owner only

Dreams Lightcloud

Skirt Flirt

Join date: 6 May 2004

Posts: 140

04-13-2005 12:06

Yes, this is how the new event posting rules have been explained to me, as well.

I think this system might be ok for land plots (Although a better solution would be to give land plot owners the same *estates* tools as sim owners have). However, I think that this new system is totally unacceptable for sim owners who paid out 1000USD for the sim and then 200USD per mo per sim.

Sim owners already have the tools to control who can post events on their land. You must be placed on estates by the sim owner in order to post an event on their land. After which, the Lindens could just monitor the events board better (if that's the real issue in this case).

I know if I held that much land, I surely wouldn't want to deed 512sqm of it (or more - not sure how it works with a sim) to people that I only know on the internet. As you brought out - if someone sells it, how would you get it back? You deeded it to them...

I hope this system will be further reviewed.

Travis Lambert

White dog, red collar

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

04-13-2005 12:48

I am so freaking mad right now I don't even know what to say.

I don't do Tringo.... I don't host spammy events. I have volunteers that donate their time because they believe in what we do.

I can't even do 3 events per day now - because the events I posted the day before (24 hour period) count against me now.

So while the rule is 3 - in practice, I can really only do 2 - If i want my events to be at the same time every day.

I spend 30+ hours of my time per week working on the Shelter - its a labor of love....

BUT THIS SUCKS THE FUN RIGHT OUT OF IT

Great Job, LL

Buster Peel

Spat the dummy.

Join date: 7 Feb 2005

Posts: 1,242

04-13-2005 13:10

I think that limiting the number of events is a GOOD thing. Hourly Tringo is not an "event". (Maybe 3 is too low?)

Here's the problem: People who host events need talent or skills. They are people who DO THINGS for a living, not people who OWN THINGS for a living. (So to speak. It isn't really "a living". At least not yet.)

Somehow, a venue owner must be able to deligate the right to list and host events for a plot of land separately from the ownership of the land. That way people who build and own gathering places can hire or sponsor event HOSTS. That has to be safe and easy, or nobody will do it, and you'll end up with only events that land owners do themselves, such as Tringo.

Buster

AKA Fool

Me

Join date: 25 Jul 2004

Posts: 88

04-13-2005 13:25

From: Chloe Platini

when the LL took away support for events everyone were saying oh yeah less thong events more teaching events? i dont see any do you? thers still contests and major increase in Tringo and bingo.... but what can you do .. thers no SUPPORT for it they are paying from their pocket or getting payed for hosting the event... then why not let it be...

making this change with out ASKING US... or atleast some kind of WARNING was just wrong... why not have the owner decided who they want to let host on their land... if LL doesnt want to see 100 tringo games a day and 50 contests on one event list, then they might want to break it up into categories.... games,contests,classes... what do they care about all this event anyways ... they are not hosting them, they are not paying for them, they are not attending them, they are not paying for the land the events are being held....so if people want to have events they should be able to do so with no questions asked...and maybe instead of worrying about events they should be fixing lag and bugs... ghosting promised gone? err try again i seen ghosted objects, alpha texture bug promised gone? uhm not really... ban list bug? i think thers MUCH more important things to be taken care of first then adding some dumb-ass rules who no1 likes... they are not making the game fun they are just slowly ruining it for everyone...

well said Chloe
i couldnt have writen it better myself

there isin deed far more more pressing stuff then the event listings if someone could tell me how to start a vote i would i vote to leave the event posting the way it was or implement the catagory changes so thats 1 vote to leave it as they was any more???

carry on the way your going LL and just watch what hapens to second life it will be exactly the same as there.com they implemted change for the worse and now look at there.com a dead boring place with the same stuff day in and day out no events just the boring same old people you had a mad exit to leave there and come here because there wasno other place like there only here but yourgoing to drive people away to new stuff suck as the matrix online and other up and coming 3d multiplayer online communitys you cant be top dog for ever

but your going the right way about loosing your paying members more quickly cause you just dont get it

IF ITS NOT BROKE WHY TRY AND FIX IT it only makes itworse leave stuff that isnt broken alone and fix the stuff that is first then ask the members there opinions first not just do it then ask

AKA FOOL

p.s someone want to exsplain how i set a voting poll please im me in game thanks

Kasandra Morgan

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Join date: 17 Mar 2004

Posts: 639

04-13-2005 13:32

*does a happy dance* I love the new system.

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Kasandra Morgan

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04-13-2005 13:35

From: Buster Peel

I think that limiting the number of events is a GOOD thing. Hourly Tringo is not an "event". (Maybe 3 is too low?)

Here's the problem: People who host events need talent or skills. They are people who DO THINGS for a living, not people who OWN THINGS for a living. (So to speak. It isn't really "a living". At least not yet.)

Somehow, a venue owner must be able to deligate the right to list and host events for a plot of land separately from the ownership of the land. That way people who build and own gathering places can hire or sponsor event HOSTS. That has to be safe and easy, or nobody will do it, and you'll end up with only events that land owners do themselves, such as Tringo.

Buster

Three per person or group is not too few events. I mean come on, they are EVENTS. Doing something three bloody times a day everyday is not an event. Its the same ole same ole.

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AKA Fool

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Join date: 25 Jul 2004

Posts: 88

04-13-2005 13:42

From: Kasandra Morgan

*does a happy dance* I love the new system.

what a totaly negitive reply thousands of peope pay to have there own land and to share that land with there friends and family so by taking the ability to host events just by the owner and not let there friends host on there land is very bad after all its the member who pays linden labs and wasnt linden labs moto not a community built buy the people owned by the people ??? well obvioulsy it isnt

aka fool

Sparkely Sugar

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Join date: 14 Mar 2005

Posts: 2

04-13-2005 14:02

From: Buster Peel

I think that limiting the number of events is a GOOD thing. Hourly Tringo is not an "event". (Maybe 3 is too low?)

Here's the problem: People who host events need talent or skills. They are people who DO THINGS for a living, not people who OWN THINGS for a living. (So to speak. It isn't really "a living". At least not yet.)

Buster

I take alot of offense to this comment I have several skills I design, build as well as many other things, if you have not hosted an event that you have no clue a good host has to have skills to manage and run a smooth event, keep people entertained and handle interpersoanl problems that arise during events. Your comment is ignorant, rude and offensive.

Chloe Platini

MEOW

Join date: 16 Sep 2004

Posts: 332

04-13-2005 14:28

From: Sparkely Sugar

I take alot of offense to this comment I have several skills I design, build as well as many other things, if you have not hosted an event that you have no clue a good host has to have skills to manage and run a smooth event, keep people entertained and handle interpersoanl problems that arise during events. Your comment is ignorant, rude and offensive.

i agree with you too Sparkely ... many of the hosts i know have skills, they are either designers, builders, scriptors or w.e .. i myself am a designer and im learning to build little by little & i host events from time to time. just because some people host doesnt mean they have no talent, some most likely didnt discover it yet and they host to make a few Ls. When i was a noob thats how i started out not knowing one day ill find my "talent"

Event posting new rules exsplained as far as ive been told
AKA Fool Me Join date: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 88	04-13-2005 11:45 After talking with a linden who will remain nameless i have managed to find out that the new event posting consists of this you can now only hold events on all parcels 512 m and over that 1) you own, OR 2) one of your groups own.. within any continuous 24 hour period, you can only have 3... DELETED events WILL COUNT AGAINST THESE 3, as to prevent event spamming...also: Within any continuous 24 hour period, any parcel can only have 3 scheduled events... Each individual has up to three, and each parcel has up to three as well basically the only people that can sot events are the land owners or a deeded group members can hold a event on the parcel that is deeded but only 3 events from anyone on that parcel per 24 hour period the downside of deeded land in groups is anyone of that group could if they wanted put the land up for sale for say 1 linden and buy it them selfs and you have not got a thing you can do so deeded land to groups is very un wise unless you really trust your group members thats my opinion so all these places that have clubs and have paid out lots of lindens and there monthly tier can only host 3 events per day and by the owner only
Dreams Lightcloud Skirt Flirt Join date: 6 May 2004 Posts: 140	04-13-2005 12:06 Yes, this is how the new event posting rules have been explained to me, as well. I think this system might be ok for land plots (Although a better solution would be to give land plot owners the same estates tools as sim owners have). However, I think that this new system is totally unacceptable for sim owners who paid out 1000USD for the sim and then 200USD per mo per sim. Sim owners already have the tools to control who can post events on their land. You must be placed on estates by the sim owner in order to post an event on their land. After which, the Lindens could just monitor the events board better (if that's the real issue in this case). I know if I held that much land, I surely wouldn't want to deed 512sqm of it (or more - not sure how it works with a sim) to people that I only know on the internet. As you brought out - if someone sells it, how would you get it back? You deeded it to them... I hope this system will be further reviewed.
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	04-13-2005 12:48 I am so freaking mad right now I don't even know what to say. I don't do Tringo.... I don't host spammy events. I have volunteers that donate their time because they believe in what we do. I can't even do 3 events per day now - because the events I posted the day before (24 hour period) count against me now. So while the rule is 3 - in practice, I can really only do 2 - If i want my events to be at the same time every day. I spend 30+ hours of my time per week working on the Shelter - its a labor of love.... BUT THIS SUCKS THE FUN RIGHT OUT OF IT Great Job, LL
Buster Peel Spat the dummy. Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,242	04-13-2005 13:10 I think that limiting the number of events is a GOOD thing. Hourly Tringo is not an "event". (Maybe 3 is too low?) Here's the problem: People who host events need talent or skills. They are people who DO THINGS for a living, not people who OWN THINGS for a living. (So to speak. It isn't really "a living". At least not yet.) Somehow, a venue owner must be able to deligate the right to list and host events for a plot of land separately from the ownership of the land. That way people who build and own gathering places can hire or sponsor event HOSTS. That has to be safe and easy, or nobody will do it, and you'll end up with only events that land owners do themselves, such as Tringo. Buster
AKA Fool Me Join date: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 88	04-13-2005 13:25 From: Chloe Platini when the LL took away support for events everyone were saying oh yeah less thong events more teaching events? i dont see any do you? thers still contests and major increase in Tringo and bingo.... but what can you do .. thers no SUPPORT for it they are paying from their pocket or getting payed for hosting the event... then why not let it be... making this change with out ASKING US... or atleast some kind of WARNING was just wrong... why not have the owner decided who they want to let host on their land... if LL doesnt want to see 100 tringo games a day and 50 contests on one event list, then they might want to break it up into categories.... games,contests,classes... what do they care about all this event anyways ... they are not hosting them, they are not paying for them, they are not attending them, they are not paying for the land the events are being held....so if people want to have events they should be able to do so with no questions asked...and maybe instead of worrying about events they should be fixing lag and bugs... ghosting promised gone? err try again i seen ghosted objects, alpha texture bug promised gone? uhm not really... ban list bug? i think thers MUCH more important things to be taken care of first then adding some dumb-ass rules who no1 likes... they are not making the game fun they are just slowly ruining it for everyone... well said Chloe i couldnt have writen it better myself there isin deed far more more pressing stuff then the event listings if someone could tell me how to start a vote i would i vote to leave the event posting the way it was or implement the catagory changes so thats 1 vote to leave it as they was any more??? carry on the way your going LL and just watch what hapens to second life it will be exactly the same as there.com they implemted change for the worse and now look at there.com a dead boring place with the same stuff day in and day out no events just the boring same old people you had a mad exit to leave there and come here because there wasno other place like there only here but yourgoing to drive people away to new stuff suck as the matrix online and other up and coming 3d multiplayer online communitys you cant be top dog for ever but your going the right way about loosing your paying members more quickly cause you just dont get it IF ITS NOT BROKE WHY TRY AND FIX IT it only makes itworse leave stuff that isnt broken alone and fix the stuff that is first then ask the members there opinions first not just do it then ask AKA FOOL p.s someone want to exsplain how i set a voting poll please im me in game thanks
Kasandra Morgan Self-Declared Goddess Join date: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 639	04-13-2005 13:32 does a happy dance I love the new system. _____________________ SL Exchange \| Second Server \| In World Casino Games, Prefab Houses, Clothes and Furniture
Kasandra Morgan Self-Declared Goddess Join date: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 639	04-13-2005 13:35 From: Buster Peel I think that limiting the number of events is a GOOD thing. Hourly Tringo is not an "event". (Maybe 3 is too low?) Here's the problem: People who host events need talent or skills. They are people who DO THINGS for a living, not people who OWN THINGS for a living. (So to speak. It isn't really "a living". At least not yet.) Somehow, a venue owner must be able to deligate the right to list and host events for a plot of land separately from the ownership of the land. That way people who build and own gathering places can hire or sponsor event HOSTS. That has to be safe and easy, or nobody will do it, and you'll end up with only events that land owners do themselves, such as Tringo. Buster Three per person or group is not too few events. I mean come on, they are EVENTS. Doing something three bloody times a day everyday is not an event. Its the same ole same ole. _____________________ SL Exchange \| Second Server \| In World Casino Games, Prefab Houses, Clothes and Furniture
AKA Fool Me Join date: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 88	04-13-2005 13:42 From: Kasandra Morgan does a happy dance I love the new system. what a totaly negitive reply thousands of peope pay to have there own land and to share that land with there friends and family so by taking the ability to host events just by the owner and not let there friends host on there land is very bad after all its the member who pays linden labs and wasnt linden labs moto not a community built buy the people owned by the people ??? well obvioulsy it isnt aka fool
Sparkely Sugar Registered User Join date: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 2	04-13-2005 14:02 From: Buster Peel I think that limiting the number of events is a GOOD thing. Hourly Tringo is not an "event". (Maybe 3 is too low?) Here's the problem: People who host events need talent or skills. They are people who DO THINGS for a living, not people who OWN THINGS for a living. (So to speak. It isn't really "a living". At least not yet.) Buster I take alot of offense to this comment I have several skills I design, build as well as many other things, if you have not hosted an event that you have no clue a good host has to have skills to manage and run a smooth event, keep people entertained and handle interpersoanl problems that arise during events. Your comment is ignorant, rude and offensive.
Chloe Platini MEOW Join date: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 332	04-13-2005 14:28 From: Sparkely Sugar I take alot of offense to this comment I have several skills I design, build as well as many other things, if you have not hosted an event that you have no clue a good host has to have skills to manage and run a smooth event, keep people entertained and handle interpersoanl problems that arise during events. Your comment is ignorant, rude and offensive. i agree with you too Sparkely ... many of the hosts i know have skills, they are either designers, builders, scriptors or w.e .. i myself am a designer and im learning to build little by little & i host events from time to time. just because some people host doesnt mean they have no talent, some most likely didnt discover it yet and they host to make a few Ls. When i was a noob thats how i started out not knowing one day ill find my "talent"

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