Land size and Prim limits

Please help, am a basic mamber, thinking of upgrading. I am starting to understand a little about Prim limits, but after browsing the forums, am now completly confused.

I am wanting to build a (yet another) club, and with conversations with a few club owners, am guessing i need about an 1800 prim limit.

Originally, I thought if i bought 1800 Sq. m, it would be about right, but apparently not....

I gather some land areas have more prim allowance / sq m than others.... is there an easy way to find them, or do u have to visit prety much all land for sale, and check it out??

Or have i got this all wrong. If there is a standard prim/sq m allowance, what sq m would i need?

Am sure similar things have been asked in past, but have just spent 2 hrs searching the forums, with no joy, and just more questions...lol

Thanks for any help.

The land parcels all have standard prim limits with very few exceptions.
512 has 117, 1024 has 234 etc and no, it does not correlate with the exact meters.

For 1800 prims, let's see you're going to need at least 8192 m2 maybe more -- I have a prim/land calculator for free inworld at my stores or contact me inworld.

There are a few city sims that had higher prim allowances to build high towers, but the land on them is very scarce or non-existent.

There basically is a standard - a tiny number (I think less than 5) have double but you'll never find land there. I'm not even sure land there ends up on the open market.

The land FAQ is what you want.

8,192 m2 will give you 1,875 prims. This will cost you $40 US a month and you'll have to pay a one off cost for the land which you'll probably get back (more or less) when you sell it.

Here's what you need to know: Each region (except some double-limit city regions, but there are only four of them) allows 15,000 prims. There are 65,536 square meters per region. The prim alotment is divided evenly across each square meter.

Every piece of land you own in a single region adds to your prim allowance in that region. So if you had 1024m2 of land spread out in two separate 512m2 plots, you are allowed to use 234 prims on either or both of those plots.

Most people have one plot big enough physically for the build, and if necessary, small bits of "prim land" scattered around the region.

Yes, one trick is to look for water plots for sale which might be cheaper to use as prim farms.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that parcels of land do NOT need to be contiguous for you to use the prim allowance they have. However, they DO need to be in the same sim. So if you are looking for enough land for the prim budget you anticipate, you dont have to look for a large parcel.

You do need to look for land all in the same sim. If you have two parcels adjacent to each other, but there is a sim border between them, you cant just add the prim allocations together. (Besides building on across a sim border isn't recommend, from what I can tell.)

Good luck in your venture

Can I just add that although I don't know what sort of club you are considering, you should buy land in a mature sim.

Alexa

What is a SIM? I thought everyone shared the same areas and there aren't mirrored servers with seperate Instances of areas ala World of Warcraft.

<-- Total Newbie

A sim is a named area. I have a house in the sim named Carolina. The sim is a square area. If I leave that area I go into another sim. Usually you see the sim name at the top of your screen like Carolina (Mature). In terms of WoW, its like walking thru The Barrens and then walking into an adjacent territory like Ashenvale.

If you look on the map, each square is a sim, some PG - ie no nudity or swearing and others are mature where pretty much anything goes.

Alexa

What everyone else said

Also, you can see where you are in relationship to the sim borders around you when you look at the minimap, top righthand corner of the screen. You can open and close the mini-map with the labeled button on the bottom of the screen.

Faster than going to the big map and zooming in.

Also you can tell which direction you are facing when you look at the mini-map ... there will be a very faint cone shape which represents your line of sight.

Hope that helps

When I see the word "SIM" I translate that to mean "Simulation" so it looks like transfering different simulations, or copies of an area. Wouldn't "zone" or "region" be less confusing? Would an entire island be a "sim" as well?

Thanks for helping to explain the terminology everyone...

a sim 65536m2 (m2= meters squared) is a single computer, hooked up to the the LL cluster. a sim on the map will be a simple box shape with a name in the lower left corner, the main grid of the world is comprised of hundreds of sims somewhat seemlessly interconnected into the world you are in. If you want to make a club let me make a few suggestions. (some already mentioned)

for a club you will need land
i suggest using a sandbox (an area of land where you can freely build anything you want)
sandboxes typically have a 24 hour return so anything you build make sure you select it all and use the take option in the pie chart.
build your club in the sand box first, find out what size you want it and how many prims you want to use (prims are primatives which are objects created from the build menu- each cube, sphere or item you create / rezz from the menu is 1 prim )
after you build your club you will have an idea of how much land you will need to support the amount of prims you use.
find some land close to a telehub, if the land isnt close you will have a harder time getting customers to visit. (close to telehubs is 1-2 sims away if you choose a sim that is 5 or so away from the hub icon you will have a harder time being sussessfull)
you will likely want to look for a mature sim (sims are mature or PG) in a PG sim there are rules and guidlines to follow. you need to keep all content PG. exp no porno pics, foul language or similar MATURE type content. mature sims are open for anything you can make and say anything (better suited for a club)

now you will have your club built, you will find some land (hopefully close to a hub) you will hoefully have chosen land that is mature (hover over a sim in the map will tell you if its mature or PG) and your ready to start advertising events, list your events according to LL rules and your ready to go. GL

Hi Mark,

You can do a quick calculation by taking the square meter of the parcel and dividing it by 4.38. This will give you your prim allotment for that parcel.

For example, for a 512m2 plot: 512/4.38=116.89 (round to 117)

If you have a specific number of prims in mind, use that number and multiply by 4.38 to figure out the parcel size you should be shopping for.

For example, for 1800 prims: 1800*4.38=7884 - so you'd need to look for land of at least 7,884m2.

Hmm, your prim calculator sucks for large numbers
Here's some rough math I got from windows calc.
Portugal - 92,391 km2 = 92,391,000,000 m2 = 1409775 sims = 21146625000 prims = 2001 prims per capita... so we all get around 1/8 of a sim - 8741 m2

nice site Juro!