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crucial Armitage
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01-15-2006 17:08
I just noticed the announcement my first question was how many residents would even be able to afford such a bulk purchase. i may be naive here but i don't think there can be more then a hand full that would be able to shell out 40,000 us$. and why would this small hand full of people know better then linden labs what the land should look like?
I'm sure there are many more questions about this just seems rather odd to me that linden labs has all the resources to make wonderful looking landscapes why they would do this.
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Nathan Stewart
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01-15-2006 17:22
From: crucial Armitage I just noticed the announcement my first question was how many residents would even be able to afford such a bulk purchase. i may be naive here but i don't think there can be more then a hand full that would be able to shell out 40,000 us$. and why would this small hand full of people know better then linden labs what the land should look like?
I'm sure there are many more questions about this just seems rather odd to me that linden labs has all the resources to make wonderful looking landscapes why they would do this. I agree with the kind of landscaping you can do in a week before the sims are locked down, the 20k and 10k package has already sold to the same person so the 40k is the last one, i'm just hoping its not the same person who's bought that otherwise its going to be quite a monopoly
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Gabe Lippmann
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01-15-2006 17:59
From: Nathan Stewart I agree with the kind of landscaping you can do in a week before the sims are locked down, the 20k and 10k package has already sold to the same person so the 40k is the last one, i'm just hoping its not the same person who's bought that otherwise its going to be quite a monopoly Well, the Phase II part of the wholesale land auctions has added available smaller lots, 4 blocks of 5 sims and 2 blocks of 10 sims. As for the week time period, if you're going to spend from $5,000-40,000 on something, I hope you don't wait until you have it to figure out what you will do with it.
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Adam Zaius
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01-15-2006 18:11
Would someone care to explain how this is bulk purchasing? Usually, one expects somewhere in the order of 10 to 30% discount when buying from a wholesaler directly (varies with industry of course - but still committing to a fixed minimum spend or order size), but I havnt seen anything of the sort with this experiment. The terraforming and naming is neat and all - but - there is little of a value proposition involved here. If your going to be shelling out that sort of cash, for that much land - which I might add, wont sell all at once, and may over-supply the market (and leave you with a high tier for a few weeks) - you would expect quite a bit more; such as, in no particular order: - Dedicated staff hours allocated to assisting. (Such as Linden artists) - Sevice Level Agreement covering downtime, and doomsday scenarios. - The price discount I mentioned above - Reduced, or limited 'tier' during the setup phase. - etc.
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Kazanture Aleixandre
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01-15-2006 18:22
From: Gabe Lippmann Well, the Phase II part of the wholesale land auctions has added available smaller lots, 4 blocks of 5 sims and 2 blocks of 10 sims.
As for the week time period, if you're going to spend from $5,000-40,000 on something, I hope you don't wait until you have it to figure out what you will do with it. I couldnt see these lots in auction? Am I looking the wrong place?
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Gabe Lippmann
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01-15-2006 18:45
From: Kazanture Aleixandre I couldnt see these lots in auction? Am I looking the wrong place? I don't know if they are there or not, but feel free to check out the announcement /3/92/82272/1.html
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Dana Bergson
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01-15-2006 20:01
From: Gabe Lippmann I don't know if they are there or not, but feel free to check out the announcement /3/92/82272/1.htmlAnnouncements are a cute and important thingy. What is happening after announcing the annoucements is important too: Please look here (unanswered) or here
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Dana Bergson
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01-15-2006 20:11
From: crucial Armitage I'm sure there are many more questions about this just seems rather odd to me that linden labs has all the resources to make wonderful looking landscapes why they would do this. Crucial, your question implies something, that "might" not be so self-evident. Terraforming 100 sims per month requires a lot of resources. And please have a look at the abandoned (or maybe paused) Linden projects in the north: roads, the Great Wall ... A very plausible explanation for what is happening with bulk sales is that LL wants to focus its resources somewhere else.
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Margaret Mfume
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01-15-2006 20:47
From: Dana Bergson Crucial, your question implies something, that "might" not be so self-evident. Terraforming 100 sims per month requires a lot of resources. And please have a look at the abandoned (or maybe paused) Linden projects in the north: roads, the Great Wall ...
A very plausible explanation for what is happening with bulk sales is that LL wants to focus its resources somewhere else. hmmm... Maybe there were cutbacks and that department got laid off! Or maybe they were using illegal immigrants to do the landscaping got caught! Or maybe the gounds crew went on strike and the land barons are crossing the picket line! What other rumors can we start? 
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Smith Peel
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01-15-2006 20:55
From: Adam Zaius Would someone care to explain how this is bulk purchasing? Usually, one expects somewhere in the order of 10 to 30% discount when buying from a wholesaler directly (varies with industry of course - but still committing to a fixed minimum spend or order size), but I havnt seen anything of the sort with this experiment. I've been wondering about that too. The best you could say is that it's... unlikely.. that someone's gonna bid against you on $40,000, but who knows. Anyone can buy a sim for $1,000 on the auctions, unless they are dropping that. I would expect a block of 40 to start at like $36,000 with some major tier discounts.
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Zonax Delorean
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01-16-2006 04:13
From: crucial Armitage I just noticed the announcement my first question was how many residents would even be able to afford such a bulk purchase. i may be naive here but i don't think there can be more then a hand full that would be able to shell out 40,000 us$. and why would this small hand full of people know better then linden labs what the land should look like? Why would a handful or Linden Labs know better what land looks like than a handful of anyone else in the land business? In fact, maybe the land business people know it better. They LIVE only if they can do business. They can do business if they can sell their land (they bought whole terraformed sims recently). I don't think Linden Labs knows land values better -- they probably don't care over too much. If a whole sim auctioned is bought, that's enough. While the 'good businessman' land barons, do (or have to) know how much each type of parcel is worth, what is the most that they can ask so it'll get bought. From: someone I'm sure there are many more questions about this just seems rather odd to me that linden labs has all the resources to make wonderful looking landscapes why they would do this. It's time and energy. That's money.. cost! By doing bulk selling, they're cutting costs. The land baron will have to 'spend more time/energy/money', though, to do terraforming, but that's his/her problem.
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Loki Pico
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01-16-2006 04:26
I guess sqaure and irregular shaped plots surrounded by canals is the most attractive type of land for a new land owner. Maybe it sells, but sure looks out of place as a mainland terrain type though. Bulk land buyers dont have to care what the map forever looks like, they only have to move that land.
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Nathan Stewart
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01-16-2006 06:00
The sims nts 1-40 are the 40 sim auction, this was then changed to 5 sim auctions in the announcement they use nts 1-40 but the auction item wasnt taken off the page and someone has started bidding on these same sims as 40sims, so unless they bring more sims online then the 5 sim auctions may not happen.
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Zonax Delorean
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01-16-2006 08:38
From: Loki Pico I guess sqaure and irregular shaped plots surrounded by canals is the most attractive type of land for a new land owner. Maybe it sells, but sure looks out of place as a mainland terrain type though. Bulk land buyers dont have to care what the map forever looks like, they only have to move that land. Welcome to capitalism, Loki! BTW, I see the same happening in my city -- investors are buying land for for-rent apartments, then build the highest, most crowded (and not too nice) buildings they can get away with. That's business, and profit.
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Dana Bergson
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01-16-2006 11:32
From: Nathan Stewart The sims nts 1-40 are the 40 sim auction, this was then changed to 5 sim auctions in the announcement they use nts 1-40 but the auction item wasnt taken off the page and someone has started bidding on these same sims as 40sims, so unless they bring more sims online then the 5 sim auctions may not happen. Yes, this might have been a glitch inside of SL. Who knows. Such things happen. What is a little dissapointing is the lack of communication in this issue by LL.
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