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Shack Dougall
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12-29-2005 23:39
I'm baffled. Honestly. Why do people think that the Landlord sims are more beautiful than the mainland? I just don't get it. I've been to both. I spend a lot of time in the mainland. I've photographed it extensively here.

There are many private sims that are extraordinarilly beautiful.

The landlord sims are okay, but I can't say that the land is more beautiful in general or the builds...

I'm not saying the mainland is a piece of cake either.

But I just don't understand why there seems to be a "consensus" in the forums that the mainland is so bad. It's filled with beauty.

And maybe the Landlord sims are too, but I haven't found it yet except where a single group rents the whole sim.

Please show me the way. Tell me where I should go to make great photographs in the Non-Linden Rental lands.
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Shack Dougall
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12-29-2005 23:50
I just textured myself in alpha, set phantom to TRUE, and put on the public invisibility prim.

So don't be shy. :D
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Shack Dougall
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12-30-2005 00:38
I guess I posted this too late. I sincerely hope that I awake to a host of new places to visit.

If you want to to talk about zoning, please do. In another thread.

All I want to know is where I can catch some cool pics in Landlord land.
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12-30-2005 00:49
From: Shack Dougall
I guess I posted this too late. I sincerely hope that I awake to a host of new places to visit.

If you want to to talk about zoning, please do. In another thread.

All I want to know is where I can catch some cool pics in Landlord land.




...prob same way as you found the other ones - fly around:-)))

Victoria Falls in Victoria - up north to the border of Geneva are nice - with pick nick set (down) and up at the huger fall there are a fallen tree with diff balls on..

At the left yo have a smaller one. a beaty to... with a nice name.. *smiles*.. Petfalls:-)))

On top you have a nice Falinwater house..
Jesrad Seraph
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12-30-2005 00:51
Isn't this sim beautiful ? (EverLite, a residential and commercial rentals sim)
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Shack Dougall
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12-30-2005 00:57
From: Jesrad Seraph
Isn't this sim beautiful ? (EverLite, a residential and commercial rentals sim)


I don't know. I'll take a look at the sim, but the photo... no ... I can't say it's beautiful in my eyes. sorry.
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Loki Pico
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12-30-2005 01:02
Just because this seems like a good opportunity, I would like to thank you for all your pictures Shack. You have a good eye, you can make the average look good and the spectacular look extrodinary.

Im not sure where to point you in your quest, but Im sure you will find good locations. I always been partial to virgins lands. If you are looking for something different to do, maybe try doing some (more?) buildless landscape work. It will be cool to visit the buildless pics landmarks in a few months and see how they changed. Keep your eye open for new regions.
Forseti Svarog
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12-30-2005 01:09
yes i'll chime in with a thank you. i love your pictures shack. You have a great eye, and an ability to find the picture needle in the haystack.

Some places i've discovered after traveling to the sources of your photos have been fabulous, and some have been less so, but the latter doesn't say that you have made a mistake -- rather it shows that you are an excellent photographer.
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Shack Dougall
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12-30-2005 01:10
Thanks Loki :-) You may have averted disaster. LOL I'm going to bed. :)
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Jesrad Seraph
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12-30-2005 02:33
I'm browsing through your pictures right now, thanks for those, they're absolutely gorgeous :)
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Leah Salome
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12-30-2005 20:44
Go and look at a new sim called Bliss, I've heard its relaly nice :)
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12-30-2005 20:49
From: Jesrad Seraph
Isn't this sim beautiful ? (EverLite, a residential and commercial rentals sim)


Yes.
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Michael Seraph
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12-30-2005 20:51
The bridge in Azure Islands is one of my favorite views in the Landlord Sims.
Pham Neutra
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12-30-2005 23:38
From: Shack Dougall
I'm baffled. Honestly. Why do people think that the Landlord sims are more beautiful than the mainland? I just don't get it. I've been to both. I spend a lot of time in the mainland. I've photographed it extensively here.

There are many private sims that are extraordinarilly beautiful.
Shack, I hope I get the quote right in english, but I'll try anyway:
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!" :)


I have to admit that I consider the pictures you made very beautiful indeed, but tastes differ. And one thing, I really noticed when exploring in SL is, that most of the new mainland sims detoriate very fast in a few weeks after they are coming on the market. Even the most beautiful waterfront areas look like a trailer park after a few weeks of heavy terraforming, landscaping, setting up Astroturf islands along the shoreline etc. There are spots of beauty, but they often drown in the egotistical activities of the neighbours. Nobody cares what the neighbours do. It is mostly "This is my land and I can f***ing do here as I f***ing please!"

Its is easier of course to have large areas in one theme (if I deem it beautiful or not) on a private sim. This is a costly endavour of course.

If you look at the private "continents" or the big land barons you see two different patterns emerge:

A): Some sims are cut into an endless patchwork or "your island in the sun", little flecks of land, sized some 2000 or 4000 sqm surrounded by a little water and then the next island. This is not that much different from the mainland. Just that the parcels are bigger, landscape is a little easier to build on and the kind of landscape is more attractive to the common taste. And no, I don't think this is bad. It is what sells/rents best. That is, why it is setup that way.

B): Then there are those land barons which really have "a concept". A few private islands are put together as a larger whole and some zoning rules are enforced. The biggest projects of this kind are undeniably Azure (yes, that bridge and the net of streets is really cool, Michael) and of course Anshe's Dreamland - at least in some areas. Other areas in Dreamland are those typical island collections, too.

And maybe I am biased, because I lived on Dreamland for a while but I actually think the combination of Anshe's original landscaping with the enforcement of some zoning rules does lead to a more regular, IMHO more pleasant, overall impression. Others might call it boooooring. ;)

The "northern styled sims", Victoria, Friesland, Geneva, Hamlet etc., her asian sims and the A'ksha sims are really, really beautiful. Not because of some singular builds or parcels but as an overal work.

But, as I said: thats (very) personal opinion. Everyone finds his or her own form of beauty.
Osprey Therian
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12-31-2005 17:10
I'm much more interested in the mainland than in anything else. Places there have their ups and downs, with the ups being higher than Landlord sim "ups," and the low points correspondingly low. Variety is the spice of life.
Margot Abattoir
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you're right Shack...
01-01-2006 02:35
The mainland, although pocked with eyesores, is also studded with some of the most beautiful and artistic designs in SL. And it's going through its stages or growing pains.

Azure Island seems to lack that nth degree beauty thing, but also lacks the eyesores, so is good if you want a lot away from that obviously, perhaps not to create a wonder, but a brief ordinary respite. Dreamland is lovely. Extremely. And is the closest to the mainland, I think, in having a jewel here and there to make it not only 'impeach bush safe' but artistically interesting as well. I look to Dreamland to foster more and more of what the mainland has in the way of PLEASANT aesthetic surprises.

But yes. Nothing will out the creations of some of the best designers I've ever seen. Those who decorate the mainland. Perhaps the relative unabashed freedom of the mainland is what gives the artist's mind that extra spark it needs to create. Either that...or trying to hide a bright purple dance club :))
Kim Anubis
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01-01-2006 14:00
I've seen some great stuff on island sims, but I really, really love the mainland sim where I live. I've been invited by friends to get together on buying an island, but I stay on my patch of mainland snow. I go for walks all the time, sometimes with friends, usually with my dog, checking out what's new in the neighborhood and chatting with neighbors. There's always something pretty to see. One of my favorite neighbors ever had bought a whole sim, and he recently sold it and came back and put in a beautiful barn and a primmy winter mountain and all kinds of stuff! Yay Joey!

Sure, with no zoning and all sorts of land owners and land being bought and sold all the time, the sim could go to hell. It hasn't in the year and a half the sim's been on the grid, though, and I don't think it will . . . I think a little neighborliness goes a long way.
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