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Prokofy Neva

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04-19-2005 09:05

From: someone

Increase ANWR Autoreturn Time, Please.

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Due to the actions of certain people blocking the primrig well, (and others I guess, but I know of this incident particularly) the autoreturn for ANWR was first enabled. This was set at 30 minutes, which seemed reasonable enough, if someone left something around it would get cleaned up eventually.

It also fostered a growing number of people that liked to stop their vehicles on the rig, tweak them a bit, and then move on, perhaps even rezzing new parts and incorporating them into their vehicles. This emergent behavior was quite cool, and I enjoyed that a lot.

Then the red cargo crate appeared on the rig, which I fully supported and thought was a pretty cool idea, the prim usage was minimal and could be easily covered by the sim. You could even make the arguement that since the person involved had enough land elsewhere with prim allocation he wasn't using, that he did cover the 'cost' to Linden Lab, albeit in a different sim than what the container was rezzed in.

Then, for some reason, the autoreturn was reduced severely to 5 minutes. The primrig is dry, no prims flow out of it for some reason (unrelated to the return, just thought I'd mention it.) and now hardly anyone stops by anymore, and not because of the new telehub either.

I know you don't have to do what I ask, but I was hoping you would anyway, since LL has been proven to be cool about things like this, and not just adhere to some 'letter of the law' policy.

Please consider increasing the autoreturn back to what it had been, at 30 minutes.

Thanks for reading, admins.

Lindens, I have land where I'm not using prims, too, and I wonder, could I add my House Parts sale on to your air crash build and have it STAY. Geez. I even help make it look more crashy! Come on, I know you are cool about things like this!

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Kris Ritter

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04-19-2005 09:15

damn it! I feel cheated

I read the title and was hoping it was an interesting discussion on microfiche accession numbers.

No. I know no one else is gunna get that, either.

Ingrid Ingersoll

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04-19-2005 10:53

From: Prokofy Neva

Lindens, I have land where I'm not using prims, too, and I wonder, could I add my House Parts sale on to your air crash build and have it STAY. Geez. I even help make it look more crashy! Come on, I know you are cool about things like this!

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Prokofy Neva

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04-19-2005 10:55

From: someone

NEWSFLASH: Only Prokofy may make suggestions to the Lindens. Anyone elses concerns are moot.
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No. I concede Maxx's right to go on making demands of the Lindens for preserving his precocious preciosity.

But I just want equal time and equal rights, is all.

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Chris Wilde

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04-19-2005 11:01

So whats the story here? This guy posted because no one was hanging out somewhere? Was someone benefiting financially from the crowds that hung out there via direct sells or advertising? I just dont see the point of the original complaint to the Lindens. If people dont hang there then they are somewhere else. Go find them where-ever or give them a reason to hang out on the rig or any location.

Maxx Monde

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04-19-2005 11:03

Prok, it was a suggestion, and noted accordingly. I won't be posting whinescraper screeds if they don't do it, I'll just ask 'pretty please' and see if they will or not. If not, I'll build as always, with nary a tear shed.

You really should concern yourself with other things, though I'm *so* flattered you can't resist poking your scaly craw into everything I do.

See you at the primrig

Ingrid Ingersoll

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04-19-2005 11:04

From: Chris Wilde

Was someone benefiting financially from the crowds that hung out there via direct sells or advertising? I just dont see the point of the original complaint to the Lindens.

No one was benefiting financially from it. It used to be a nice spot to rez a vehicle or tinker with something from your inventory. But whatever you bring out of your inventory is now returned after 5 minutes as opposed to 1/2 hour.

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Chris Wilde

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04-19-2005 11:06

From: Ingrid Ingersoll

No one was benefiting financially from it. It used to be a nice spot to rez a vehicle or tinker with something from your inventory. But whatever you bring out of your inventory is now returned after 5 minutes as opposed to 1/2 hour.

Ahh thanks for clearing that up.

Prokofy Neva

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04-19-2005 11:34

From: someone

No one was benefiting financially from it. It used to be a nice spot to rez a vehicle or tinker with something from your inventory. But whatever you bring out of your inventory is now returned after 5 minutes as opposed to 1/2 hour.

Well, some super-feted types got to do some awesome kewl builds on it right next to the Lindens, suck up the glory and the limelight, maybe get a posrate or two, well..whatever.

But since the norm on Linden land is a ruthless, merciless autoreturn that brooks no discussion, it seems like all they did here was pamper Maxx for awhile but then even their patience gave out.

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Juro Kothari

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04-19-2005 11:47

From: Prokofy Neva

No. I concede Maxx's right to go on making demands of the Lindens for preserving his precocious preciosity.

But I just want equal time and equal rights, is all.

I think you're WAAAAAAAY over your allotted airtime, Prokofy. I'll be placing a call on the FIC hotline phone to rectify this immediately.

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Maxx Monde

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04-19-2005 11:49

From: Prokofy Neva

Well, some super-feted types got to do some awesome kewl builds on it right next to the Lindens, suck up the glory and the limelight, maybe get a posrate or two, well..whatever.

Good try, you almost got the mixture of bile and accusatory tone *just* right - but you blew it again like some comical supervillan who laughs a little too long, or ends up telling the superhero his precise plan for blowing up the world.

Awesome cool builds? Well, the cargo crate was cool, yes, but weighed in at about 4 prims or so, if I recall. I also didn't build it, it was nicely textured and placed by Splat1. I had a primshack I manuevered into place when I felt like it, but that too was a limited number of objects, and wasn't really 'super cool', just did it so I could say I had tried.

You know, being creative and all you tend to just 'do' things without some overarching reason. Of course, you'd know this if you even were...of which I'm increasingly in doubt of.

From: someone

But since the norm on Linden land is a ruthless, merciless autoreturn that brooks no discussion, it seems like all they did here was pamper Maxx for awhile but then even their patience gave out.

The norm is to return objects to keep things humming along, and it reduces administrative burden, usually. They adjusted the return - which they can totally do without warning, I admit - its their sim after all - so I just thought I'd try to get some wiggle room.

The only one frothing at the mouth and falling over backwards here is you.

I'm cool.

splat1 Edison

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04-19-2005 13:10

pfft why you have to tell them who did it

People who had an intrest know who placed it there and how it got there

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Pol Tabla

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04-19-2005 13:10

Prokofy, your nattering on about very minor issues (such as the one addressed in this thread) dilutes the impact of your posts about more important issues. Throttle back, dude.

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Prokofy Neva

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04-19-2005 13:36

Geez, I've been brief in this thread, people. Count your blessings!

I know it was splat, that was a matter of public record already, duh.

I was just speaking in a general way about the feted putting their stuff on public land and having it stick, is all. I mean, the unfeted and the semifeted would like some Linden stick-time, too! I'd like it just for half a second while I try to maneuver a house in over tricky water! Sheesh.

You know, several times when I flew past the oil rig and saw you there, Vexx, I tried to be nice and strike up a convo but you ignored me (maybe I'm still on mute or something).

I'm sorry I didn't get that tone of vile bile *just right* but here's a freebie forum siggie for you, Vexx:

"I'm creative and all, too, !#@$#@$!@#"

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splat1 Edison

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04-19-2005 13:44

Heh Id like to point out I had NO linden help at all, they even went as far as to cause hassle to stop me placing it there, (dropping that autoreturn from 30mins to 10 to 5 just to name one thing they did)

Heh I dont have you on mute (I think) if I was standing still I was nodoubt afk, if not then im sorry If I have upset you

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Prokofy Neva

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04-19-2005 14:10

From: someone

Heh Id like to point out I had NO linden help at all, they even went as far as to cause hassle to stop me placing it there, (dropping that autoreturn from 30mins to 10 to 5 just to name one thing they did)

Heh I dont have you on mute (I think) if I was standing still I was nodoubt afk, if not then im sorry If I have upset you
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Maxx Monde

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04-19-2005 14:15

From: Prokofy Neva

I'm talking about Maxx.

No, I won't date you.

And your 'flyby to say hi' actually was more 'fuh-fuh-fuh' and I just flew away not saying anything. Get the point, I don't desire contact with you

This episode is over, flit over to another thread and darken it with your monolith-like ego.

splat1 Edison

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04-19-2005 14:29

Maxx will you inflate my ego by talking to me ?

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Enabran Templar

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04-21-2005 10:51

From: Maxx Monde

This episode is over, flit over to another thread and darken it with your monolith-like ego.

That was an unexpectedly vivid image. Nice.

Prokofy Neva

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Join date: 28 Sep 2004

Posts: 3,698

04-21-2005 11:03

From: someone

No, I won't date you.

And your 'flyby to say hi' actually was more 'fuh-fuh-fuh' and I just flew away not saying anything. Get the point, I don't desire contact with you

This episode is over, flit over to another thread and darken it with your monolith-like ego.

Ugh. Like I was trying to date you? Are you nuts?

If you don't desire contact with me, why are you answering my every post with energetic insults like you care?

Um...do I build actual monoliths in this game? No, you do.

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Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	04-19-2005 09:05 From: someone Increase ANWR Autoreturn Time, Please. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Due to the actions of certain people blocking the primrig well, (and others I guess, but I know of this incident particularly) the autoreturn for ANWR was first enabled. This was set at 30 minutes, which seemed reasonable enough, if someone left something around it would get cleaned up eventually. It also fostered a growing number of people that liked to stop their vehicles on the rig, tweak them a bit, and then move on, perhaps even rezzing new parts and incorporating them into their vehicles. This emergent behavior was quite cool, and I enjoyed that a lot. Then the red cargo crate appeared on the rig, which I fully supported and thought was a pretty cool idea, the prim usage was minimal and could be easily covered by the sim. You could even make the arguement that since the person involved had enough land elsewhere with prim allocation he wasn't using, that he did cover the 'cost' to Linden Lab, albeit in a different sim than what the container was rezzed in. Then, for some reason, the autoreturn was reduced severely to 5 minutes. The primrig is dry, no prims flow out of it for some reason (unrelated to the return, just thought I'd mention it.) and now hardly anyone stops by anymore, and not because of the new telehub either. I know you don't have to do what I ask, but I was hoping you would anyway, since LL has been proven to be cool about things like this, and not just adhere to some 'letter of the law' policy. Please consider increasing the autoreturn back to what it had been, at 30 minutes. Thanks for reading, admins. Lindens, I have land where I'm not using prims, too, and I wonder, could I add my House Parts sale on to your air crash build and have it STAY. Geez. I even help make it look more crashy! Come on, I know you are cool about things like this! _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	04-19-2005 09:15 damn it! I feel cheated I read the title and was hoping it was an interesting discussion on microfiche accession numbers. No. I know no one else is gunna get that, either.
Ingrid Ingersoll Archived Join date: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,601	04-19-2005 10:53 From: Prokofy Neva Lindens, I have land where I'm not using prims, too, and I wonder, could I add my House Parts sale on to your air crash build and have it STAY. Geez. I even help make it look more crashy! Come on, I know you are cool about things like this! NEWSFLASH: Only Prokofy may make suggestions to the Lindens. Anyone elses concerns are moot. _____________________ http://www.ingrid.0catch.com/1.html
Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	04-19-2005 10:55 From: someone NEWSFLASH: Only Prokofy may make suggestions to the Lindens. Anyone elses concerns are moot. __________________ No. I concede Maxx's right to go on making demands of the Lindens for preserving his precocious preciosity. But I just want equal time and equal rights, is all. _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
Chris Wilde Custom User Title Join date: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 768	04-19-2005 11:01 So whats the story here? This guy posted because no one was hanging out somewhere? Was someone benefiting financially from the crowds that hung out there via direct sells or advertising? I just dont see the point of the original complaint to the Lindens. If people dont hang there then they are somewhere else. Go find them where-ever or give them a reason to hang out on the rig or any location.
Maxx Monde Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,848	04-19-2005 11:03 Prok, it was a suggestion, and noted accordingly. I won't be posting whinescraper screeds if they don't do it, I'll just ask 'pretty please' and see if they will or not. If not, I'll build as always, with nary a tear shed. You really should concern yourself with other things, though I'm so flattered you can't resist poking your scaly craw into everything I do. See you at the primrig
Ingrid Ingersoll Archived Join date: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,601	04-19-2005 11:04 From: Chris Wilde Was someone benefiting financially from the crowds that hung out there via direct sells or advertising? I just dont see the point of the original complaint to the Lindens. No one was benefiting financially from it. It used to be a nice spot to rez a vehicle or tinker with something from your inventory. But whatever you bring out of your inventory is now returned after 5 minutes as opposed to 1/2 hour. _____________________ http://www.ingrid.0catch.com/1.html
Chris Wilde Custom User Title Join date: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 768	04-19-2005 11:06 From: Ingrid Ingersoll No one was benefiting financially from it. It used to be a nice spot to rez a vehicle or tinker with something from your inventory. But whatever you bring out of your inventory is now returned after 5 minutes as opposed to 1/2 hour. Ahh thanks for clearing that up.
Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	04-19-2005 11:34 From: someone No one was benefiting financially from it. It used to be a nice spot to rez a vehicle or tinker with something from your inventory. But whatever you bring out of your inventory is now returned after 5 minutes as opposed to 1/2 hour. Well, some super-feted types got to do some awesome kewl builds on it right next to the Lindens, suck up the glory and the limelight, maybe get a posrate or two, well..whatever. But since the norm on Linden land is a ruthless, merciless autoreturn that brooks no discussion, it seems like all they did here was pamper Maxx for awhile but then even their patience gave out. _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
Juro Kothari Like a dog on a bone Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,418	04-19-2005 11:47 From: Prokofy Neva No. I concede Maxx's right to go on making demands of the Lindens for preserving his precocious preciosity. But I just want equal time and equal rights, is all. I think you're WAAAAAAAY over your allotted airtime, Prokofy. I'll be placing a call on the FIC hotline phone to rectify this immediately. _____________________
Maxx Monde Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,848	04-19-2005 11:49 From: Prokofy Neva Well, some super-feted types got to do some awesome kewl builds on it right next to the Lindens, suck up the glory and the limelight, maybe get a posrate or two, well..whatever. Good try, you almost got the mixture of bile and accusatory tone just right - but you blew it again like some comical supervillan who laughs a little too long, or ends up telling the superhero his precise plan for blowing up the world. Awesome cool builds? Well, the cargo crate was cool, yes, but weighed in at about 4 prims or so, if I recall. I also didn't build it, it was nicely textured and placed by Splat1. I had a primshack I manuevered into place when I felt like it, but that too was a limited number of objects, and wasn't really 'super cool', just did it so I could say I had tried. You know, being creative and all you tend to just 'do' things without some overarching reason. Of course, you'd know this if you even were...of which I'm increasingly in doubt of. From: someone But since the norm on Linden land is a ruthless, merciless autoreturn that brooks no discussion, it seems like all they did here was pamper Maxx for awhile but then even their patience gave out. The norm is to return objects to keep things humming along, and it reduces administrative burden, usually. They adjusted the return - which they can totally do without warning, I admit - its their sim after all - so I just thought I'd try to get some wiggle room. The only one frothing at the mouth and falling over backwards here is you. I'm cool.
splat1 Edison Registerd Nut Join date: 6 Sep 2004 Posts: 353	04-19-2005 13:10 pfft why you have to tell them who did it People who had an intrest know who placed it there and how it got there _____________________ Splat Soft - We exsist in the RL to! Gigas Bunny (Mule) #### You see, our experts describe you as an appallingly dull fellow, unimaginative, timid, lacking in initiative, spineless, easily dominated, no sense of humour, tedious company and irrepressibly drab and awful. And whereas in most professions these would be considerable drawbacks, in chartered accountancy they are a positive boon.
Pol Tabla synthpop saint Join date: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,041	04-19-2005 13:10 Prokofy, your nattering on about very minor issues (such as the one addressed in this thread) dilutes the impact of your posts about more important issues. Throttle back, dude. _____________________
Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	04-19-2005 13:36 Geez, I've been brief in this thread, people. Count your blessings! I know it was splat, that was a matter of public record already, duh. I was just speaking in a general way about the feted putting their stuff on public land and having it stick, is all. I mean, the unfeted and the semifeted would like some Linden stick-time, too! I'd like it just for half a second while I try to maneuver a house in over tricky water! Sheesh. You know, several times when I flew past the oil rig and saw you there, Vexx, I tried to be nice and strike up a convo but you ignored me (maybe I'm still on mute or something). I'm sorry I didn't get that tone of vile bile just right but here's a freebie forum siggie for you, Vexx: "I'm creative and all, too, !#@$#@$!@#" _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
splat1 Edison Registerd Nut Join date: 6 Sep 2004 Posts: 353	04-19-2005 13:44 Heh Id like to point out I had NO linden help at all, they even went as far as to cause hassle to stop me placing it there, (dropping that autoreturn from 30mins to 10 to 5 just to name one thing they did) Heh I dont have you on mute (I think) if I was standing still I was nodoubt afk, if not then im sorry If I have upset you _____________________ Splat Soft - We exsist in the RL to! Gigas Bunny (Mule) #### You see, our experts describe you as an appallingly dull fellow, unimaginative, timid, lacking in initiative, spineless, easily dominated, no sense of humour, tedious company and irrepressibly drab and awful. And whereas in most professions these would be considerable drawbacks, in chartered accountancy they are a positive boon.
Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	04-19-2005 14:10 From: someone Heh Id like to point out I had NO linden help at all, they even went as far as to cause hassle to stop me placing it there, (dropping that autoreturn from 30mins to 10 to 5 just to name one thing they did) Heh I dont have you on mute (I think) if I was standing still I was nodoubt afk, if not then im sorry If I have upset you __________________ I'm talking about Maxx. _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
Maxx Monde Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,848	04-19-2005 14:15 From: Prokofy Neva I'm talking about Maxx. No, I won't date you. And your 'flyby to say hi' actually was more 'fuh-fuh-fuh' and I just flew away not saying anything. Get the point, I don't desire contact with you This episode is over, flit over to another thread and darken it with your monolith-like ego.
splat1 Edison Registerd Nut Join date: 6 Sep 2004 Posts: 353	04-19-2005 14:29 Maxx will you inflate my ego by talking to me ? _____________________ Splat Soft - We exsist in the RL to! Gigas Bunny (Mule) #### You see, our experts describe you as an appallingly dull fellow, unimaginative, timid, lacking in initiative, spineless, easily dominated, no sense of humour, tedious company and irrepressibly drab and awful. And whereas in most professions these would be considerable drawbacks, in chartered accountancy they are a positive boon.
Enabran Templar Capitalist Pig Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,506	04-21-2005 10:51 From: Maxx Monde This episode is over, flit over to another thread and darken it with your monolith-like ego. That was an unexpectedly vivid image. Nice.
Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	04-21-2005 11:03 From: someone No, I won't date you. And your 'flyby to say hi' actually was more 'fuh-fuh-fuh' and I just flew away not saying anything. Get the point, I don't desire contact with you This episode is over, flit over to another thread and darken it with your monolith-like ego. Ugh. Like I was trying to date you? Are you nuts? If you don't desire contact with me, why are you answering my every post with energetic insults like you care? Um...do I build actual monoliths in this game? No, you do. _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.