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blaze Spinnaker
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01-25-2005 21:30
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Lance LeFay
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01-25-2005 21:30
Why are you cross posting?
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Derek Jones
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01-25-2005 21:31
Glad I bought my land when I did!
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Prokofy Neva
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01-25-2005 21:34
It's the value of the following:
--The work of at least 4 or more top SL architects who have proven, beautiful builds in-world --Having them as your neighbours and possibly builders of your home --Securing your view on all sides of your property and within draw-distance range --Having the prospect of secured views across the sim --Being in a community of like-minded individuals --Knowing those architects plan to stay there for awhile Well, it's just priceless.... _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
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01-25-2005 21:38
Yes, I agree. Having a zoned, group approach to building in a SIM has a lot of potential.
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Ardith Mifflin
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01-25-2005 21:48
It's the value of the following: --The work of at least 4 or more top SL architects who have proven, beautiful builds in-world --Having them as your neighbours and possibly builders of your home --Securing your view on all sides of your property and within draw-distance range --Having the prospect of secured views across the sim --Being in a community of like-minded individuals --Knowing those architects plan to stay there for awhile Well, it's just priceless.... So... how secure could the view possibly be? If the view were secure, the land would not have gone to public auction. What if W-Hat (for the sake of example) had won the auction, and decided to produce the Moran Club - Boardman Adjunct? |
blaze Spinnaker
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01-25-2005 21:53
I guess it depends on what you set your cut-distance too.
I think Stillman borders on Boardman, though? It's zoned as well.. No, I take that back. Still, Boardman is zoned and you can't build silly there. _____________________
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Jauani Wu
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01-25-2005 21:54
the land is pg and has a linden enforced neighbourhood guideline.
the land is residential, there is a building height limit, and no commercial signage is allowed. outside of the market. i don't know where to find these guidelines, but i've been in violation of them in the past and had my builds returned to me by Lindens. _____________________
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Haney Linden
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01-25-2005 22:05
The guidelines are here.
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Ardith Mifflin
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01-25-2005 22:06
the land is pg and has a linden enforced neighbourhood guideline. the land is residential, there is a building height limit, and no commercial signage is allowed. outside of the market. i don't know where to find these guidelines, but i've been in violation of them in the past and had my builds returned to me by Lindens. I thought I had read that the Lindens had stopped enforcing the zoning, but I was evidently mistaken about that. Thank goodness that the Adjunct won't be built any time soon. However, the quality of the view is still not protected by the building restrictions in place at Boardman. In my quick tour, I noticed a ton of very nice houses, but quite a few very crude designs. Unlike certain persons, I'm not going to start ranting about these builds. They exist because their creators either have differring aesthetic tastes or because their creators lack the talent to fully realize their own visions. My point is merely that a zoned neighborhood alone does not guarantee that your view will always be agreeable. It merely guards against some of the more extreme examples of aggressive building. |
blaze Spinnaker
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01-25-2005 22:07
Hopefully after that investment, something will be done about the Market area in the middle.. it really doesn't do the place justice.
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Prokofy Neva
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01-25-2005 22:10
So... how secure could the view possibly be? If the view were secure, the land would not have gone to public auction. What if W-Hat (for the sake of example) had won the auction, and decided to produce the Moran Club - Boardman Adjunct? Well, it's only secure if you win of course. The lot had nearby parcels with architects like Barnesworth Anubis, Ingrid Ingersoll, and Marcos Fonzarelli and also designers like Toast Bard. They all build or make beautiful things and create an aesthetic atmosphere. If W-Hat moved in there to grief everybody -- although they would be unlikely to notice or bother with a little-valued small parcel like that -- I would hope everybody there would fight back and get the Lindens involved. I really don't think individuals like that should have the power to put everyone over a barrel and behave like trolls. There is a concept of "enjoyment of the game" and "disturbance of the peace" and the Lindens seem to be reaching the point on acting on these issues faster than they used to. Perhaps the prospect of losing high-paying customers willing to pay top dollar to buy at auction and keep a sim nice is finally sinking into their heads. _____________________
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Hiro Pendragon
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01-25-2005 23:10
Wow, makes me wish I held onto my boardman land when it was the most worthless land in the grid!
Also, I don't watch auctions much... when did they start posting the bidders? I think that's great, after so many players got together and asked for it. Thank you Linden Lab for implementing another user suggestion! _____________________
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Jauani Wu
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01-25-2005 23:32
Also, I don't watch auctions much... when did they start posting the bidders? I think that's great, after so many players got together and asked for it. Thank you Linden Lab for implementing another user suggestion! bidders have always been public after the auction closes. _____________________
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Hiro Pendragon
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01-25-2005 23:35
bidders have always been public after the auction closes. Huh. I must have missed something. /shrug _____________________
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Maxx Monde
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01-26-2005 03:20
Apparently I've made an 'enemy' by winning that auction.
Eh, whatever. I posted my reasons, believe them or not, that is upon you to decide. I've got my land, and that is what counts. I happen to like Boardman, and the people there, so it was totally worth it to me. |
Khamon Fate
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01-26-2005 05:54
Apparently I've made an 'enemy' by winning that auction. Eh, whatever. I posted my reasons, believe them or not, that is upon you to decide. I've got my land, and that is what counts. I happen to like Boardman, and the people there, so it was totally worth it to me. it was still a shock to our delicate systems maxx. imagine all the coffee and tea being gently wiped from keyboards and monitors last night and this morning. you should warn your loving fans of such things. leak stories to the tabloids like a good little star. ha ha ha you have fun up there. up? over, no it is up, and over a bit from zoe /wave _____________________
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Hank Ramos
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01-26-2005 06:06
Eh, whatever. I posted my reasons, believe them or not, that is upon you to decide. I've got my land, and that is what counts. Can I have some of that extra cash you got lying around? ![]() |
Prokofy Neva
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01-26-2005 06:25
Apparently I've made an 'enemy' by winning that auction. Apparently this is a reference to me? But you didn't make an enemy of me merely because you bid on an auction for land you wanted for "any reason or no reason", and because we just happened to bid on the same piece of land without knowing it. That would be silly. And I'm surprised you'd post that idea without any context. Obviously, if I had any clue at all you were bidding I would have immediately dropped out, because I wouldn't want to be the one to force you to pay $262 for 1248 acres in a dull, flat, brown sim that has potential, but still quite a few liabilities. However, you had said on numerous occasions that you would never buy land again and were tiered up, so I had no clue on earth that it would be you bidding live on that auction. What happened, as I told you, and made me think you were determined to create an enemy, is that another player told me he had inside information to the effect that you knew I was going to bid, and that you had made it known to others that you had vowed to keep me out of Boardman at any cost, merely because of what I posted on the forums. That seemed extreme, but for various reasons, I believed that person may actually have had such privileged information about you. It confounded me how they could obtain such knowledge without ESP, of course, but the circumstances made it plausible. Now I see that it was just said deliberately to vex me. I guess that person was determined to make me an enemy, not you. Whatever, I don't go out deliberately making enemies. It's a free country, people can bid as they like and live where they like, if they can manage to arrange the circumstances for doing so. You already live in Boardman and need the prims and I would have not been there much, but merely wanted to be supportive of the overall project of reclaiming and beautifying the sim. I'm sure the Lindens are laughing all the way to the bank, now that they have succeeded wittingly or unwittingly setting players against each other. Was it an accident that the parcel, which had been dormant, suddenly appeared on the auction just when blaze and Khamon began to chat it up as a great prospect? You're happy that the Lindens got your money? I think it's pernicious. However, other players have persuaded me that the misfortunes that occur when two people with the same goals bid against each other unknowingly are far outweighed by the massive potential for griefing and blackmail posed by aggressive persons bidding publicly on the auction and prepared to be ruthless against their competitors. _____________________
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Eggy Lippmann
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01-26-2005 06:41
blaze, we all know you have an agenda. Stop shoving it in our face already. Thank you.
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Maxx Monde
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01-26-2005 09:05
Apparently this is a reference to me? (rambling snipped) Yes, yes it was. Your prompt IM regaling me of the fact was quite succinct. Perhaps you could make your posts follow the same convention. I paid the price, I won. All I'm hearing from you is DEJA WHINE. I guess what we're learning here is if I'm determined, I'll win in an auction. Spare us the billboard postings and rambling about who said what, and how your sources and tinhat receivers are feeding you the TERRIBLE SECRETS OF TEH INTARNETS. Have a great day and don't IM me again, KTHX. |
Prokofy Neva
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01-26-2005 09:26
DEJA WHINE Hardly. I certainly don't mind one bit not paying $262 for land, when in SL that could buy a huge amount of square meters, even a small island. It's also a handy amount to buy groceries and sneakers for my kids, too : ) (Did you know that even size 2 Converse Allstars are up to $49 now???) My sources were ostensibly impeccable regarding this matter and not based on any tinhat receivers, but of course those sources may chose to lie, in which case I have the notecards. Ah, well, c'est la vie. My own take is that one or both of you are not telling the complete story, but then, one never gets the complete story on the Internet. If you chose to make a claim about me publicly, to the effect that I was "making you an enemy," then I chose to answer it publicly, and it is not rambling, but the facts. There was a context explained to you which ought to be satisfactory -- unless of course that source was correct... I guess what we're learning here is if I'm determined, I'll win in an auction. And we're learning here that if I'm determined, I'll lose an auction, rather than pay an exhorbitant price to live next door even to Barnesworth Anubis, the adorable Bright Center of the Universe. And have no fear, not only will I not IM you, I won't negrate you, because your building remains superior, your behavior even on forums is more or less civil, and your appearance, ah, well, look who's talking...I never negrate on appearance : ) _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
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11-07-2005 19:43
The old record
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