LOTS of public land on the map today?

Anyone else notice this? I like to poke around at the maps now and then... and today it looked like there was more public land than any other day in SL. Of course, the same two or three "land holding" groups acquired this land nice and early, but still... there are some interesting implications involved in that amount of land being public. Go ahead and look for yourself!

I saw this too, and admit I was guilty of going and seeing what went wrong.

Looks like I am too slow though

That makes me angry. There were several plots in a sim I live in that I was waiting to go on the "auction block" ever since in reverted to being Linden-owned. Now it's been released to the public and its price jacked up 500% what its worth.

Land wasn't supposed to go public any more, dammit!

What happens when Linden make some land PUBLIC?
Is it open to be bought by anyone and for how much per m2?

cheers

It goes for sale for L$1 per meter.

i was wondering about this too. perhaps they need for us to start bug reporting parcels that are too large to be public but have done. there must be a pattern that they can eventually figure out.

when i find public land, i im the residents in the sim to see if they want to buy it before i just arbitrarily set it for sale. but i'm not working my butt off trying to break even in the virtual real estate business so i have time to do that.

Land that goes public by intentional release by the owner: PUBLIC LAND
Land that goes public by unintentional/accidental release by the owner: PUBLIC LAND
Land that would go public due to nonpayment to LL or cancellation of account: LINDEN AUCTION

Reasons for someone to intentionally release land to public?
1. Need to tier down really, really fast
2. Wants to jump on a land deal fast, but doesn't want to tier up to hold both pieces while the old one sells
3. Generosity, Chaos, whatever.

am I be totally wrong abou this...
but what about settings limits about being able to buy public land at L$1 per m2 just as you can only buy First Land at L$1 m2 once... and only 512m2...

I don't see why First Lnad should be limited to 512 if public land at L$1 m2 can be bought by anyone and as much as we want...

maybe a user o goupr can only buy so much public land per month or similar rules...

then again I'm new here.. so what I'm saying may not fit at all with the current socio-economical system of SL

A short comment to the public land, since it seems most people are clueless as usually when it comes to land questions.

Land goes public in bigger parts than 512 sq.m if the owner choose so.
For some reason it seems Kurohyo Song now and then realise big chunks of land. I bet she only knows why, but it is her right to do so with her land.

I was checking out many of the lots that had been public, quite many of them , mature prime land, was set for sale for 4 to 5 L/sqm, whic is probably less what it could cost in auctions.

And to Aaron, if you want public land, you have to look for it, dont sit on your ass, fly fly fly some 10h/ day and you will also find it. I can only blame myself for not getting the public land next to my lot in Honister, my fault I did not pay attension.

Wha.. what's this? SL returning to what it used to be?... Has SL's Land finally become a bloated market?

Yeah I guess you are right...
I checked out those Public lots, they still show as public lots even if they have been bought.. and all have been taken by groups . I have seen some of those lots on sale for L$10 / m2

Yes surely our fault for no payig attention... mind you... before this post I didn't know anything about Public land

The whole concept of public land and releasing land should be removed from SL.
Rename the release land button to "give to governor" or something.

Eggy must really be pro Landlords .
If all would go back to Linden, and there was no option to realease. It would mean that the land ends up in auction. That land is known to be bought by so called land lords.

This would mean that no others would not even get a chance.
Public land is there for anyone to buy. What that person do with it is his/her own business.
I saw many for sale cheap, too cheap. It meant resellers bought them.

Public land is a good feature. It gives a chance for anyone to find cheap land.

Land... Even in a second life it is the only thing which really holds value

Land amazes me. It is so powerful and so valuable. I'm a new graduate, saving up all this year for a deposit on a mortgage, hopefully next year. Then I'll have some sweet land of my own

Yes I agree with that... also gives people that are no able to pay L$4 to L$10 per m2 the chance to buy big plots and add their own content and creativity into the mix... I woudl think many creative people that just join have hard time to find enough space "cheap" to create new content/games/etc..

people still come in my office and say "i want to put up a website with a message board and a store and five-hundred pictures; it's for a good cause; i will do most of the design and programming if you'll help me some; now where do i get lots of free, or super cheap, space?"

i used to laugh hysterically. now at least i can point them to places they can get lots of super cheap web space. new people are going to have to bite the same bullet we all have until lltp is a standard protocol, the server software is licensed, and the client software is open sourced.

What i do not understand is; how are these people who cannot afford to buy a big lot going to afford paying a big monthly tier?

One should also remember that land has some value, and when you get tired of it you will get some/all of your money back. What you pay in tier fees are gone forever.

I think land released to the public should better revert to First Land or go to the auction block. Unless Linden Lab considers it too much hazzle to do this. In that case maybe the land scanner faction saves them time? No idea. I kinda doubt, but who knows.

I have found public land and I do not use a scanner.

I think a land owner should be able to decide what he or she does with the land, give it back to Linden, set it public, or sell it for 0 to whatever L dollar.

The amount of public land in general is so small that it do not affect the market. What happend a few days ago is very rare. I wonder what would happen if Anshe suddenly would decide to release all her land.
There would be a lot of land for 1L/sqm.
I am quite sure there would be lots of unclaimed land, since I have talked to some of the people whining about land prices and I have asked them. Would you tier up much is land was free/cheap? In about all cases the answer has been no.

So, seriously. I doubt if 2 or 3 guys fly around and pick up a few 16sqm or even a 512 sqm lot now and then and sell it with a small profit, really matter in the big picture.

I serously doubt that. If you did, it was sheer fluke that you were nearby before someone with a land scanner picked it up.



The problem is that many people accidentally release to public, and there's no longer any good reason to release to public. It's the same as just giving it to which ever land scanner is fastest.



I'm quite sure that *all* of the land would be snatched up within minutes of it going public. Scanners ensure that public land doesn't stay public, and it's impossible to compete with them. Given the opportunity to buy land at L$1/sq m and crank up the price 10x, nobody would pass up public land.



Historically, these guys do exactly that, and the profit is enormous. The release button should be re-named "Give to Land Scanner". There really is no benefit to releasing land to public, except to the vultures who scan for it.