Can I build anything on a new first land plot? including platforms high up?

Hi,

A newbie question I guess, but re building on a first land plot:

[1] Can I build anything? Eg high roller coasters, things like this

[2] Can I build things platforms high up? (e.g. a platform very high up which has buildings on it)

[3] Re building things high up above the plot, can you branch out horizontally wider than your plot? (I assume not)

Tks

On number one, yes, as long as you keep the content PG if it's a PG region. If it's mature, LL urges that you keep explicit content indoors.

On two, yes.

On three, no, it must be within the confines of your property.

Nolan, as to horizontal encroachment, you said "no" to the question "can you".
Of course, "can not do" and "ought not to do" are two different things.

Is it forbidden but possible to built a sky platform and extend it horizontally to encroach on the air rights of neighbors?

If yes, what happens if one finds a neighbor has built in a way to encroach onto your airspace? Is that an issue to work out through social engineering, or will the Lindens step in in practice to whack off the encroaching object?

Frank

If you own your land you can not only see your neighbours encroaching objects in the land tools and return them to him any time you want - you can actually set your land to automatically do it every few minutes.

If you are renting, you can speak to your landlord for assistance.

Sure, but for the purposes of my statement, "can I?" was interpreted and treated as "am I allowed to by rule?".

I am fairly sure he realizes he can in the literal sense, but I think he was asking about rules.

You can do it yes its easy and possible but most people will have auto return items on also its bad practice as many people will hate you and they got friends and more friends to hate you lol. Also its just wrong as theres limited prims so if you are on your next doors land in the air or on the ground your using there prims up.

In my experience of sky builds horizontal encroachment can be a bit of a grey area. For instance if I had sections of a linked build that had its' root prim over my own land things were generally tickety-boo as it was counted as primmage on my land and not neighbour XYZ's land. But if the root prim was too close to the boundary line things could go awry so you might want to keep the root prim at least 5 metres inside your boundary line. That said, I have never made use of this to annoy or disturb another player. In every case it was just a build that I could not fit over my land parcel no matter how how may times I repositioned it.

Ben, I didn't realize that if I own, and a neighbor's items encroach, I can force-return them, even automatically. That sort of self-help is useful.

I certainly agree that encroaching is wrong, and can make people hate you. I've noticed that some folks in SL really don't seem to care about being hated. For some (unfortunately) it even seems to be stimulating to them. So, deliberate encroachment is a sort of aggressiveness I"m glad can be addressed with self-help by the owner of the victimized land.

I'm reading Ellickson's "Order Without Law," which is a detailed analysis of how neighbors deal with issues of land use in a cattle area of Shasta County, CA. The encroachment of cattle onto other's lands sounds very much like this prim encroachment. As it turns out, in Shasta County, it was usually handled with self-help and peer pressure through "truthful gossip spreading."

Sounds like those responses are in force here. May be ingrained into human psyche or game theory.

I used my first land plot to build a house 600m up.

I also had a neighbor who encroached upon my land. It was obviously accidental and he moved his house when I asked.

Something you should be aware of Greg, is that you have an allowance for the number of building blocks (prims) you can use on your land, 117 I think for first land. Which isnt a hell of a lot for building a roller coaster for example.

If someone has placed objects that overhang into your airspace or land, yet you can't return it because the root is not on your land, report the object to the lindens with the built-in reporting system under help. They will remove it or make it fit it's own land boundries fast.

What Kevn says is correct, but ask the owner first, just to be polite.

There is also a limit to exactly how high you can build. Can't recall off hand what it is....780 or so? Can I get confirmation on that?

But at the same time, there's no reason to go overboard with this. If the overhang is out of sight and the root is not on your land, then there probably isn't any reason to get upset about it.

Use autoreturn. That will get rid of most common scenarios. Talk to your neighbors if it bothers you. And contact the Lindens if it's in your face.

768m with the normal building tools. Objects can exist unattached to 4096m, but you have to use physical scripting to get them above 768m.

Alaz, speaking as your ex neighbor, a neighbor that you *did* kind of encroach apon a bit, I would say this is not a grey area at all.

To the original poster, I would say that it's only okay if you ask the person whos land it is and have their permission to do it, otherwise its just plain rude.

A lot of people find that their neighbors dont have autoreturn set and are often not around so they "squat" in the air above the property, effectively increasing their own holdings at no cost.

The problem with that is that is that junk remains in the air for many many weeks afterwards, becasue the Lindens wont autoreturn on someone's property until they officially leave the game. This means the whole neighborhood has to live in a junkyard for months and months because one person wants to be selfish.

Not cool at all.

In my case it led to the breakup of long time friendships, a lot of griefing and stress and is generally regrettable later. You will miss the friendships you lose by doing this, I guarantee it.

It is too much to ask that the owner of the overhanging items ask the property owner if it's ok to do this rather than require all the "victims" to meekly inquire if a neighbor could please move their junk off of the land owner's property? If you don't ask before encroaching on someone, I don't think you should be surprised when they autoreturn the stuff to you.

Probably would be neighborly, but certainly the onus should not be on the person being infringed upon to not use the tools they have available.

LOL, I said "Use autoreturn" at the beginning of the second paragraph.

re: Diane Mechanique's post...

Wha-hey.. another enemy. You made my day... Please enjoy your bile. You only got jeaous cos I used some abandoned land and actually did you a favour by hiding eyesores left behind by players who had quit SL. So quit whining and grow up.

Center of the root prim can go up to 768 m. Which means that you could have the top of your build very close to 798 m, with judicious geometry and linking order.