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New Economic Stats Page

Robin Linden
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05-09-2006 11:04
For those of you who never have enough numbers, we have created a new page with statistics for population growth, land sales, and currency sales.

The data on this page should update daily, and raw data can also be downloaded to an excel file.
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Bloop Cork
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05-09-2006 11:29
Philip and all Lindens:

Thanks for the additional economic demographics! Here are a few comments:

1. All land in-world and on the SL website is listed in square meters. Yet, on the data provided, you have broken it down by acres. It would be helpful to use consistent systems of measurement. Either would suffice. (For those of you who don't know, 1 acre = 4,046.86 square meters).

2. I especially appreciate the total acres for sale datum. It would be nice to compare that to the total acres in SL on the given day. A total for all land for sale, for auction (active or in process), and all other owned land (by residents and LL) would be very useful. This way, a ratio of land for sale to total land could be calculated--in fact, you could provide that ratio as well.

This is the type of data I need (as I'm sure other residents do as well) to help determine the economic vitality of SL. Watching this data over the next several months will help my RW company decide how to proceed with potential SL business opportunities and projects.
Hiro Pendragon
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05-09-2006 11:31
Thanks for providing this valuable data.

Suggestion - can we have added the "last logged in" for last week, 30 days, and 90 days, in addition to the 60 days that are present?
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Francis Chung
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05-09-2006 11:33
Hey this is great :) More information is always welcome.

Do you think you can separate stats by maingrid and teengrid please? I would like to know how the two economies sharing the same currency (L$) are affecting each other.
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Ricky Zamboni
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05-09-2006 11:38
I'd like to see:

# of residents as a function of L$ balance (e.g. there are 5000 residents with balance L$1-L$100, 2000 residents with balance L$101-L$500, etc.)

# of distinct accounts logged in as a function of window (e.g. 8000 distinct accounts logged in during the last 7 days, X in the last 14 days, Y in the last 30 days, Z in the last 60 days)

users online as a function of time, with granularity of <=1h, perhaps median filtered over the past week
ReserveBank Division
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Join date: 16 Jan 2006
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05-09-2006 11:52
L$650/Million Linden Dollars in Circulation..

Enjoy the Inflation my fellow SLers... Pretty soon
Linden Dollars will be cheaper than toilet paper..
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Carl Metropolitan
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05-09-2006 12:11
From: Bloop Cork
1. All land in-world and on the SL website is listed in square meters. Yet, on the data provided, you have broken it down by acres. It would be helpful to use consistent systems of measurement. Either would suffice. (For those of you who don't know, 1 acre = 4,046.86 square meters).


I posted this on a seperate thread, but it seems relevant here, as well:

LL has released their first set of economic statistics for SL. Bizarely, these stats list land areas in acres--which are meaningful to farmers in the US and some parts of the UK. For those of us who are not farmers, I've converted the acre measurments into square meters:

Total Acres for Sale: 2,707 acres = 10,954,840 m2

Acres Auctioned (April'06): 597 acres = 2,415,973 m2
Acres Auctioned (May'06 to date): 134 acres = 542,279 m2

Total Acres Sold by Residents (April'06): 4,249 acres = 17,195,093 m2
Total Acres Sold by Residents (May'06 to date): 1,338 acres = 5,414,694 m2

Enjoy.
Carl Metropolitan
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05-09-2006 12:24
From: ReserveBank Division
L$650/Million Linden Dollars in Circulation..

Enjoy the Inflation my fellow SLers... Pretty soon
Linden Dollars will be cheaper than toilet paper..


This is wonderful news! Taking the 106,419 unique log-ins over the past sixty days--and assuming that 1/3 were new users who logged in once and never again--gives us a 70,946 user base. This likely understates the true user base, considering all the publicity over the last month.

That works out to a per capita money supply of 9166L$.

Compare that with a per capita money supply numbers based on the "Unique Log-Ins Last 30 Days" numbers published last month. (I know that's a bit apples and oranges--that's why I lopped 1/3 off the top at the start.)

Oct. '05 9328
Nov. '05 9713
Dec. '05 9653
Jan. '06 8744
Feb. '06 9218
Mar '06 9426

Per capita money supply is pretty much stable over the last few months--even declining a bit lately. It looks like inflation is under control.
ReserveBank Division
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05-09-2006 12:28
From: Carl Metropolitan
I posted this on a seperate thread, but it seems relevant here, as well:

LL has released their first set of economic statistics for SL. Bizarely, these stats list land areas in acres--which are meaningful to farmers in the US and some parts of the UK. For those of us who are not farmers, I've converted the acre measurments into square meters:

Total Acres for Sale: 2,707 acres = 10,954,840 m2

Acres Auctioned (April'06): 597 acres = 2,415,973 m2
Acres Auctioned (May'06 to date): 134 acres = 542,279 m2

Total Acres Sold by Residents (April'06): 4,249 acres = 17,195,093 m2
Total Acres Sold by Residents (May'06 to date): 1,338 acres = 5,414,694 m2

Enjoy.



Good work Carl... Your conversions are a God Sent...
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05-09-2006 12:41
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ReserveBank Division
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05-09-2006 12:45
From: Carl Metropolitan
This is wonderful news! Taking the 106,419 unique log-ins over the past sixty days--and assuming that 1/3 were new users who logged in once and never again--gives us a 70,946 user base. This likely understates the true user base, considering all the publicity over the last month.

That works out to a per capita money supply of 9166L$.

Compare that with a per capita money supply numbers based on the "Unique Log-Ins Last 30 Days" numbers published last month. (I know that's a bit apples and oranges--that's why I lopped 1/3 off the top at the start.)

Oct. '05 9328
Nov. '05 9713
Dec. '05 9653
Jan. '06 8744
Feb. '06 9218
Mar '06 9426

Per capita money supply is pretty much stable over the last few months--even declining a bit lately. It looks like inflation is under control.





I like your numbers, but I seriously doubt that any of the "new"
basic account users have anywhere close to L$9,426 Linden Dollars
in their account. I think the "average" is true if all things could be
considered equal. But with a large number of basic users who join,
check out the game, and never return skew the average.

It would be better if we could get an average that is
ranked according to raw user account data. Something like
20,000 users have between L$0 - L$1000. 50,000 users have
between L$1000-L$5000, and so on...
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Ricky Zamboni
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05-09-2006 12:49
From: ReserveBank Division
I like your numbers, but I seriously doubt that any of the "new"
basic account users have anywhere close to L$9,426 Linden Dollars
in their account. I think the "average" is true if all things could be
considered equal. But with a large number of basic users who join,
check out the game, and never return skew the average.

It would be better if we could get an average that is
ranked according to raw user account data. Something like
20,000 users have between L$0 - L$1000. 50,000 users have
between L$1000-L$5000, and so on...

I would like to see a binned distribution of L$ holdings added to the stats page. That's a simple database query that would provide a useful metric of the actual health of the economy. Sure, average is fine, but I bet there are a couple of accounts seriously skewing that value upwards.
Morgaine Christensen
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Question--Logged In Users
05-09-2006 12:54
I was wondering if someone can provide answers to the following questoins.

1) Define "Residents Logged-In"? Does this mean a comprehensive total of all log-ins (i.e. john doe logged in 30 times during that 60 days so all 30 log-ins are part of calculating total "Residents Logged-In) or does this mean 106,419 separate resident accounts logged in during the last 60 days?

If this figure is truly 106,419 separate residents logging into 106,419 separate accounts is it possible to determine a comprehensive total number of times these 106,419 accounts actually logged to the system?

2) Does the "Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 106,419" reflect combined log-ins with the Teen Grid? If yes, can these two figures be separated between main and teen grid.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Bloop Cork
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05-09-2006 13:36
From: Morgaine Christensen
I was wondering if someone can provide answers to the following questoins.

1) Define "Residents Logged-In"? Does this mean a comprehensive total of all log-ins (i.e. john doe logged in 30 times during that 60 days so all 30 log-ins are part of calculating total "Residents Logged-In) or does this mean 106,419 separate resident accounts logged in during the last 60 days?

If this figure is truly 106,419 separate residents logging into 106,419 separate accounts is it possible to determine a comprehensive total number of times these 106,419 accounts actually logged to the system?

2) Does the "Residents Logged-In During Last 60 Days 106,419" reflect combined log-ins with the Teen Grid? If yes, can these two figures be separated between main and teen grid.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.


Following that line of questioning, does 106,419 resident's logged in include alt accounts for the same RL person?

Does the total number of residents LL reports for SL include alt accounts or is it based solely on unique, RL people?

I think the last question may have been asked and answered before.
Carl Metropolitan
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05-09-2006 16:33
From: ReserveBank Division
I like your numbers, but I seriously doubt that any of the "new" basic account users have anywhere close to L$9,426 Linden Dollars in their account. I think the "average" is true if all things could be considered equal.


I did not say that they did. I'm pointing out that total number of L$ in circulation is not the only measure of the L$'s condition that matters. L$ per captia seems stable or headed down. The money supply needs to increase as the (real) population increases.

From: ReserveBank Division
But with a large number of basic users who join, check out the game, and never return skew the average.


That's why I lopped 1/3 off that 106,419 unique log-ins before making my per capita calculation--to account for one time players.

From: ReserveBank Division
It would be better if we could get an average that is ranked according to raw user account data. Something like 20,000 users have between L$0 - L$1000. 50,000 users have between L$1000-L$5000, and so on...


That would be very interesting--though I am not sure it would tell us much about the L$ market. It could impact the demand side.
Geuis Dassin
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Join date: 3 May 2006
Posts: 565
05-09-2006 17:39
Instead of having to do vague calculations of 1/3 for total logins and such, how about a breakdown of accounts receiving a stipend?

To my understanding, you only get stipend for weeks where you are logged in for a significant amount of time. If this is wrong, then can I just log in 1 time per week to get my stipend of L$500?

People that don't get stipend more than likely don't have a huge economic impact, right? And if they do, then lets get a figure of how many regular playing, non tier-paying(thus limited/no stipden) accounts there are.

Geuis
Eloise Pasteur
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Posts: 1,952
05-09-2006 23:42
From: Geuis Dassin
Instead of having to do vague calculations of 1/3 for total logins and such, how about a breakdown of accounts receiving a stipend?

To my understanding, you only get stipend for weeks where you are logged in for a significant amount of time. If this is wrong, then can I just log in 1 time per week to get my stipend of L$500?


Wrong I'm afraid. You get your $500 regardless of if you log in or not as a premium member. You must log in once per week (for any length of time) to get your $50 a week as a basic member.
Introvert Petunia
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05-10-2006 02:42
From: someone
Enjoy the Inflation my fellow SLers... Pretty soon
Linden Dollars will be cheaper than toilet paper..
My back-of-the-envelope calculation shows they already are:
linden dollar: L$1128 for 400 pennies = L$2.82 / penny
toilet paper: 800 sheets for 449 pennies = 1.78 sheets / penny
I think you'll need a more colorful metaphor. :p
Ricky Zamboni
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05-24-2006 12:30
There were several good suggestions in this thread. LL, has there been any movement on implementing any of them for addition to the economic stats page?