Suggestion for the "next" land release
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Loki Pico
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01-26-2004 18:50
I assume that the "pending sale" land release may become a routine event. I doubt it will be as dramatic as this release because I guess most of the land around now will be confirmed after purchase. But, it seems that some sort of mechanism for releasing inactive land may be in order. Maybe an annual event?
I am just sort of brainstorming, this may never come to pass again. But, here is my idea should the event ever reoccur. I think it would be helpful to show "pending sale" land in blue on the "land owners" view. The objects should go back to the owners inventory about a week before the actual land gets released. That way we could see all the bare blue land due to go public in advance.
I am sure it has been a trying day for many Linden Labs employees and residents alike. Live and learn, its all good.
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si Money
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Re: Suggestion for the "next" land release
01-26-2004 19:16
From: someone Originally posted by Loki Pico I assume that the "pending sale" land release may become a routine event. I doubt it will be as dramatic as this release because I guess most of the land around now will be confirmed after purchase. But, it seems that some sort of mechanism for releasing inactive land may be in order. Maybe an annual event?
I am just sort of brainstorming, this may never come to pass again. But, here is my idea should the event ever reoccur. I think it would be helpful to show "pending sale" land in blue on the "land owners" view. The objects should go back to the owners inventory about a week before the actual land gets released. That way we could see all the bare blue land due to go public in advance.
I am sure it has been a trying day for many Linden Labs employees and residents alike. Live and learn, its all good. The event should never occur again, actually. The pending land will release itself automatically after one day I believe, for each parcel, but the only 'mass' happening of this should be this one.
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Teeny Leviathan
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01-26-2004 20:10
I agree that mass land releases should never happen again. Instead, there should be some sort of proceedure for applying for abandoned account plots.
We would submit an application, and the Lindens would see if the landowner has an active account. This would be followed by an email to the account owner. If the account is confirmed dead, the applicant would get an email. Then, the applicant would have 48 hours to claim the plot. After 48 hours, it goes public.
A system like this would keep land and abandoned builds from sitting idle for months.
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Oz Spade
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01-26-2004 20:37
I like that idea Teeny, alot!
Also if there ever was for some weird bizaro reason another thing like this I suggest a countdown clock in each sim which is in sync with the release timer for that sim, that way we don't have to wait around for hours wondering at which exact moment it'll all release.
However I hope and doubt something like this will ever happen again.
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Julia Curie
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01-26-2004 21:31
From: someone Originally posted by Teeny Leviathan I agree that mass land releases should never happen again. Instead, there should be some sort of proceedure for applying for abandoned account plots.
We would submit an application, and the Lindens would see if the landowner has an active account. This would be followed by an email to the account owner. If the account is confirmed dead, the applicant would get an email. Then, the applicant would have 48 hours to claim the plot. After 48 hours, it goes public.
A system like this would keep land and abandoned builds from sitting idle for months. The only problem with this is many have already TRIED and asked and pleaded with Lindens over it. To which they tell you 'we can't tell you about that person or if they're gone'. Which obviously they aren't and they arent going to do a THING about it until the land releases itself after the 60 claim time or whatever it is. I hate it just as much as the next person. Its lame and stupid. If its been 55 days and no return. That's a really suggestive hint they aren't coming back. And if they DID.. would they even remember they have land/items/home/whatever somewhere?
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Moleculor Satyr
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01-26-2004 22:25
However, the initial idea is a good one. Sale Pending land needs to be highlighted in blue.
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Cyanide Leviathan
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01-27-2004 08:44
From: someone Originally posted by Moleculor Satyr However, the initial idea is a good one. Sale Pending land needs to be highlighted in blue. group land is blue.
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Catherine Omega
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01-27-2004 08:55
Well, then a DIFFERENT SHADE of blue. 
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Drift Monde
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01-27-2004 09:32
From: someone Originally posted by Teeny Leviathan I agree that mass land releases should never happen again. Instead, there should be some sort of proceedure for applying for abandoned account plots.
We would submit an application, and the Lindens would see if the landowner has an active account. This would be followed by an email to the account owner. If the account is confirmed dead, the applicant would get an email. Then, the applicant would have 48 hours to claim the plot. After 48 hours, it goes public.
A system like this would keep land and abandoned builds from sitting idle for months. I agree Teeny that something needs to be done about abandoned accts but there are those with lifetime accts that hold land even tho they dont play any more either. So if I am understanding this correctly they will never show as a "dead" account? Does this mean that their land holdings will never be released? I think that regardless of acct status if there is no account activity in a 60 day period then notification should be sent that land is being released in 30 days. If no response then land is set to go public 30 days from notification. If there is a response then it remains.
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Julia Curie
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01-27-2004 09:35
From: someone Originally posted by Drift Monde I agree Teeny that something needs to be done about abandoned accts but there are those with lifetime accts that hold land even tho they dont play any more either. So if I am understanding this correctly they will never show as a "dead" account? Does this mean that their land holdings will never be released?
I think that regardless of acct status if there is no account activity in a 60 day period then notification should be sent that land is being released in 30 days. If no response then land is set to go public 30 days from notification. If there is a response then it remains. My only additional question to that is this. IF it is as you said a person who is a lifer, has land, and all that. What would qualify for them to 'keep' the land, time wise? How long would a lifer have to be in-game in that time frame you mentioned in order for them to keep their land/objects/etc? I mean it very easily be a notification is sent after that 60 days, said member pops in, pops out. Hey it counted it. Land stays as it was, only difference now is the member pops into the game for 60 seconds to keep it such. Only reason it takes 60+ seconds is because of loading inventory. Unless they're a bare lifer then maybe 15 seconds and they're back out.
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eltee Statosky
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01-27-2004 11:42
From: someone Originally posted by Teeny Leviathan I agree that mass land releases should never happen again. Instead, there should be some sort of proceedure for applying for abandoned account plots.
We would submit an application, and the Lindens would see if the landowner has an active account. This would be followed by an email to the account owner. If the account is confirmed dead, the applicant would get an email. Then, the applicant would have 48 hours to claim the plot. After 48 hours, it goes public.
A system like this would keep land and abandoned builds from sitting idle for months. I support this product and/or service
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Drift Monde
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01-27-2004 15:48
From: someone Originally posted by Julia Curie My only additional question to that is this. IF it is as you said a person who is a lifer, has land, and all that. What would qualify for them to 'keep' the land, time wise? How long would a lifer have to be in-game in that time frame you mentioned in order for them to keep their land/objects/etc?
I mean it very easily be a notification is sent after that 60 days, said member pops in, pops out. Hey it counted it. Land stays as it was, only difference now is the member pops into the game for 60 seconds to keep it such. Only reason it takes 60+ seconds is because of loading inventory. Unless they're a bare lifer then maybe 15 seconds and they're back out. Dont get me wrong Julia.. i'm all for land being released as soon as someones acct goes dormant.. just not sure how they would do that for lifers.. I mean a lifer probably would not cancel their account because they are never going to be billed again so what would be the point. I would even like to see if there is no acct activity in 30 days that land is released but thats probably just wishful thinking. I think tho if there name doesnt even show up in "find" any longer then land should immediately be released after a 48hr notification...
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Moleculor Satyr
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01-27-2004 17:36
Then purple, or white, or SOMETHING, but something OTHER then red.
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Ananda Sandgrain
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01-27-2004 17:50
As long as the world keeps growing, I don't see it as a problem if certain parcels remain held by "deadheaders" over the long term. I am against anyone losing their land as long as they are a lifetimer or keep paying for their membership.
I would like to think of what I build here as a hobby, which I can walk away from and come back to. I don't doubt that over time, some parts of the world may end up being cluttered with old builds and full of squatters, but in this regard SL is different than the real world. Here, the world can keep expanding, and to remain healthy I think there must always be more land than people want, to keep it flourishing. Some old parts of the world may become slums or ghost towns, but if there are always new lands for active players to pioneer, I think you can afford to be generous and let your less-than-active neighbor keep his stuff where it is.
Classify this one as yet another issue that would be solved if there was a more generous overall supply of land.
I really hated to see this day when the vultures circled over places where some great old residents have come and gone. It was necessary with the transition to the new economy, but unless there is another similarly drastic change to the whole world, I never want to see another mass land release like it.
BTW, you can occasionally get a Linden to release an abandoned parcel to you, but only if the account is truly inactive.
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