Request to join group button

Would be nice to see a "Request to join group" button for invite-only groups, in place of the "Join" button that is there on the open enrollment groups. That way folks interested in joining an invite-only group can request to be added and the owner can allow or deny.

Or... you could just IM the owner... you know, since you're going to have to talk to them anyway 'cause it's invite only.

Don`t be an idiot.

Hmm, that looked rather smart to me.

I'm not. Seriously, think about it - if there's an invite only group it's invite only because the owner doesn't want any old random person joining, why are they going to just approve someone just because they've pressed a "request to join group" button? They're not; they're either going to IM asking why you want to join, or just flat out deny you.

You kind of were, reason is- apparently you have your own reason of why you dislike the idea, but if I suggested it then apparently I have my own reason as well. So, instead of being sarcastic about it you could have asked my reason. Because: "they're either going to IM asking why you want to join, or just flat out deny you" in my cases- is completely false. I will NOT IM people asking why they requested to join any of my groups, nor would I "flat out deny" them.

I run a very large rental community and my IMs ALWAYS get capped, I try to make sure i keep up with my e-mails to see any IMs i have missed, my gf however just totally misses the capped iMs, and she runs the community as well. Due to griefers we had to make this group invite only and its a major hastle to try and keep everything uniformed, plus they HAVE to be in this group to put objects down. If the renters could click a request to be added and we could check pending requests and approve/deny that would be of use in our case. I have also talked to quite a few people in world whom also runs large groups and thought this to be a good idea. Now, not everyone will like the idea obviously, but in mine and some other peoples cases, we are for it. Which is why I`ve suggested it.

I apologise for my tone. I know I can often come across in a hostile way, it's a habit I've been trying to kick for years. It was all meant light-heartedly, I assure you.

I don't dislike the idea at all. In fact, I totally agree with the essence of it and hadn't looked at it that way originally. Some of my work involves systems design though, and I don't feel that a button to request to be added is a necessary part of the groups system (though I do believe both it and the messaging system have flaws that need to be addressed). May I ask the situations that occur requiring someone to request to join the group?

I definitely don`t think its a neccessity at all, of course there are more important things to work on, but we both know LL does not work in that order.

It would just be a nice add on is all.




To answer your question- Like i mentioned one of my situations with the rental community, the renters HAVE to IM us to join the group, either that or if im online when they rent I`ll send them an invite. Im not always online, and IMs always cap, so if they could 'request to join' and then when I get online I could see all pending requests and deal with it from there, itd be nice.


Or even lesser than that just "so and so has requested to join your group" "View profile | approve | deny", for the lazy society, just more convenient. similar to a friends request.

But why do they have to ask to join the group in the first place? I'm afraid I know little about the rental business, can I take it from what you've said that the rental process is automated? If so, is it a scripted process or a property of the land? Either way it should be able to automatically add people to a group, wouldn't you rather not have to deal with it at all?

" Due to griefers we had to make this group invite only and its a major hastle to try and keep everything uniformed, plus they HAVE to be in this group to put objects down."






I think there is one rental box out there that adds the payee to a specified group, however we are dealing with homes here where there can be 4 or more in one house, each person needs an invite to participate in putting objects down.

Not to mention weve already gotten our rental boxes set up all over 3 sims and it was a custom made box that gives the payee ability to lock/unlock doors, and im not about to go through the time and hassle of finding and paying someone to make a whole new box that adds one person to the group (when usually the renter wants 2+ ppl added) and setting them up across 3 sims, erasing everyones rent, and re adding it.


This really isnt a big deal, I just thought it would be a nice add on.

Heh, I'm not suggesting it's a big thing. I just thought you might want to discuss it since you posted a thread. I'm just saying that I don't see a good reason to basically replicate a broken feature (IM) when something else is lacking. As I understand it right now, if everything is handled by scripts, for instance, the alteration to your custom rental system in order to automate the process should be minor - half an hour tops for any half arsed scripter.

If you just dropped the thought in off the top of your head and don't fancy taking it any further (I sometimes do that myself) I've no problem leaving it there though.

I wouldn't mind it. If it were added then it should be optional (ie a completely closed group wouldn't have this button because they don't want people asking for invites).
Ideally it could add an extra screen listing (unique) people who are requesting an invite, and all group members with the 'invite user to group' permission would be told when there are users in this list (e.g by a blue dialog when they log-in, and only if there are users still in the list, as someone else may have dealt with them already).
Members with the right permissions can then simply allow or deny an invite request, if allowed then the user is invited as normal, if denied then they are removed from the list silently.

Are you able to confirm this? AFAIK there is no LSL function that allows us to send group invites. It may be possible to do with some custom client, but that would be overly complex for what should be a simple task. If there is a way to do group invites via LSL I'd be very interested to know how it is done.

This whole feature request hinges on the fact that IMs get capped. Asking them to add more mechanism when they can't handle simple offline IM seems sort of futile.

The problem isn't a missing feature, it is that the features that are there don't work as they ought.

Not entirely. Even if the IM cap wasn't in place you could argue that constantly being hassled with IMs and/or having to deal with them shouldn't happen.

Not really, it was just a better example that applied.

When I was renting some vendor space, the owner had to come and reset my box. This was awhile ago so i dont remember perfectly what happened, but when you reset a box in the chat it lists all the settings (On some boxes anyway)..and in there it had an option asking what group to invite the payee to. it said "you will now be invited to ________. Click join to set down your objects" .something like that anyway

Was the first and last time I ever saw that. Not sure if it worked or who the box was by.

Perhaps it would simply tell them to join the group themselves but then why was it worded like that.

Perhaps it sent a message to the owner telling them to add that avatar. I can find no reference to a scripting command to add group members either.

Too bad.

Yeah, we all think so too, but there are issues that need to be worked out. What groups you can invite to is known only by the sim you're in and your client. Objects you own in other sims would not know.
And with the current behavior of objects remembering what group they are set to/deeded to/shared with (that is, you can set the group and then leave the group and the object is unaffected) there is the issue with spammed invites from an object that ejecting the owner doesn't stop the problem.