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May I have an island sim please

Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
07-07-2003 07:52
I got to thinking about the plight of ppl like me.

Who are ppl like me?

People like me are sick and tired of getting a project half built (min 2 weeks work) only to have some big jerk move in right next door and add a big box only to abandon it.

Or worse place there vibbrating thumping swirling noise machines that dont turn off when thier owners log off or leave the sim. Leaving us with our heads pounding or playing SL with our speakers off.

Now I am not one to present a problem without at the very least offering one solution. After thinking on the problems associated with moving anywhere within the would I had a few options:

1) Fly High ~move into the sky above the mess
2) Drown My Sorrows ~ build underwater
3) Quit ~ ok but thats the lastway out.
4) Wait and See ~ eww did that with TSO and so ticked off i finaly just said screw it and did a #3) hey it was after 9 mo. of 0 ~ none progress.

5) Ask the lindens in the Feature Suggestions Forum if they could please create a sim that contains islands big enough for a nice size lot say 30x30 - 60x60. They can be different sizes and shapes to make the landscaping more interesting.

The islands would of course be surrounded by water i would like to see the water be owned by the lindens as a buffer zone between island homes/lots to be used by the residents but not be purchased ever This appears to be the only reasonable way to ensure that my property is not butted up against someone elses property. It also seems the only reasonable way to ensure the noise buffer to some degree.

So that is my idea I just want a little pease that will last more than a week. I dont think I am asking for too much.

now who is with me ;) :D

Cat
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Lyra Muse
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07-07-2003 08:06
Now this is a nifty-cool idea, Catherine! They could be a bit more expensive like Tan.

Seconded!
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Catherine Cotton
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[insert applause here] ;)
07-07-2003 08:16
I agree Lyra I would not mind paying a bit more for privacy :D but only if i had too cus I am a cheapsake at heart dont ya know :D
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si Money
The nice demon.
Join date: 21 May 2003
Posts: 477
07-07-2003 08:28
From: someone
Originally posted by Lyra Muse
Now this is a nifty-cool idea, Catherine! They could be a bit more expensive like Tan.

Seconded!


Unfortunately if you think of the sim size, and draw distances, to accomplish what you're looking for would be a lot more expensive than Tan, more on order of the project sim cost. Otherwise, you simply waste a whole lot of sim resources.

The sound feature is one we've asked for better controls on for a while, unfortunately until that happens I think we're stuck with what we've got.

As far as the whole build a box and abandon goes, well. They're players here too, while you may not like their box, you should respect their right to have the box :} It's what we're all about.
Catherine Cotton
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SI
07-07-2003 09:19
From: someone
Originally posted by si Money
Unfortunately if you think of the sim size, and draw distances, to accomplish what you're looking for would be a lot more expensive than Tan, more on order of the project sim cost. Otherwise, you simply waste a whole lot of sim resources.

The sound feature is one we've asked for better controls on for a while, unfortunately until that happens I think we're stuck with what we've got.

As far as the whole build a box and abandon goes, well. They're players here too, while you may not like their box, you should respect their right to have the box :} It's what we're all about.


SI I understand your point of view but I play here as well and believe I have a say in the way i want to play this game.

If everyone should be able to do what they want anywhere in SL why does it seem like ppl with my kind of needs are excluded?

I am asking for a space for like minded pplI put my thoughts out there for those who feel the same and for the lindens to consider

I would love to enjoy a place I spent a long time creating in this game for more than a week or two. Creating a place takes a long time getting the details of the places I create take even longer. Just once I would love to see one of my projects completed before having to uproot it all and start over in a quiet place again. If I could afford to buy an entire sim I would of done so by now.

Cat
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si Money
The nice demon.
Join date: 21 May 2003
Posts: 477
Re: SI
07-07-2003 10:37
From: someone
Originally posted by Catherine Cotton
SI I understand your point of view but I play here as well and believe I have a say in the way i want to play this game.

If everyone should be able to do what they want anywhere in SL why does it seem like ppl with my kind of needs are excluded?

I am asking for a space for like minded pplI put my thoughts out there for those who feel the same and for the lindens to consider

I would love to enjoy a place I spent a long time creating in this game for more than a week or two. Creating a place takes a long time getting the details of the places I create take even longer. Just once I would love to see one of my projects completed before having to uproot it all and start over in a quiet place again. If I could afford to buy an entire sim I would of done so by now.

Cat


You absolutely have a say in how the game should be. So does everyone else.

I understand your frustration, but people like you are not 'excluded'. What you're asking for is dedicating sim resources to empty space so that other people cannot build around your objects. While this is possible, it wastes resources which are limited. The only way to avoid this is to build where people like you are, but that's no guarantee they will stay there. The land costs are basically a way of telling you how many sim resources you as a single player can occupy. If you can afford the land around you to hold it empty, please do. That's really the only way for this to work.

I spent a lot of time on my home as well, I understand what you're talking about. Luckily my sim has become almost vacant as of late, but I can tell you I do fear what may be built in the coming days. Certainly, though I won't tear my house down because of it.

We really need to learn to live with what others have. How things look are always, and will always be subjective. What someone loves, you may hate. There's no way to please everyone. You just have to look at it as "Well, if they like the way it looks, then it must have some value."

I realize you love your home, Charlie Omega and Lynnix Muse do as well, and run into the same problem. My question to you is though, what if someone despised your home? What if they lived in a constantly color shifting cone which they believed was gorgeous? Who is right, who is wrong? We can't decide such things, as both people are right, they just have to realize that while it's not to their taste, someone built it for a reason. Let them be happy with what they have, just as you are happy with what you have.
Catherine Cotton
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Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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07-08-2003 10:17
SI good points my friend :)

That is why I am suggesting the island idea. I looked around all the sims late last night and to be honest it would not take much to move under 5 properties from a nearly empty sim to another nearly empty sim and create an island sim in an existing sim. Take boardman for example as the days go by it is more and more empty. Same with a few others. Why not convert that existing space and get ppl to move into it. Changing the landscape cannot be all that difficult. All I am realy asking for is a bigger plot of land that is organized so with buffer zones in between. Those buffer zones could be managed by the residents and the lindens via self government. Who all wants a store there? Who all wants a park? Majority rules but that area is not butted up against anyones property.

What is a comfortable buffer zone? 2 squares all around would be nice not much to ask for in my humble opinion. (4x4 twice)

An island yes that would be nice but how about a decent plot of land in a boardman like setting. My personal thought is 12x24 just does not cut it. 30x30 with the 8m bufferzones around (but up to the curb ;) perfect. Now how hard is that? not hard at all.

Anyone reading this would you live there?

Cat
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Ryen Jade
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Join date: 21 Jun 2003
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07-08-2003 10:19
i have to fully aggree, i would pay 200 dollors per 44 plot as long as most of the sim is private ( well maby not 200)
si Money
The nice demon.
Join date: 21 May 2003
Posts: 477
07-08-2003 10:37
From: someone
Originally posted by Catherine Cotton
SI good points my friend :)

That is why I am suggesting the island idea. I looked around all the sims late last night and to be honest it would not take much to move under 5 properties from a nearly empty sim to another nearly empty sim and create an island sim in an existing sim. Take boardman for example as the days go by it is more and more empty. Same with a few others. Why not convert that existing space and get ppl to move into it. Changing the landscape cannot be all that difficult. All I am realy asking for is a bigger plot of land that is organized so with buffer zones in between. Those buffer zones could be managed by the residents and the lindens via self government. Who all wants a store there? Who all wants a park? Majority rules but that area is not butted up against anyones property.

What is a comfortable buffer zone? 2 squares all around would be nice not much to ask for in my humble opinion. (4x4 twice)

An island yes that would be nice but how about a decent plot of land in a boardman like setting. My personal thought is 12x24 just does not cut it. 30x30 with the 8m bufferzones around (but up to the curb ;) perfect. Now how hard is that? not hard at all.

Anyone reading this would you live there?

Cat


Welp, what you want then is to find enough people to support this sim, and propose it to the Lindens as a project. The project? A planned community, Utopia if you will. The zoning would then but up to you, but if you get enough people, and convince the Lindens that it's a good project, projects sims do go in.
Huns Valen
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Join date: 3 May 2003
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07-08-2003 23:40
So basically, a De Haro/Boardman type sim, just without the zoning guidelines...

I'd like to see your original idea, i.e. the above but with the intervening land sunk below the waterline. What's the word for that, archipelago? I like it, it's a fantastic idea. I lived in De Haro for "a long time" and I enjoyed it quite a lot... no giant ugly crap, anywhere!
Catherine Cotton
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Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
For Huns :D
07-08-2003 23:48
Huns ultimatly yes I would love the island idea to work out :D

Yes without the you must build a tent/cabin/house in a box but some stucture is fine with me so it all works together. I am flexible on the ideas but yes in my heart of hearts the islands is my 1st choice.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Huns I needed that :D

Cat
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Cailyn Miller
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Join date: 11 Mar 2003
Posts: 369
07-09-2003 01:29
I would love this sim to come into being! I'd definately move there.

I lived in Boardman since it opened, because there were no huge eyesores, loud scripts and so on. As soon as Tan opened, the eyesores appeared so most of the Boardman residents moved to Brown.

Is Lusk Estates still going? That seemed to be a similar idea, but with less restrictions (didn't have to be a pre-fab), and no water.
Catherine Cotton
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Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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07-09-2003 09:22
Thanks Cailyn :D woot ppl like my idea! I hear ya I have moved what 8-9 times now always seeking peace is burning me out on building (i know i can link my place and move it) Each place I move to I want to create a place just for that land. Lusk ahhh good old Lusk my very first place of residence lived right across from Fey Brightwillow :) life was good but a 12x24 lot backed up to some trees and a 8m height restiction made building a real big pain. I build 3 different places there trying to make it work as I loved the ppl there. Sadly it was just to small. No terriforming so I couldnt lower the land a bit for an extra meter of space. Thought about boardman as well but once I saw the homes size um no ty not for me too small. I thought about it and decided I could change everything except the door but that would be pushing the modification limits to the extreme.

In my fustation of being so crouded in one sim I sold off everything and moved to the camp ground friends thought I had lost my mind and again way too small and resticting for what my dreams were in SL.

This goes on and on threw many exasperating experiences that made me worder if there was a place for me in SL. I have a place in Slate now for the most part its very nice but I wonder everyday when the big noisy twirly box is going to move in right next door and place a wall right on the property line.

I learned from several ppl in this game that it is good ediquite to leave a buffer zone of at least 1 4x4 square all around your property just in case you both want to build a fence or plant a tree.

Its fustrating to have a dream and not see it happen especialy in a world that is virtural and there are not suppose to be limitations on creativity.

The island idea is just a way for ppl who have had simular experiences to finaly have a peaceful place where they are not constantly worrying about who will move in and spoil what is already built in their sim. Just my thoughts folks but I would be happy on an island :D Thanks for adding your positive thoughts to this thread ya give me hope :)

Cat
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Zypher Crash
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Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 55
07-09-2003 10:10
I know what your looking for a area where people want to build, build what they want "no restrictions", but dont want to be obstrcuted by something that dont fit in with your personal likes.

I was told by the lindens/ other people To join a community.

Not what I wanted to hear but oh well. I guess I should have suggested a community such as that as of a Modern day community. with roads ect ect kinda like amreicanas rout66

or 1 each
Gothic comminity "darkwood"
Presant community <------- Americana? or 50 - 70ish?
and
Futuristic Community "realtimes space dock" ?

hmm a 2000 community would be nice. I think thats what your after.
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Catherine Cotton
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Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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07-10-2003 06:23
Nope nope nope I will not be brushed off or pushed on an exisiting theme in hopes that my personal dreams do not exist or need to be satisfied. If nothing else guess I will save my pennies buy a sim and modifiy it to the island setting. Now the major problems I see with that are;

1) bloody hellfire taxes about 22k per week (ba dang!)
2) getting folks to move in.


other than that this is a simple can do project that could be done overnight if the lindens decided it was worthy of thier support.

realy happy to see so much support for this idea guys its much appreciated.

Cat
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Matina Appleby
Snow Princess
Join date: 24 Mar 2003
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I'll be moving in right away!
07-28-2003 02:30
Where is the landmark to my property on this dream simIsland?? :D
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David Cartier
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Join date: 8 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,018
Re: May I have an island sim please
07-28-2003 06:46
I was in the same predicament; I spend a lot of time socializing - too much really, lol - but I wanted a quiet refuge. I found a really nice wooded valley with Lindens on two sides, the edge of Tehama and a tall hill between me and Skee's compound. It is really nice - you'd hardly know I was right next to that nut, Skee! LOL.
You could raise a nice little island and just buy up all the undersea property in the near vicinity and use the appropriately tropical palm trees as a screen for anything nearby you didn't want to look at. Maybe have a little romantic beach bungalow as a rental.
From: someone
Originally posted by Catherine Cotton
I got to thinking about the plight of ppl like me.

Who are ppl like me?

People like me are sick and tired of getting a project half built (min 2 weeks work) only to have some big jerk move in right next door and add a big box only to abandon it.

Or worse place there vibbrating thumping swirling noise machines that dont turn off when thier owners log off or leave the sim. Leaving us with our heads pounding or playing SL with our speakers off.

Now I am not one to present a problem without at the very least offering one solution. After thinking on the problems associated with moving anywhere within the would I had a few options:

1) Fly High ~move into the sky above the mess
2) Drown My Sorrows ~ build underwater
3) Quit ~ ok but thats the lastway out.
4) Wait and See ~ eww did that with TSO and so ticked off i finaly just said screw it and did a #3) hey it was after 9 mo. of 0 ~ none progress.

5) Ask the lindens in the Feature Suggestions Forum if they could please create a sim that contains islands big enough for a nice size lot say 30x30 - 60x60. They can be different sizes and shapes to make the landscaping more interesting.

The islands would of course be surrounded by water i would like to see the water be owned by the lindens as a buffer zone between island homes/lots to be used by the residents but not be purchased ever This appears to be the only reasonable way to ensure that my property is not butted up against someone elses property. It also seems the only reasonable way to ensure the noise buffer to some degree.

So that is my idea I just want a little pease that will last more than a week. I dont think I am asking for too much.

now who is with me ;) :D

Cat
David Cartier
Registered User
Join date: 8 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,018
07-28-2003 06:51
Maybe a group of like-minded people getting together on a sim and just agreeing on an informal "Maui Theme" or "Tahiti Neighbourhood" would be both viable and fiscally achieveable. I would definitely be interested in that. Also, don't forget a few new sims are in the works up north - virgin territory!
From: someone
Originally posted by Catherine Cotton
SI good points my friend :)

That is why I am suggesting the island idea. I looked around all the sims late last night and to be honest it would not take much to move under 5 properties from a nearly empty sim to another nearly empty sim and create an island sim in an existing sim. Take boardman for example as the days go by it is more and more empty. Same with a few others. Why not convert that existing space and get ppl to move into it. Changing the landscape cannot be all that difficult. All I am realy asking for is a bigger plot of land that is organized so with buffer zones in between. Those buffer zones could be managed by the residents and the lindens via self government. Who all wants a store there? Who all wants a park? Majority rules but that area is not butted up against anyones property.

What is a comfortable buffer zone? 2 squares all around would be nice not much to ask for in my humble opinion. (4x4 twice)

An island yes that would be nice but how about a decent plot of land in a boardman like setting. My personal thought is 12x24 just does not cut it. 30x30 with the 8m bufferzones around (but up to the curb ;) perfect. Now how hard is that? not hard at all.

Anyone reading this would you live there?

Cat