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                     Hiro Pendragon 
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                    Join date: 22 Jan 2004 
                    
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                         10-12-2004 21:49 
                        Releasing land just gives land barrons more money. Most noobs don't realize this. Let's change it so that released land goes to auction, or is donated to Land for Landless, or some other good cause, or give players a choice right up front. /120/e1/24661/1.html 
                        
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                     Moleculor Satyr 
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                         10-12-2004 22:16 
                        From: Hiro Pendragon Releasing land just gives land barrons more money. Most noobs don't realize this. Let's change it so that released land goes to auction, or is donated to Land for Landless, or some other good cause, or give players a choice right up front. /120/e1/24661/1.htmlBut put in a nice 1-hour reclaim time in case someone makes a mistake (but the land is still counted in their tier). Any mistakes that can't be rectified in an hour should be taken up with LL on a case by case basis.  
                        
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                     Oz Spade 
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                         10-13-2004 03:09 
                        I'll copy and paste what I basicly said on that thread:
  All these issues with the Release Land... button could be EASILY avoided if the following idea was put in place: 
  Upon clicking Release Land... the land goes into "holding" mode, in this mode only the previous owner of the plot can purchase it (it appears public to that user only, all other users see the land as still owned by the previous owner), land remains in holding for say 24 hours. At 12 hours an email is sent to the previous owner informing them they have x ammount of hours left to reclaim their land or it will be put on auction. At the end of 24 hours the land is then put into auction. 
  This would make public land non-existant. 
  You could still transfer ownership by selling it for 0L$ if you wished (effectivley "public" land for a directed user). 
  Also you could add on that when the user clicks Release Land... they must first go to the website to actualy confirm they want to put the land into "holding" mode (we have to confirm to buy land, why not confirm to release it?).
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  Addition onto that: for clarification, land in Holding would still count toward your land allotment, this is to avoid users from putting land into holding for non-legit reasons. The land would only be released from your allotment when it was either approved by you to be put on the auction block or when the holding time runs out.
  I would also add a "Sell Land To Auction" button that allowed you to put up your own land for auction and get the money from it (confirmation on webpage would be needed). 
                        
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                     Land Baron 
                    Adding value, posthaste!! 
                    
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                         10-13-2004 04:59 
                        I disagree! Land Barons such as myself are the true stewards of the future of SL!
  We add VALUE by the mere act of purchase!
  Crowds prostrate themselves and ladies by the score faint as we pass by!
  I would prefer release to be modified to 'release to <baron>' to hasten the acquisition process!
  Once you think of it, it seems the most LOGICAL conclusion, given how SL is run!
  *Chortles and runs off to another land buying opportunity, scanner network humming!* 
                        
                    
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                     Bakuzelas Khan 
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                         10-15-2004 19:02 
                        I don't feel "releasing land" should ever be an option. You bought the land, you sell the land. Sell it to anyone, a friend, a stranger. The button to release it should not exist. If you quit the game, eventually it will go back to LL, and then LL should split it up to give to newbies in their Land for Landless program. 
                        
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                     Moleculor Satyr 
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                         10-15-2004 20:07 
                        From: Bakuzelas Khan I don't feel "releasing land" should ever be an option. You bought the land, you sell the land. Sell it to anyone, a friend, a stranger. The button to release it should not exist. If you quit the game, eventually it will go back to LL, and then LL should split it up to give to newbies in their Land for Landless program. If you need to tier down rapidly to buy land elsewhere, and can't sell it fast, releasing is a good option.  
                        
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