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Hikaru Yamamoto

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Join date: 10 Mar 2003

Posts: 895

01-08-2006 21:44

I have a script that used to let me phantom and go thru objects. It was very very handy. But now it won't work and someone told me the script has been changed

Is this true? or is there a better script out there for it? If not then I want it back

this i absolutely cannot live without!!! I need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just worked hours upon hours on an avatar that needs this script. I worked really really hard on it!!! And its all for nothing without phantom. PLEASE OH PLEASE I AM BEGGING YOU ON MY KNEES I NEED THIS SCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Beatfox Xevious

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Join date: 1 Jun 2004

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01-08-2006 22:57

The Lindens considered the phantom av hacks to be exploits, and I believe they patched up the last one a couple versions back. I'm afraid you're out of luck here. There is now no known way to make an av phantom.

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Bertha Horton

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01-08-2006 23:40

8•)

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Hikaru Yamamoto

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Join date: 10 Mar 2003

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01-09-2006 11:36

*sniffs*

i hope we get it back someday. I can't be Meroko without her divine power of going thru walls.

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Beatfox Xevious

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01-09-2006 12:54

The only way we'd get it back is if the Lindens completely reversed their stance on phantom avs. They view it as a griefing/privacy-invasion tool, and as such are very much against it.

It would take a lot of convincing from upstanding community members to get them to reconsider, and as of yet I haven't seen much of this.

Edit: I should mention that there were a number of these people who protested the Linden patch-ups; however, these were mostly out of telehub-to-destination flight concerns, which are now moot with the advent of P2P.

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Rickard Roentgen

Renaissance Punk

Join date: 4 Apr 2004

Posts: 1,869

01-09-2006 14:39

Well, the argument against phantom avs is ridiculous. If walls actually kept people out of a place then it might make sense, but they do not. They really don't even make it harder.

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Aliasi Stonebender

Return of Catbread

Join date: 30 Jan 2005

Posts: 1,858

01-09-2006 15:13

you can kinda-sorta fake it in multiple ways, though, including "using a non-physical moving 'vehicle' to simulate flight", or dropping a sit-teleport, or just rezzing a cube, sitting on it, edit-drag it through a wall... not as handy as phantom, but you can do something with it.

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Candide LeMay

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Join date: 30 Dec 2004

Posts: 538

01-09-2006 15:36

The phantom AV holes were plugged in 1.7. I would like to thank both Andrew Linden and the rats^H^H^H^Hresidents who helped him discover those holes for making SL less enjoyable and usable.

Rickard Roentgen

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Join date: 4 Apr 2004

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01-09-2006 15:53

I may have a solution that both fills part of the roll of missing phantom shields, and encourages the implementation of havok 2

. Moving very fast will let you tunnel through objects. I may be able to make an attachment (or possibly one has already been made) that will allow you to move in small very fast physical jumps. This would allow you to pass through walls without sit hacking. it would be clunkier than the phantom shield, and would not make you immune to bullets, but it would allow the moving through objects bit. Implementing a new physics engine would be about the only way to patch this one.

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Beatfox Xevious

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01-09-2006 16:09

From: Rickard Roentgen

I may have a solution that both fills part of the roll of missing phantom shields, and encourages the implementation of havok 2

. Moving very fast will let you tunnel through objects. I may be able to make an attachment (or possibly one has already been made) that will allow you to move in small very fast physical jumps. This would allow you to pass through walls without sit hacking. it would be clunkier than the phantom shield, and would not make you immune to bullets, but it would allow the moving through objects bit. Implementing a new physics engine would be about the only way to patch this one.

Interesting idea! I may have to start toying around with this myself...

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Ben Bacon

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Join date: 14 Jul 2005

Posts: 809

01-10-2006 02:25

"Ok, now, run at the wall really really really fast."

*WHACK*

"Ow - I dink I boke by doze."

"Well, yeah - that's cuz you weren't running fast enough, innit?"

oh - and brownie points to Candide for using (or even knowing about) ctrl-H - brings back fond memories

Rickard Roentgen

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Join date: 4 Apr 2004

Posts: 1,869

01-10-2006 08:58

lol, precisely.

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Where Is Phantom??!! :o
Hikaru Yamamoto Oldbie Join date: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 895	01-08-2006 21:44 I have a script that used to let me phantom and go thru objects. It was very very handy. But now it won't work and someone told me the script has been changed Is this true? or is there a better script out there for it? If not then I want it back this i absolutely cannot live without!!! I need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just worked hours upon hours on an avatar that needs this script. I worked really really hard on it!!! And its all for nothing without phantom. PLEASE OH PLEASE I AM BEGGING YOU ON MY KNEES I NEED THIS SCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _____________________ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Europa/152/33/69/ Its hippos all the way down...
Beatfox Xevious is THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 879	01-08-2006 22:57 The Lindens considered the phantom av hacks to be exploits, and I believe they patched up the last one a couple versions back. I'm afraid you're out of luck here. There is now no known way to make an av phantom. _____________________ My Beatworks: Zephyr Chimes wind chimes, the KanaMaster Japanese kana tutor, and the FREE Invisibility Prim Public. Look for them at the Luskwood General Store in Lusk (144, 165). "You have been frozen. You cannot move or chat. A pony will contact you via instant message (IM)." - mysterious system message I received after making off with Pony Linden
Bertha Horton Fat w/ Ice Cream Join date: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 835	01-08-2006 23:40 8•) _____________________ Trapped in a world she never made!
Hikaru Yamamoto Oldbie Join date: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 895	01-09-2006 11:36 sniffs i hope we get it back someday. I can't be Meroko without her divine power of going thru walls. _____________________ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Europa/152/33/69/ Its hippos all the way down...
Beatfox Xevious is THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 879	01-09-2006 12:54 The only way we'd get it back is if the Lindens completely reversed their stance on phantom avs. They view it as a griefing/privacy-invasion tool, and as such are very much against it. It would take a lot of convincing from upstanding community members to get them to reconsider, and as of yet I haven't seen much of this. Edit: I should mention that there were a number of these people who protested the Linden patch-ups; however, these were mostly out of telehub-to-destination flight concerns, which are now moot with the advent of P2P. _____________________ My Beatworks: Zephyr Chimes wind chimes, the KanaMaster Japanese kana tutor, and the FREE Invisibility Prim Public. Look for them at the Luskwood General Store in Lusk (144, 165). "You have been frozen. You cannot move or chat. A pony will contact you via instant message (IM)." - mysterious system message I received after making off with Pony Linden
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	01-09-2006 14:39 Well, the argument against phantom avs is ridiculous. If walls actually kept people out of a place then it might make sense, but they do not. They really don't even make it harder. _____________________
Aliasi Stonebender Return of Catbread Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,858	01-09-2006 15:13 you can kinda-sorta fake it in multiple ways, though, including "using a non-physical moving 'vehicle' to simulate flight", or dropping a sit-teleport, or just rezzing a cube, sitting on it, edit-drag it through a wall... not as handy as phantom, but you can do something with it. _____________________ Red Mary says, softly, “How a man grows aggressive when his enemy displays propriety. He thinks: I will use this good behavior to enforce my advantage over her. Is it any wonder people hold good behavior in such disregard?” Anything Surplus Home to the "Nuke the Crap Out of..." series of games and other stuff
Candide LeMay Registered User Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 538	01-09-2006 15:36 The phantom AV holes were plugged in 1.7. I would like to thank both Andrew Linden and the rats^H^H^H^Hresidents who helped him discover those holes for making SL less enjoyable and usable.
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	01-09-2006 15:53 I may have a solution that both fills part of the roll of missing phantom shields, and encourages the implementation of havok 2 . Moving very fast will let you tunnel through objects. I may be able to make an attachment (or possibly one has already been made) that will allow you to move in small very fast physical jumps. This would allow you to pass through walls without sit hacking. it would be clunkier than the phantom shield, and would not make you immune to bullets, but it would allow the moving through objects bit. Implementing a new physics engine would be about the only way to patch this one. _____________________
Beatfox Xevious is THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 879	01-09-2006 16:09 From: Rickard Roentgen I may have a solution that both fills part of the roll of missing phantom shields, and encourages the implementation of havok 2 . Moving very fast will let you tunnel through objects. I may be able to make an attachment (or possibly one has already been made) that will allow you to move in small very fast physical jumps. This would allow you to pass through walls without sit hacking. it would be clunkier than the phantom shield, and would not make you immune to bullets, but it would allow the moving through objects bit. Implementing a new physics engine would be about the only way to patch this one. Interesting idea! I may have to start toying around with this myself... _____________________ My Beatworks: Zephyr Chimes wind chimes, the KanaMaster Japanese kana tutor, and the FREE Invisibility Prim Public. Look for them at the Luskwood General Store in Lusk (144, 165). "You have been frozen. You cannot move or chat. A pony will contact you via instant message (IM)." - mysterious system message I received after making off with Pony Linden
Ben Bacon Registered User Join date: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 809	01-10-2006 02:25 "Ok, now, run at the wall really really really fast." WHACK "Ow - I dink I boke by doze." "Well, yeah - that's cuz you weren't running fast enough, innit?" oh - and brownie points to Candide for using (or even knowing about) ctrl-H - brings back fond memories
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	01-10-2006 08:58 lol, precisely. _____________________

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