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Sayden Westland
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09-12-2008 08:54
LINDEN LABS:::::::READ THIS http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/08/07/virtual.living/And use the chance now to stabilize the grid, get more then 65K online without the grid breaking down, and you will be a part of this explosion...dont, and you will lose everything. I want you to succeed, I want to be a part of Second Life, in the year 2020, do you??? Thankyou for your understanding, regard and reply Sayden Westland
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Wildefire Walcott
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09-12-2008 09:06
It's ABOUT TIME someone asked Linden Lab to stabilize the grid!
* pounds a fist loudly on the desk for emphasis *
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Nyoko Salome
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09-12-2008 09:11
From: Wildefire Walcott It's ABOUT TIME someone asked Linden Lab to stabilize the grid! * pounds a fist loudly on the desk for emphasis * 'howard johnson is right!' 'rrerreck!'
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Sayden Westland
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09-12-2008 09:23
Unfortunatley Im not the first, but one of millions probably that have asked LL to stabilize the grid, dont know if that was sarcastic, but who cares anyways, if you would use that link and read that article, then LL should ask themselves to stabilize the grid, and if all those scientists and prognosers are correct, that the facebook explosion took place will soon affect the Virtual Worlds, hence Second Life, then its also in LL best interest, they have the main idea nailed down, and a great ground to build from, just stabilize this mo fo and get a million online a night and you will lead that explosion that is coming, in regarding the article.... Here it is again: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/08/07/virtual.living/Read it, it will motivate you, and will piss you off at the same time, and next time your sitting at your log in screen with the survey staring at you because you cant log on because over 64K users are on/ half of them bots and non paying customers/ then read this article again, and you will eat your heart out at the fact that LL has a HUGE chance here to lead the role of growing and exploding realms of Virtual worlds and they are not using it.!!! /me slams his fist down on the desk as well. I wish I had that chance, I would use it, to its upmost fullest. Sayden
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Meade Paravane
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09-12-2008 09:35
I agree! LL should go back to the code base from when I started!
Sure, only about 10-15k could get in at once then. And we didn't have H4. Or mono. Or sculpties. Or glow (actually a good thing - hate glow abuse!). Even flexi prims were still sorta new. And stuff crashed WAY more often. And griefers were a lot worse.
/me sighs. Yep. The good old days...
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Sayden Westland
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09-12-2008 09:42
Imagine this Phillip Rosedale: YEAR 2020: Sitting on your yacht in Mallorca sipping on a Martini, with your handheld, glass fiber keyless and mouseless 'laptop' at your side, with thought controlled controls, and voice activated, your 3D photorealistic skin of your own rl self, and your 'feeling device' implanted and reacting with your nervous system, and watching your Online users topple 5 Million, you exclude the Grid Stability Site because of its sensless existence after years of superb stability, and think back to the year 2008 when you finally decided to get this 'really' going and lead the wave of Virtual Worlds into this next decade, you pat yourself on your back and say, 'dam, Im glad I took that opportunity, used that chance and can sit here in retirement giving millions to charity in Africa every month, and have secured my childrens future ten fold, if I never read that article from CNN maybe I wouldnt be here right now'.. His thoughts go on into bliss...
Wouldnt that be nice Mr Rosedale, then go out and get, use the overwhelming advantage you already posess, and like Nike alwayys says on that unused box in my corner some call a TV and has some very high prim count probabaly...''JUST DO IT''.
Thanks for letting me share.
Sayden
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Ordinal Malaprop
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09-12-2008 09:49
From: Wildefire Walcott It's ABOUT TIME someone asked Linden Lab to stabilize the grid!
* pounds a fist loudly on the desk for emphasis * You know, until this thread they had been sitting around on bean bags saying "ah, concurrency and stability, who cares about them? Pass the cookies, Katt." And the supine customer base, through ignorance and apathy, had said nothing. Until now. I believe we may be entering a New Age.
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Sayden Westland
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09-12-2008 09:57
geesh, the sarcasm is rampant, I was trying to pass along a link to a very exciting article, that should have excited YOU and LL..Not lay claim that sl has problems and hasnt gotten better, which it has, but because some think bieng sarcastic will address the idea of an era that is approaching better than formal discussion, then its pointless to post, create a thread, or any form of chat like conversation in a forum where the next always knows better.
my sarcastic take: After awhile in Second Life, I have seen the cookies bieng passed around the table of debate, and even dipped into the milk, the milk dripping on our seats and chins and we are asking God to wipe it up, dam, why doesnt he answer!!
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Sayden Westland
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09-12-2008 10:48
OK, it seems I have been posted by in this thread supporters and or even alternates to Linden Lab employees and to set the record straight, I am a loving fan of Second Life, and my registered user date of June 08 was the day I turned my free account into a paying resident, a business owner paying bundles in classifieds, and a loving and abiding SL citizen with the ability to hate/love and be hated/loved and it having reprocussions. I want Second Life to survive and be the best it can be, and I wanted to pass along that link as a motivating factor and nothing else and may have worded my own motivation wrongly. I see the awesome improvemnt that has been underway in SL, and my own worry is the bordered user availablility, exclude that factor, and the article by CNN could have been titled 'Second Life leading the way....'. and I wish it was. Its keeps getting better, the choices we as residents have, the opportunities we have, but with a global market about to 'really' plunge into this metaverse, then having limits of 65k will only fuel other forums and metaverses, and I would like that fuel to be doussed here, in Second Life, I seem to have worded that discouragement incorrectly and have subjected myself to sarcasim and critiscm that was not contructional. I apologize. For better or for worse the link one more time, and I now retreat in my delinquishment and hope you will understand my unpriveledged thread. http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/08/07/virtual.living/
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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09-12-2008 11:37
That article is over a year old. (o.o) Wah... And here I was thinking I had to prepare a whole new set of spam grief gestures for the pending noobie surge in Hanja. (T_T)
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Lindal Kidd
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09-12-2008 14:09
Sayden, we're all with you, honest.
The reason you're getting the sarcastic responses is that that article is very old. When it was published, SL concurrencies were at around 30-40K. And things were unstable as could be. We all howled.
Now a year later, we're hitting 65K concurrencies. Things still get cranky when the numbers start inching up into that range, but on the whole, things are much more stable than they were a year ago.
Growth and stability are an ongoing process. There's no easy or quick fix...especially since the code isn't all that terrific to start with. Worse, people who understand this stuff (I don't) tell me that the underlying conceptual structure itself won't scale indefinitely.
Things ARE improving. Slowly, a bit at a time. Sometimes they get worse for a while, and we all howl again. Then they get better again, at some slightly higher level of performance.
I don't know what the ultimate solution will be. Maybe SL will evolve, get patched, upgraded, improved, and limp into a long and successful future. Sort of like DOS and Windows. Or maybe LL will introduce Third Life, a new virtual world that is designed from the ground up to support high data rates, stunning graphics, and a huge user base. Or maybe somebody else will launch a competing product and we will all emigrate to a new world.
SL began as a laboratory experiment. I think it's completely amazing that it's become what it is today, even when I scream at LL about its shortcomings.
Oh...and you might want to address your next complaint to Mark, not Philip. We have a new CEO at the helm.
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Tegg Bode
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09-12-2008 15:28
From: Meade Paravane I agree! LL should go back to the code base from when I started! Sure, only about 10-15k could get in at once then. And we didn't have H4. Or mono. Or sculpties. Or glow (actually a good thing - hate glow abuse!). Even flexi prims were still sorta new. And stuff crashed WAY more often. And griefers were a lot worse. /me sighs. Yep. The good old days... I suspect we could dump flexies, color and sound too for the sake of stability 
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09-12-2008 15:30
From: Sayden Westland Imagine this Phillip Rosedale: YEAR 2020: Sitting on your yacht in Mallorca sipping on a Martini, with your handheld, glass fiber keyless and mouseless 'laptop' at your side, with thought controlled controls, and voice activated, your 3D photorealistic skin of your own rl self, and your 'feeling device' implanted and reacting with your nervous system, and watching your Online users topple 5 Million, you exclude the Grid Stability Site because of its sensless existence after years of superb stability, and think back to the year 2008 when you finally decided to get this 'really' going and lead the wave of Virtual Worlds into this next decade, Yep 5 million online and there'll still only be 20k of them real people, rest will be bots.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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09-12-2008 15:31
From: Lindal Kidd Sayden, we're all with you, honest. No we are not. I reject all association with somebody who doesn't even know who the damn CEO is.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-12-2008 16:20
There's sound in SL?????? 
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09-12-2008 16:29
From: Imnotgoing Sideways That article is over a year old. It took the shockwave from that explosion some time to reach him.
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Sayden Westland
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09-13-2008 02:14
Well, I agree with you on alot of your responses, it seems SL has been on a great improvement roll, and that the article is a year old does not make it obsolete, but again signifies its importance as that surge is coming ever closer, I think we should read that article every month to remind ourselves what can be coming, what is defintiley coming. But, my relatively newbie status compared to the average poster on this thread shows that its my experience that has been remarked apon, not my uncanny ability to see the momentum and underlying chance that SL has to offer in the coming decade. Ordinal Malaprop, I know who the CEO is, and I chose not to adress him, so you may refuse association with me as most of your posts seem to refuse association with any form of constructive communication within this forum, you undoubtley took the time to adress this thread once again, rather confirming your association as denying it  Anyways: the grid is improving, and I am thankful, this article is eye popping in what it could mean to SL in the future and therfore carries almost no date as until 2020 is reached, its text carries the same motion and meaning, and its truth not diminished by time. Thankyou most of all for your reaction, I see alot of uncaring residents out there, not willing to left click anywhere else unless is supports thier personal account, and the stability may lay honestly with us, and not in SF. Our rampant creation, bots, ad farms, the list goes on and on, have undoubtely contributed to the strain on the servers. I am a fan of the direction LL is gong in putting a lid on the can of worms when it comes to Ad farms. That type of personal adressing to the creations of residents objectivley trying to better the whole, weather it be visual or technical, is a step in the right direction. So much to say, and again this link is another day older, I will continue then to hope, live in my own little world of sculpts I currently live in, and support any form of improvement LL will throw at me, as well as carry understanding when it does not happen. As you all have for so many years now.
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Osgeld Barmy
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09-13-2008 13:11
yea
what noone seems to know or remember about 2 years ago they were doing stress test's on the grid to see if they could get 7000 users online!
id like to see you build a system that does everything SL does and expand it that rapidly
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Sayden Westland
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09-15-2008 03:30
From: Osgeld Barmy yea
what noone seems to know or remember about 2 years ago they were doing stress test's on the grid to see if they could get 7000 users online!
id like to see you build a system that does everything SL does and expand it that rapidly You sound like a 4 year old, and if you read my previous posts, I have seen the improvement, read back, then you will embarrass yourself. Im not talking about the improvements either, its about getting ready for the future, stabilizing what we have so that when 70K is online I can still upload... BTW, yesterday, Sunday, 68K online, wow, Ive never seen that number. things were a little slow, but tp, logg on, all was working..a step in the right direction for the coming decade.
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Meade Paravane
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09-15-2008 07:50
From: Sayden Westland BTW, yesterday, Sunday, 68K online, wow, Ive never seen that number. things were a little slow, but tp, logg on, all was working..a step in the right direction for the coming decade. I saw it hit a little over 69.5k online. Was hoping for a 7 but it didn't quite get there..
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