Second Life Forums Archive - Ratings.... again

Matina Appleby

Snow Princess

Join date: 24 Mar 2003

Posts: 281

11-10-2003 00:25

Ratings seems very unfair as they are today. Like the one where a new player can come in, socialzie a lot and be at that weeks top of great builders in SL without dropping one single prim to the ground.

1st suggestion: remove buildings rating from the persons rating window COMPLETELY! NOW! HURRY! ARGH! Only let us rate from a builds we see in the world. Of course someone will put out a cube and ask all they friends to rate it but nm that, that wont get you to the top i am sure (at least not if you also follow my #3).

2nd suggestion: credit all the scripters out there. Do the same for scripts. Let us be able to rate a cool script. The same system as for a build/item, olny let those with a script inside have the rate script option in addition to rate build.

3rd suggestion: after you have met most people in world and have aother life than just hang out in the welcomming area its getting tough to get those rates you need. What if the stipend wasnt based on how many rates you had that week, but rather how many of the total number of the active players in world have rated you positively? Ever.

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Ama Omega

Lost Wanderer

Join date: 11 Dec 2002

Posts: 1,770

11-10-2003 00:48

1) Yes please.

2) Yes please.

3) To my understanding this is how it works currently. Used to be that weekly was 25% of the bonus but they removed that IIRC.

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Eggy Lippmann

Wiktator

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 7,939

11-10-2003 04:42

Did they also remove calling cards from the formula?
I was told this in the game but dont think I ever saw it in an official Linden statement or anything.

ZHugh Becquerel

Registered User

Join date: 24 Oct 2003

Posts: 68

11-10-2003 06:12

It'd be nice to have something like Dwell for scripts. That way we can just give stuff out for free and people use what they like.

This has two practical advantages: people are more likely to try your stuff even if they don't know what it is, and, if you want to try someone else's stuff you don't run the risk of shelling out money for something that doesn't do quite exactly what you were hoping for.

It also means we can provide dedicated modules for certain functionality - rather than having sell entire functioning objects - and we get paid as and when people use them.

Catherine Omega

Geometry Ninja

Join date: 10 Jan 2003

Posts: 2,053

11-10-2003 06:16

Well, I can't tell if Calling Cards still being added into High Score. The highest users in Calling Cards are also up there in Behavior, Appearance and Building. As far as I know, it's been removed, but like you said, Eggy, I don't recall seeing an offical post on the matter.

Camille Serpentine

Eater of the Dead

Join date: 6 Oct 2003

Posts: 1,236

11-10-2003 06:57

I think building rating should stay the way it is - connected to the other 3 when you right-click on someone.

If they have a av that has been built and attached, I would rate them for building.
Most of the things I build are to attach to my AV.

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Lordfly Digeridoo

Prim Orchestrator

Join date: 21 Jul 2003

Posts: 3,628

11-10-2003 07:18

ANYTHING having to do with avatars should go under APPEARANCE. That's the whole point ofi t.

BUILDING is for actual prim builds and scripts in-world only.

this whole rating business is getting silly. remove the building rating from the "rate" dialog.

LF

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Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

11-10-2003 07:48

Hmm, I agree with LF....again. I'm making some kind of (bad?) habit out of that.

Oh and 1+2 sound great.

I'm not sure dwell would work out for scripts, though, it seems like it'd be too easily abused. You could just make a crapload of script objects and attach them to your av, or put scripts that do nothing into attachments you sell...etc.

Maybe a special "dwell-like" system designed just for scripts would be better but I don't know what it would look like.

Cienna Rand

Inside Joke

Join date: 20 Sep 2003

Posts: 489

11-10-2003 08:02

I completely agree about removing Building from the avatar pie menu Rate selection. The only time I rate someone on Building via that pie menu is if I am sitting there watching them build, really.

I fully agree with supporting this service or product. :)

Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

Join date: 14 Mar 2003

Posts: 2,779

11-10-2003 08:08

Why don't we just make our OWN reputation system? It can be done with some clever scripting...

How about this: everyone who is a part of this reputation system donates a (manditory) certain percent of their account every week, and this money gets distributed among everyone according to rating.

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Camille Serpentine

Eater of the Dead

Join date: 6 Oct 2003

Posts: 1,236

11-10-2003 08:12

I don't mind getting rid of the rating system as a whole but if we're going to have it and then separate parts how do you limit them?

If I build something, have a script in it that runs, and then decide to attach it to my av, what's the difference with that and just randomly placing it on my land and being rated for it?

Would I then be limited to the types of builds that qualify for that rating?

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Cubey Terra

Aircraft Builder

Join date: 6 Sep 2003

Posts: 1,725

11-10-2003 08:13

Yes, let's build our own reputation system. If you meet someone you like or who's a good builder, remember them.

Tiger Crossing

The Prim Maker

Join date: 18 Aug 2003

Posts: 1,560

11-10-2003 10:34

Or give them money.

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Ratings.... again
Matina Appleby Snow Princess Join date: 24 Mar 2003 Posts: 281	11-10-2003 00:25 Ratings seems very unfair as they are today. Like the one where a new player can come in, socialzie a lot and be at that weeks top of great builders in SL without dropping one single prim to the ground. 1st suggestion: remove buildings rating from the persons rating window COMPLETELY! NOW! HURRY! ARGH! Only let us rate from a builds we see in the world. Of course someone will put out a cube and ask all they friends to rate it but nm that, that wont get you to the top i am sure (at least not if you also follow my #3). 2nd suggestion: credit all the scripters out there. Do the same for scripts. Let us be able to rate a cool script. The same system as for a build/item, olny let those with a script inside have the rate script option in addition to rate build. 3rd suggestion: after you have met most people in world and have aother life than just hang out in the welcomming area its getting tough to get those rates you need. What if the stipend wasnt based on how many rates you had that week, but rather how many of the total number of the active players in world have rated you positively? Ever. _____________________
Ama Omega Lost Wanderer Join date: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 1,770	11-10-2003 00:48 1) Yes please. 2) Yes please. 3) To my understanding this is how it works currently. Used to be that weekly was 25% of the bonus but they removed that IIRC. _____________________ -- 010000010110110101100001001000000100111101101101011001010110011101100001 --
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	11-10-2003 04:42 Did they also remove calling cards from the formula? I was told this in the game but dont think I ever saw it in an official Linden statement or anything.
ZHugh Becquerel Registered User Join date: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 68	11-10-2003 06:12 It'd be nice to have something like Dwell for scripts. That way we can just give stuff out for free and people use what they like. This has two practical advantages: people are more likely to try your stuff even if they don't know what it is, and, if you want to try someone else's stuff you don't run the risk of shelling out money for something that doesn't do quite exactly what you were hoping for. It also means we can provide dedicated modules for certain functionality - rather than having sell entire functioning objects - and we get paid as and when people use them.
Catherine Omega Geometry Ninja Join date: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 2,053	11-10-2003 06:16 Well, I can't tell if Calling Cards still being added into High Score. The highest users in Calling Cards are also up there in Behavior, Appearance and Building. As far as I know, it's been removed, but like you said, Eggy, I don't recall seeing an offical post on the matter.
Camille Serpentine Eater of the Dead Join date: 6 Oct 2003 Posts: 1,236	11-10-2003 06:57 I think building rating should stay the way it is - connected to the other 3 when you right-click on someone. If they have a av that has been built and attached, I would rate them for building. Most of the things I build are to attach to my AV. _____________________
Lordfly Digeridoo Prim Orchestrator Join date: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 3,628	11-10-2003 07:18 ANYTHING having to do with avatars should go under APPEARANCE. That's the whole point ofi t. BUILDING is for actual prim builds and scripts in-world only. this whole rating business is getting silly. remove the building rating from the "rate" dialog. LF _____________________ ---- http://www.lordfly.com/ http://www.twitter.com/lordfly http://www.plurk.com/lordfly
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	11-10-2003 07:48 Hmm, I agree with LF....again. I'm making some kind of (bad?) habit out of that. Oh and 1+2 sound great. I'm not sure dwell would work out for scripts, though, it seems like it'd be too easily abused. You could just make a crapload of script objects and attach them to your av, or put scripts that do nothing into attachments you sell...etc. Maybe a special "dwell-like" system designed just for scripts would be better but I don't know what it would look like.
Cienna Rand Inside Joke Join date: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 489	11-10-2003 08:02 I completely agree about removing Building from the avatar pie menu Rate selection. The only time I rate someone on Building via that pie menu is if I am sitting there watching them build, really. I fully agree with supporting this service or product. :)
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	11-10-2003 08:08 Why don't we just make our OWN reputation system? It can be done with some clever scripting... How about this: everyone who is a part of this reputation system donates a (manditory) certain percent of their account every week, and this money gets distributed among everyone according to rating. _____________________ Touche.
Camille Serpentine Eater of the Dead Join date: 6 Oct 2003 Posts: 1,236	11-10-2003 08:12 I don't mind getting rid of the rating system as a whole but if we're going to have it and then separate parts how do you limit them? If I build something, have a script in it that runs, and then decide to attach it to my av, what's the difference with that and just randomly placing it on my land and being rated for it? Would I then be limited to the types of builds that qualify for that rating? _____________________
Cubey Terra Aircraft Builder Join date: 6 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,725	11-10-2003 08:13 Yes, let's build our own reputation system. If you meet someone you like or who's a good builder, remember them.
Tiger Crossing The Prim Maker Join date: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 1,560	11-10-2003 10:34 Or give them money. _____________________ ~ Tiger Crossing ~ (Nonsanity)

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