I feel Instant Message mode can be far too demanding. So to remedy this, I suggest that all instant messages should be sent directly to a resident's email address.
Or better yet, just remove the mode completely and let residents decide for themselves on how they wish to keep in touch. Whether it be through email or whatever.
A good idea?
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Doing Something
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03-20-2007 05:27
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Remove Instant Message mode?
03-20-2007 05:28
I feel Instant Message mode can be far too demanding. So to remedy this, I suggest that all instant messages should be sent directly to a resident's email address.
Or better yet, just remove the mode completely and let residents decide for themselves on how they wish to keep in touch. Whether it be through email or whatever. A good idea? |
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Sage Jacobus
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03-20-2007 05:48
Sending straight to email would kind of remove the "instant" part. So, I don't know that I agree that that would be a good idea.
I dothink that allowing people to opt in or out of receiving IMs -- particularly group IMs -- would be good, particularly if you could do it on a group by group basis. |
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03-20-2007 05:59
I dothink that allowing people to opt in or out of receiving IMs -- particularly group IMs -- would be good, particularly if you could do it on a group by group basis. A suggestion true to your name!!! Excellent! How I wish I could stop these group notices without ditching the group tag  Doing away completely with IM though I'm against. I need to keep in comms with in-world friends even if they are twenty sims away. |
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03-20-2007 06:02
Feature Suggestions.
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Gaybot Foxley
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03-20-2007 06:07
Group IMs = Please give me a feature to disable them for certain groups at certain times.
Friend/General IMs = Please let me keep them. It's my in world telepathy. |
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Colette Meiji
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03-20-2007 06:09
Although I suspect this original IDea might be a joke -
Ill go ahead and say I do not like the idea of removing IMs. |
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03-20-2007 06:12
Doing away completely with IM though I'm against. I need to keep in comms with in-world friends even if they are twenty sims away. You'll still be able to reply instantly. The only difference is that your friends wont be expecting an instant reply. Expectations and is what leads to frustration with Instant Message mode. Everybody knows that when an instant message arrives, there's a person on the other end expecting an instant reply. Perhaps we just need to change the name of Instant Message mode? How about 'Delayed Message' mode?. Yeah! that should do it! |
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03-20-2007 06:13
Feature Suggestions. I did! |
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Colette Meiji
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03-20-2007 06:15
You'll still be able to reply instantly. The only difference is that your friends wont be expecting an instant reply. Expectations and is what leads to frustration with Instant Message mode. Everybody knows that when an instant message arrives, there's a person on the other end expecting an instant reply. Perhaps we just need to change the name of Instant Message mode? How about 'Delayed Message' mode?. Yeah! that should do it! hmmmm You do have a point about this SL/online cultural expectation about people feeling you should always be immediately / constantly availble for talking |
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03-20-2007 06:19
hmmmm You do have a point about this SL/online cultural expectation about people feeling you should always be immediately / constantly availble for talking <puts hand up sheepishly> .. umm .. but I am.  |
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03-20-2007 06:26
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03-20-2007 06:29
Then just call it "Private Message" if tou need to take "Instatnt" so literally. Maybe it's me, but when I Message someone, I am aware that they are probabaly doing something in world and don't necessarily expect an immediate reply.
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03-20-2007 06:30
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03-20-2007 06:31
It's really analogous to the telephone, isn't it -- if we are talking to a physically-present friend, and the telephone rings, how many of us will let the phone go to voice mail, and how many say to the friend: "Just a sec while I answer this"? The telephone has imposed itself as higher-priority, somehow, than the already-occurring conversation.
Just so with IMs. The group notices, especially, are intrusive and distracting; I wish that one could opt to receive them, but *silently*, perhaps collected in a folder for later perusal. Even individual IMs could perhaps be filtered, so that there would no longer be necessary to try to carry on umpteen conversations at once....if one could have a temporary "busy signal" broadcast while one carries on one IM conversation at a time? Could this be accomplished using some sort of gadget, a HUD type thing? |
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03-20-2007 06:32
Is it really that hard to minimize the IM window when waiting for a reply and go do something else?
I don't expect anything to be instant with all the lag I'm getting lately. Sometimes it takes 2 minutes for chat to appear  As to the original post, there should be an option. You can never have too many options, and I think being able to ignore certain messages might even reduce load on the servers. Less DB records returned when sending a group IM and less bandwidth use (yes it's a tiny amount, but it adds up). |
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03-20-2007 06:38
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03-20-2007 06:41
..., I am aware that they are probabaly doing something in world ... Yep. I'm always Doing Something in-world too! What about the people who message you and expect an instant reply?. You may not expect an instant reply. But some people do. You know you're going to have to reply before you log out (or crash out) of SL or the instant messages will be lost. So you might as well reply instantly, so you can forget about it and get back to building. Instant Message mode is at the root of all the privacy issues in SL. When people say that they would like privacy in SL. What they're really asking for is the ability to have some time to themselves, to build or to chat 1 to 1 with friends. |
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Strife Onizuka
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03-20-2007 06:44
Some way to let people know you are busy at the moment with another IM, etc would be a great feature. Maybe a toggle button for each IM which indicates to the other people you are busy at the moment. A half way between being away and not away.
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03-20-2007 06:46
You know you're going to have to reply before you log out (or crash out) of SL or the instant messages will be lost. If you turn on IM logging you can read them when ever you want. I responded to one last night from January (having ignored it for 2 months). _____________________
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03-20-2007 06:51
It's really analogous to the telephone, isn't it? Totally! I hate cell phones and Instant Message mode is basically an SL version of a cell phone. So much so, that sometimes if I'm having a conversation with somebody, and their cell phone rings and they answer it. I just walk off and go chat with somebody else. It's exactly the same in SL. If I sense somebody is in Instant Message mode while chatting with me, then I just make an excuse to leave. I feel like I'm a burden when I sense somebody is trying their hardest to have several conversations at once. SL is a 3D world where we're all supposed to immerse ourselves. So what the hell are we all doing chatting in a 2D chat window to a list of friends? Why don't we all just stick to MSN or yahoo? |
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03-20-2007 06:58
I put up my busy flag, or uncheck my friends can see me online options.Just like my phone..I screen all my calls with my answering machine. But if you want an option to disable IM's , fine by me.But I would like a choice. The current system works for me.
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03-20-2007 06:58
Some way to let people know you are busy at the moment with another IM, etc would be a great feature. Maybe a toggle button for each IM which indicates to the other people you are busy at the moment. A half way between being away and not away. I've considered a busy mode. Yet it became clear to me that part of the problem is that some people don't want to have to chat to certain people/kids. But they also don't want the drama of having to mute them or tell them to piss off. Instant Message mode tends to be a little too intrusive. So it's not so easy to just ignore people or reply to people when you're feeling a little more patient. |
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03-20-2007 07:00
I put up my busy flag, or uncheck my friends can see me online options.Just like my phone..I screen all my calls with my answering machine. But if you want an option to disable IM's , fine by me.But I would like a choice. The current system works for me. Yeah. I was probably too extreme in suggesting that it be removed. I should've suggested a disable feature.  |
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Gaybot Foxley
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03-20-2007 07:27
Strife, if you are still watching, what is that character by your name? I have been wondering for a while. Is it from a Japanese cartoon? What's his name?
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