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Better Friends List Management

Morse Dillon
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Join date: 11 Dec 2003
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05-03-2005 10:40
This is so straightforward, I'm really curious as to why SL has made it all the way to version 1.6 and not addressed this in a proper fashion.

We have essentially three major ways to see which of our friends are online:

1) "Friends" toolbar button
2) Calling Card category in inventory
3) "Friends" drop-down in Map.

Perhaps there are others that I am forgetting, but hopefully I've covered them all.

Now of these methods, there are a few items of note that are inconsistent or need to be improved upon:

1) Filtering. Currently, there's no easy way to get a list of JUST those friends that are online (other than, ironically, the SL website). SL really needs something equivalent to the "Hide Offline Buddies" option found in many IM clients. Additionally, categorization of Friends *outside* the Calling Card portion of inventory is next-to-worthless.

2) Recent changes to the way calling cards are treated (i.e. showing their permissions in the inventory list) make them hard to use for online status. This is because many (or perhaps most) users keep the inventory list somewhat narrow, which cuts off the ";(online)" shown at the end of the calling card name. Also, while it IS possible to categorize calling cards, these categories should carry over to the other portions of the UI that deal with Friends, such as the Friends toolbar list (and possibly the map). Additionally, users really ought to be able to select "Profile" from the context menu here. I would even go so far as to replace the "Properties" option with this, because there's not much a user can do with the properties of a calling card object anyway, and it is confusing to new users that expect to see something Profile-like pop up.

3) Map. The ability to see *where* a Friend is located is very useful, but unfortunately there's no easy or intuitive way to get there. I myself use two methods - one is pulling up the map and selecting their name from the drop-down, and the other is Calling Card -> Properties -> Profile -> Map (or with the introduction of 1.6, Friends -> Profile -> Map). The first method isn't intuitive for new users (they would really expect to see this as an option in the Friends list on the toolbar) and the second is too tedious. This should be a top-level option along with other actions such as IM, Pay, etc.

4) Presence. Right now, it's not at all obvious how to go into busy mode, and this is actually seperate from the rest of the Friends list. This ought to be part of the Friends UI, and it would be nice to see this expanded upon to include more presence options.

Overall, I'd like to see a good overhaul of how the UI treats Friends. If I were LL, I would look to one of the better conventional IM clients (Trillian, perhaps?) for ways to handle list management, presence, notification, and actions. Why re-invent this part of the wheel when a proven model already exists that users are familiar with??? Because *socializing is such a huge part of SL and a selling point for LL*, I believe that features enabling you to keep in touch with friends, business associates, etc. should be #1 on the priority list.

-N
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King Morse Dillon
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05-04-2005 06:10
This is a good idea, but I think in addition to Trillian, GAIM should also be looked at :D
Morse Dillon
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05-04-2005 16:30
Actually, one feature that is in GAIM, Trillian, and most other IM clients is direct file transfer. This would add a whole other dimension to SL, in my opinion. It would be incredibly convenient to send other people files without resorting to a standalone IM system, e-mail, or the like.
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Morse Dillon
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05-10-2005 11:35
*bump* nobody has any comment? :D
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Margaret Mfume
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05-10-2005 11:53
I agree. You've got it covered pretty well. I find myself using IM more than friend because the IM box sorts for who is online and I have to scroll down the Friends list to check. I'd definitely would appreciate being able to categorize and prioritize the list.
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05-10-2005 12:06
From: Morse Dillon
*bump* nobody has any comment? :D

<Looks at your chosen forum "title"> Who voted you for "king of second life" then, eh? I thought this was an autonomous collective... ...just cause some watery tart chucks you a sword is no basis for a system of government... etc etc.
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Morse Dillon
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Join date: 11 Dec 2003
Posts: 142
05-10-2005 12:58
From: Escort DeFarge
<Looks at your chosen forum "title"> Who voted you for "king of second life" then, eh? I thought this was an autonomous collective... ...just cause some watery tart chucks you a sword is no basis for a system of government... etc etc.


;-)

I've not found the original forum thread whereby I declared my Kingship, but here's another from when I took a brief sabbatical from SL, welcoming me back as King:

/120/cb/28437/1.html

Escort - the long and short of it is, I'm King of SL...but don't exert gobs of power over the people here. I wander 'round, gracing people with their King's presence, resolving the occasional dispute, and helping the n00bs :)

Don't take life too seriously - I don't :p
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