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Fight The 25 Group Limit Plz Help Us

gold Rang
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Join date: 2 Mar 2007
Posts: 10
12-29-2007 13:42
HEY GUYS THANKYOU FOR YOUR REPLYS, ON THE LAST POST.

MAYBE I DIDNT SAY IT RIGHT, BUT WHEN YOU ARE A POWER USER, ON SL, YOU NEED MORE THAN 25 GROUPS.

MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE OPTIONS THAT ENABLE BANNING OF CHAT AND NOTICES.

FOR INSTANCE, CLUBBERS GUIDE FILLED MY EMAIL WITH 685 NOTICES IN ONE DAY.

LET ME TELL YOU THAT WAS A TAD ANNOYING TRYING TO DELETE ALL THEM AND NOT DELETING ANY OF THE OTHER 140 I GET PER DAY, LOL

BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGIN, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT. AND ALL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.
EVEN IF YOU HAD TO BE A PREMIUM MEMBER TO RECIVE 50-100 GROUPS AS A LIMIT, THEN THIS WOULD BENIFIT THOSE WHO FELT THEY NEEDED IT.


IF YOU WISH TO JOIN THE PROTEST YOU CAN DO SO BY SEARCHING GROUPS FOR

WE WANT MORE THAN STD GROUPS

OR

VISIT THE ACID ARENA, @ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Guillarme/80/224/60

YES MY IDEA DOES INCLUDE JOINING A GROUP TO HELP PROTEST, BUT THATS THE IDEA, WE BASICLY LIVE IN WORLD, AND WE NEED A VOICE IN WORLD. NOT EXTERNAL RESOURCES, WE CAN ALL ADD FRIENDS TO THIS GROUP. AND THERE IS A REAL EASY WAY TO DO SO....

AS FOLLOWS

PLEASE REMEMBER TO INVITE YOUR FRIENDS TO THE GROUP.

THE EASY WAY TO DO SO IS AS FOLLOWS.

GOTO FRIENDS LIST> ADD FRIEND>OPEN PEOPLE CHOOSER>

IN THE NEXT WINDOW YOU SEE YOUR CALLING CARDS AT THE BOTTON OF THE NEXT WINDOW.

SELECT THE TOP ONE.

HOLD SHIFT
SCROLL TO BOTTOM WITH SHIFT STILL HELD.
SELECT THE BOTTOM CALLING CARD.

THIS SHOULD SELECT YOUR WHOLE LIST.

THEN PRESS SELECT.
NOW THEY SHOULD BE ADDED TO YOUR FIRST WINDOW.
PRESS SEND.


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I THINK IF WE ALL HELP IN THIS MATTER THEN WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IT WAS SAID BY LL THEM SELVES A WORLD CREATED AND IMAGENED BY ITS RESIDENTS, SO HERE I AM TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND ASK YOU TO HELP DO THE SAME.

THANKYOU FOR READING, AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GREAT CHRISTMAS AND HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR TOO.


gold Rang

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SL DJ TOURNAMENTS - ALSO POSTED IN THE FORUMS,
WEBSITE
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Draco18s Majestic
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Join date: 19 Sep 2005
Posts: 2,744
12-29-2007 16:33
*Points to the Caps Lock key*
Lower case works just as well, you know. Shouting doesn't get more people to hear you here.
Willi Willunga
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Join date: 26 May 2007
Posts: 20
12-29-2007 18:55
And it doesn't help either to open another thread with the same topic.
Tegg Bode
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Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
12-30-2007 00:30
From: gold Rang
HEY GUYS THANKYOU FOR YOUR REPLYS, ON THE LAST POST.

MAYBE I DIDNT SAY IT RIGHT, BUT WHEN YOU ARE A POWER USER, ON SL, YOU NEED MORE THAN 25 GROUPS.

MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE OPTIONS THAT ENABLE BANNING OF CHAT AND NOTICES.

FOR INSTANCE, CLUBBERS GUIDE FILLED MY EMAIL WITH 685 NOTICES IN ONE DAY.

LET ME TELL YOU THAT WAS A TAD ANNOYING TRYING TO DELETE ALL THEM AND NOT DELETING ANY OF THE OTHER 140 I GET PER DAY, LOL

BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGIN, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT. AND ALL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.
EVEN IF YOU HAD TO BE A PREMIUM MEMBER TO RECIVE 50-100 GROUPS AS A LIMIT, THEN THIS WOULD BENIFIT THOSE WHO FELT THEY NEEDED IT.


IF YOU WISH TO JOIN THE PROTEST YOU CAN DO SO BY SEARCHING GROUPS FOR

WE WANT MORE THAN STD GROUPS

OR

VISIT THE ACID ARENA, @ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Guillarme/80/224/60

YES MY IDEA DOES INCLUDE JOINING A GROUP TO HELP PROTEST, BUT THATS THE IDEA, WE BASICLY LIVE IN WORLD, AND WE NEED A VOICE IN WORLD. NOT EXTERNAL RESOURCES, WE CAN ALL ADD FRIENDS TO THIS GROUP. AND THERE IS A REAL EASY WAY TO DO SO....

AS FOLLOWS

PLEASE REMEMBER TO INVITE YOUR FRIENDS TO THE GROUP.

THE EASY WAY TO DO SO IS AS FOLLOWS.

GOTO FRIENDS LIST> ADD FRIEND>OPEN PEOPLE CHOOSER>

IN THE NEXT WINDOW YOU SEE YOUR CALLING CARDS AT THE BOTTON OF THE NEXT WINDOW.

SELECT THE TOP ONE.

HOLD SHIFT
SCROLL TO BOTTOM WITH SHIFT STILL HELD.
SELECT THE BOTTOM CALLING CARD.

THIS SHOULD SELECT YOUR WHOLE LIST.

THEN PRESS SELECT.
NOW THEY SHOULD BE ADDED TO YOUR FIRST WINDOW.
PRESS SEND.


-------------------------------


I THINK IF WE ALL HELP IN THIS MATTER THEN WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IT WAS SAID BY LL THEM SELVES A WORLD CREATED AND IMAGENED BY ITS RESIDENTS, SO HERE I AM TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND ASK YOU TO HELP DO THE SAME.

THANKYOU FOR READING, AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GREAT CHRISTMAS AND HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR TOO.


gold Rang

DONT FORGET TO CHECK OUT THE
SL DJ TOURNAMENTS - ALSO POSTED IN THE FORUMS,
WEBSITE
HTTP://WWW.SLDJ.CJB.NET


REPEATED DUE TO UPPERCASE SHOUTING OBVIOUSLY MEANS IT"S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO CONTINUE USING UPPER CASE
Hmm sorry can't see a JIRA link in there, so can't help you, maybe it's to small to be seen in amounst all the caps?
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Fluf Fredriksson
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12-30-2007 02:12
And.
As has been explained in the lower case JIRA entry.
It is not as simple as LL increasing the limit and adding a server. Permissions checks have to be made server side against all the groups you belong to many times as you move and operate in SL. Voting for a simple increase is therefore like voting to increase lag.
And despite the large voting numbers, an internal check found "surprisingly few people" using up all 25 group slots.

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Tegg Bode
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Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
12-30-2007 02:17
From: Fluf Fredriksson
And.
As has been explained in the lower case JIRA entry.
It is not as simple as LL increasing the limit and adding a server. Permissions checks have to be made server side against all the groups you belong to many times as you move and operate in SL. Voting for a simple increase is therefore like voting to increase lag.
And despite the large voting numbers, an internal check found "surprisingly few people" using up all 25 group slots.
"Windmill in sight ... tilting! Huzah!"

True, maybe an increase to only 30 or 40, this would ony creat lag for those that used them all I guess, I usually delete a group if a goup is important enough to add, and usually delete the ones thta chat all the time anyway or "Can you TP me?" Which sometimes I do for the person dropping them in the ocean or where ever I am 600m up in my plane :)
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Usagi Musashi
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12-30-2007 02:38
From: Fluf Fredriksson
And.
As has been explained in the lower case JIRA entry.
It is not as simple as LL increasing the limit and adding a server. Permissions checks have to be made server side against all the groups you belong to many times as you move and operate in SL. Voting for a simple increase is therefore like voting to increase lag.
And despite the large voting numbers, an internal check found "surprisingly few people" using up all 25 group slots.

"Windmill in sight ... tilting! Huzah!"


can you image the stress with all those extra groups? I love to see them increase i said in the past we should have more. But not to increaseless fps .its not worth it.
Fluf Fredriksson
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12-30-2007 05:42
From: Tegg Bode
True, maybe an increase to only 30 or 40, this would ony creat lag for those that used them all I guess

Um nope. Server side checks means more processing time in that sim. So being in a sim with people with over 25 groups would mean extra lag for all.
There is a proposal for additional IM / messaging groups only, where you would have no land or building permissions to check. I'm not clued up enough to know how much of an additional strain this would place server side. But it's not high on my list of priorities compared to random crashes etc... And besides, the "we want more groups" people seem to keep insisting they want more full permission groups, therefore shooting themselves in the foot somewhat.
Kitty Barnett
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12-30-2007 10:29
From: Fluf Fredriksson
And despite the large voting numbers, an internal check found "surprisingly few people" using up all 25 group slots.
I wouldn't be surprised if according to that check the average resident is in 0 groups :p.

Only 1 in 10 residents actually sticks around for any amount of time, so we have 9 million accounts with few, if any. If all of the remaining 1 million used all of their groups, you'd still only get 2.5 groups/resident.

*still thinks extra groups would make a great "premium perk" and would help keep the performance hit limited*
Bee Mizser
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Join date: 22 Apr 2007
Posts: 329
12-30-2007 13:56
Certainly more than 25 groups would be useful.

Any resident with shops in a number of malls will have a large number of groups.

Dani for example, when she sets up a new store normally has to leave a group to join a new one.