Control of group-owned land

I love the deeding land to the group feature. But i dont like finding out that original owners and individual members have no more control of the land they deeded.

I would like the option to give the original owner basic rights on their own land. They should still be able to delete objects off their own land, rez plants, take back the land if they choose, stuff like that.

I thought original owners would retain controls, and in addition officers would also have control as well. Instead officers have all the power and the original owner none. It's a little too totalitarian.

Yes, I was somewhat surprised at that.

As I see it, the big reason for this feature was to share the tax burden on themes and other large builds.

I want to be able to un-deed my land (with the associated loss in tax sharing), change its name, edit the access/ban list, etc. I think I have to be an officer to do it, but that doesn't seem right. I still had to pay for the land and shoulder the tax burden all this time for the good of the group. This IS totalitarian, if I should wish to leave the group I'd have to beg the officer(s) for my money back. That shouldn't be the way it is.

If anything, *I* should be the one to decide whether or not I cede 100% of the control over my land to the officers. I do not want to see a situation where someone contributes what I have (and more in some cases) to a big project, only to have to worry about the possibility of being treated like a peon after a bum land transfer.

And that is significant. I held a 16th of a sim for a very long period of time, then finally released it to someone else in the group and bought another once I was down at -$1000. Many others have done that sort of thing, it seems harsh to have the system set up this way.

Another problem with the new system is recalling. What if some officer has invested in a ton of land and deeds it, then falls out of favor and gets recalled? They get, as they say, "assed out" of that huge pile of money they spent. Bad deal.

I am thankful for this new system... it's just that it has a thing or two that I (and probably many others) will not agree with.

Yes, the original owner does need to retain control of sorts and have some sort of back door for an opt out in case things dont work out. Some kind of "undo".

If not implemented this is certianly open for scamming noobs.

Simular issue, I purchased 1/16th of a sim for my group, Im leaving that group and deeded it to them figuring i could sell it later (to recoup my funds) and then they could re-purchase it with their new members.

What i found out was that once I deeded it the original funds used to purchase the land were also deeded. If the deeded land is released the funds used to purchase the land go first to pay taxes on that land and any other deeded land and THEN get divided up and given to all current members of the group.

I think until a "group bank" system is in place the original owner of the land should hold rights to the land or at least its purchase price. And we definatly need an Undo of some type even if its within X time.

OMG, you're kiddiing me! If land is released it goes to the group, not the owner? Whoa, that's bad. We need an undeed option. Like Misnomer said, this is perfect for scamming and all kinds of unpleasant power trips.

Give the original owner some rights over land, please.

Unless this is fixed, wont a group bank have the same issues then? The officers would control the cash and any member would have a possibily to be scammed?

Hmm.. not cool.

I think as long as it is made clear that joining a group entangles you with that goups finances somewhat, and that deeding land means giving it to the group (it isn't right now), it's not so bad. This feature works the way I thought it was going to.

hmm. I wouldnt say "somewhat". I'm not worried about seasoned players. Most seasoned players would have an idea of what they were getting into and accept the risks involved.

Also say a group has one officer and they leave the game? What (if any) safeguards are there for the rest of the members? What if one or more officers just decided to quit a group and the members wanted to carry on? The way it is now, the officer(s) could take the money and run, leaving members in the lurch. I dunno.

Although I don't see this as an issue for myself, I do see it as an issue that will end up burning people if not altered.